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300 wsm. Because it hangs with the 300 win mag with less powder. And, is the ballistic twin to the 300 H&H. That puts it in pretty good company.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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My 300 JARRETT,pushes 165gr NBT'S AVERAGE 3508FPS. OMG!!!!
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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Since the only 300's I own are of the H&H variety, that gets my vote...
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I like the 300 RUM and the 300 Win Mag the best, but it's hard not to like a 300 magnum of any flavor.
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I have several 300's. 30-338, 300 WSM 300 Win, 300 Wby., 300 Rum, and 30-378 Wby. I use the 300 Wby most of the time. My oldest son carries the 30-338 and my youngest son is partial to the 300 Rum.
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Why are all the good-looking rifles Winchesters??? Its been that way since the beginning of time.
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Trump Won!
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Now that's some funny chit. But it's true...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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.300 H&H. 200grn Partitions at .8 MOA all day long.
It is not enough to fight for natural land and the west; it is even more important to enjoy it. While you can. While it's still there. So get out there and hunt and fish and mess around with your friends...
- Edward Abbey
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You forgot to tell us, that you shot him from a cross that canyon in the background.
Really, that's a great bull.
Congratulations.
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My favorite .300 Mag is the ones you guys own. Let us keep it that way. I prefer .30 plain. Now that I think of it, the only mags I own are a .44 and a WMR. They were misnamed at birth I think.
Don't hate me for being such a dinosaur.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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I'v never been a fan of any .300 Magnum. To me, they are a cassic "tweener"...niether fish nor fowl. If I feel the need for more rifle than a .30-06, I generally bypass the .300's and go straight to .338.
With that said, the 300's make fine all-around rifles for North American game....just no better than a .30-06 in my opinion. If I were to choose any .300 it would likely be an H&H in a classic style safari rifle, but the H&H actually offers almost nothing balistically over the '06. For any significant gain ballistically you need at least a .300 Weatherby
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I'v never been a fan of any .300 Magnum. To me, they are a cassic "tweener"...niether fish nor fowl. To me, the 30-06 is the "tweener" - stuck in between the 308 Win and the 300 magnums. I still like the '06 and have a couple, but I'm more likely to grab a 308 or a 300 WSM.
Some shooting knowledge: Don't stand in front of the muzzle. Some hunting knowledge: Too much noise ruins the hunt.
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Back a few years ago (about 30 ) I had a 300 Win Mag, a 300 Weatherby, and a 300 H&H, all at the same time and all M70 Winchesters. The 300 Win and Weatherby were custom and the H&H was a stock pre 64 M70. I was in my 300 magnum phase learning my way around these cartridges, and I took the Weatherby and Winchester hunting quite a bit. I loaded a bunch of bullets but mostly 180's in all three. The fastest of the three was the Weatherby which averaged about 3150 from a 24" barrel; the 300 H&H did 3090,and the Winchester was sort of stuck somewhere in the middle of those two. The results sort of surprised me because I had read from various sources that the H&H was no better than the 30/06 ballistically, and the 300 Weatherby was the barn burner high velocity king of the 300 magnum crowd. But I had never seen a 30/06 do any better than 2750-2800 fps with sane loads. The H&H was close to 300 fps better,and fell behind the Weatherby by a whole 60-70 fps (!) Later on I would learn that, if you outfitted the Weatherby with a 26" barrel and the right powder you would get over 3200 fps with a 180 gr bullet.But I chronographed Weatherby factory ammo with the 180 and it did 3190....not bad,and about 100 fps faster than the H&H with good handloads.......again this ain't what I had read. I also learned that, if I loaded the 300 Win Mag in a H&H length action and OAL to 3.5+", it would rival the Weatherby for velocity...and in a 24" barrel, so seemed more efficient,I settled for 3150 or so with a 180 gr bullet and used that load for a lot of hunting.Powder charges were 8-10 gr less than the Weatherby,depending on the powder. Had a bunch of other rifles (factory and custom)chambered for all three cartridges and results were always much the same. I concluded a few things....first, my old mentor, JOC, was right about a lot of stuff but dead wrong about the H&H vs the 30/06...the old Holland round stomps it with good handloads,even if the factory stuff is nothing to write home about....but that can be said of the 30/06,too with some factory ammo. Second, while it's good with anything the "best shot" for the 300 Weatherby was with a 26" barrel, and a 200 gr bullet at close to 3100 fps. This is where the bigger case showed some superiority over the smaller one's. I owned a 300 RUM when it came out,and have sat and watched load development in rifles belonging to friends;shot their rifles quite a bit. It's easily the fastest but I could not fall in love with burning 90+ gr of powder and torching it all off in an 8 pound mountain weight rifle.I'll leave that to others. I hunted with the H&H, Winchester, and Weatherby, killed a bunch of elk and other animals with the Winchester and Weatherby from hard off the muzzle to 400-500 yards.I found all three to have more punch on heavier animals like elk on the far side of a canyon than a 30/06, which is no toy,but isn't a 30 cal magnum either. I sort of learned that the velocity differences between the first three cartridges were not really the quantum leaps I had been led to expect, but more like baby steps between all three. What I could do with one I could do with the others,at the range and on game. So these days when someone asks about "which 300 magnum?" I shrug because once you start a 180 gr bullet at around 3100+- fps it doesn't matter;and at least with these three cartridges there's only 100-150 fps that separates them. I never used the real heavy match bullets in the 300's but maybe the differences will matter more with those bullets.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Ive always loved the way the browning 78 rifles looked, I wanted one chambered in 300 wby, but could never find one, so, I had a browning 78 re-chambered from 30/06 to 300wby added a 7mm rem extractor, and added a 3x9x leopold scope , and found i had a really nice elk combo that threw 190 hornadys into tight groups velocities were not spectacular, at about 3000fps but 1/2" 3 shot groups at 100 yards off the bench were common
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340mag, I'm DROOLING over that Browning 78! Beautiful rifle!
God Bless America!
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I really like my Remington model 700 XCR in 300 RUM shooting 180 Accubonds
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It was fun reading my way through this thread. I have worked my way through 5 different versions of .300 magnums over the years. I came back to the .300 Win Mag earlier this year, and it is the only one that I plan to keep in the safe from now on. It is accurate with bullets from 165/168 grains up through 200 grains, and I shoot it well. Although my primary elk rifle is a Ruger No. 1-S in 9.3x74R, the .300 WM will go to elk camp with me every year. No doubt we will take an elk or two together before we both retire.
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I ain't never had a .300 mag, but if I did, I'd be a .300 H&H.
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308 Norma for me. Have had 2, still have one.
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