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Campfire 'Bwana
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N/NW out of Tulsa about 80/90 miles IIRC, google them up and check out their 'gun vault' section, DROOLLLL...........................
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Campfire Kahuna
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"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Yo Welcome.
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Any case that propels .458 caliber bullets is fine with me.
When truth is ignored, it does not change an untruth from remaining a lie.
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Any case that propels .458 caliber bullets is fine with me. What, even the terribly designed, poorly thought out and woefully underpowered Win Mag case???? ;-)
You'll probably never NEED a gun. In fact I hope you never do. BUT IF you do, you will probably need it worse than anything you've ever needed before in your life...
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Campfire 'Bwana
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My favorite BB is my 500 Nitro double, I do agree with your .416 assessment, my 416 Taylor heaving a 400 gr bullet 2350 fps is a lot of performance without a lot of fuss in the recoil and flash department. I would hazard a guess that 400 gr Woodleigh softs followed by any needed Woodleigh solids of the same weight would handily dispatch ANY game animal on earth. Just substitute 450NE on the above quote and good to go!
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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Any case that propels .458 caliber bullets is fine with me.
Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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I'll be contrary and say a .475 Turnbull, just 'coz: But I did run across a .450 Nitro #1 the other day, which is pretty interesting. Certainly a wider variety of bullets than the .475.
"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."
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Campfire Tracker
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Campfire Tracker
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ET, the case to the right is more my style :-)
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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The ones on the left will kill anything you point it at. The one on the right is great for bunkers and APC's though.
Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!
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Campfire Tracker
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Any case that propels .458 caliber bullets is fine with me. What, even the terribly designed, poorly thought out and woefully underpowered Win Mag case???? ;-) Mel The .458.is officially in +P mode these days with better bullets and powders available. Besides, how can anyone not like a .458 without automatically slandering the .45/70, albiet, perhaps unintentionally? John
When truth is ignored, it does not change an untruth from remaining a lie.
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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I'm down to my 500 jefferey which is still a project rifle, one of these days...
If I was to get serious about dangerous game hunting I'd go with a 416 remington. As much as I enjoyed my two 458 lotts, there is just a recoil threshold with 500 gr bullets at 2100+ fps where you simply can't ignore the recoil and it takes significant concentration before squeezing off shots. For a hunting rifle I want something I can get into any field position and ignore recoil, and that is what the 416 offers that the 458 and larger rifles don't.
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Campfire Regular
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500 Jeffery, more than enough power, just right amount of recoil ..
Regards,
Chuck
"There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit"
Ghost And The Darkness
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Currently, a Shiloh 1874 Saddle Rifle - 45/70 with 26" barrel. Over the years, I've had a total of 4 Marlin 1859SS's, 1 T/C Contender, A Browning 1885, and a C. Sharps 1875..................all in .45/70. Granted, the .45-70 isn't the best choice for a big bore rifle for dangerous game, but it does get the job done if used in its range.
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I want a 458 but I know I'll never use the damn thing on anything. Mate, I live in Melbourne and I've got one!!!!
You'll probably never NEED a gun. In fact I hope you never do. BUT IF you do, you will probably need it worse than anything you've ever needed before in your life...
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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Nothing like a 50 Sharps. Perfect for rabbits, nothing but head shots...
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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You still have that Sharps??? Had a chance to see Elmer's, but darn camera wouldn't work.. Should have just looked.. But I thought next time... You know how that went!!
Molon Labe
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Campfire Tracker
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I want a 458 but I know I'll never use the damn thing on anything. Mate, I live in Melbourne and I've got one!!!! These blokes won't know that when you live in Melbun, the sambar are just over the back fence.
When truth is ignored, it does not change an untruth from remaining a lie.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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The Whitworth 416 rem is relatively light and fast handling, accurate and will flat out get the job done with proper shot placement. After all, shot placement is key with all cartridges
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Campfire Outfitter
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I want a 458 but I know I'll never use the damn thing on anything. A buddy loaned me his push feed Model 70 for a morning. It will shoot clean through a digger squirrel. Tom
Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip.
Here be dragons ...
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