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My creedmoor rounds with a 140 vld shoot best at 2.89" coal. It's on a tac 30 aw so it's ok there but my rem actions mag boxes only allow out to 2.83". It was chambered with the standard creedmoor reamer which has .199" freebore which is a lot. You can get a creedmoor reamer with less freebore but people have them had pressure issues with factory ammo. The Lapua is a shorter case and allows you to seat things out a bit and still be under 2.83".
That's the irony of the creedmoor. They touted it as a great short action round and then had to give it so much freebore that you can't kiss with a vld and fit in a rem short action. I still think the creedmoor is a great round but the Lapua fits a short mag box better and leaves you more room to chase.
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Congrats - enjoy those steaks. My 16 yr old son and I have been tearing up the jerky so far. Alan
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I love my creedmoor but that Lapua just fits a rem mag box better.
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Please elaborate a little more on this. Thanks, David Don't want to talk for BB but let me chime in. Take a standard 2.820" long magazine. Some may vary in length, but, hopefully, you get my meaning. The 260 Rem case is 2.035" long with a standard 2.8" seated bullet OAL per Wikipedia. The 6.5 Creedmoor case is 1.920" long with a standard 2.820" seated bullet OAL per Wikipedia. The 6.5x47 case is 1.843" long with a standard 1.736" seated OAL, per Lapua. When seated to the standard OAL, the shorter cartridges are going to be able to "chase" the lands as the throat wears out through out the life of the barrel. In a longer cartridge, such as the 260 Rem, one might not be able to chase the lands since the standard OAL is already at the max for the magazine anyway. My sniper grade 6.5x47 with 2200+ rounds, when using the Berger 140 Hybrid seated at .015" off the lands, where it likes to be, is at 2.85"; beyond the standard length for most magazine any way. Fortuneately, the AI mag length accommodates this. Help much? Alan
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Ha! Hadn't realized Bb had posted before I came back, hour later to post. Good post/explanation by the way.
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My creedmoor rounds with a 140 vld shoot best at 2.89" coal. It's on a tac 30 aw so it's ok there but my rem actions mag boxes only allow out to 2.83". It was chambered with the standard creedmoor reamer which has .199" freebore which is a lot. You can get a creedmoor reamer with less freebore but people have them had pressure issues with factory ammo. The Lapua is a shorter case and allows you to seat things out a bit and still be under 2.83".
That's the irony of the creedmoor. They touted it as a great short action round and then had to give it so much freebore that you can't kiss with a vld and fit in a rem short action. I still think the creedmoor is a great round but the Lapua fits a short mag box better and leaves you more room to chase.
Bb I've owned a couple Creedmoors and still have one. Although they both shot well jammed (130VLD), they also shot well with some jump --- lots of jump actually. If building again, I'd have no qualms using Kiff's reamer with less freebore. I don't shoot factory ammo anyway. The bullet is still is a nice place in the case when loaded to typical 700 mag confines. Im not knocking the 6.5x47. I may do one in the future.
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My creedmoor rounds with a 140 vld shoot best at 2.89" coal. It's on a tac 30 aw so it's ok there but my rem actions mag boxes only allow out to 2.83". It was chambered with the standard creedmoor reamer which has .199" freebore which is a lot. You can get a creedmoor reamer with less freebore but people have them had pressure issues with factory ammo. The Lapua is a shorter case and allows you to seat things out a bit and still be under 2.83".
That's the irony of the creedmoor. They touted it as a great short action round and then had to give it so much freebore that you can't kiss with a vld and fit in a rem short action. I still think the creedmoor is a great round but the Lapua fits a short mag box better and leaves you more room to chase.
Bb I've owned a couple Creedmoors and still have one. Although they both shot well jammed (130VLD), they also shot well with some jump --- lots of jump actually. If building again, I'd have no qualms using Kiff's reamer with less freebore. I don't shoot factory ammo anyway. The bullet is still is a nice place in the case when loaded to typical 700 mag confines. Im not knocking the 6.5x47. I may do one in the future. I have a Creedmoor that almost seems indifferent to jump (or much of anything else).... But I understand the points that were made. David
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As do I...and I know a little about your Creedmoor(grin). I shoulda kept it!
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Great shot and gear you have there. You did well.
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Love jerky, never tried elk jerky. Bet it's fabulous. Re: 6.5's - never met one I disliked. Had TCU, 6.5-308 Win (pre-260), 260's, Swedes, and a Creedmoor. Running a 47 currently
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Alan, Great story, great shooting. Enjoyed reading . Chuck
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