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I was thinking of moving my Victory 1.5-6 x 42 over to my 308 Montana, I have to buy new Talley one piece 30mm rings but wondered if this is going to screw the balance up on the rifle, I had a cheap LW Minox on it but am finally giving up on that scope, biggest concerns are balance and low light performance, the Low Light performance is impressive with the victory HT but the thing is heavy. I use it mostly at 3X all the time, I would consider a fixed 4x FX2 Leupold but don't know if it would meet my needs, I watched a little 25 yard doe thru a Conquest 2.5-8 x 32 the other night at sunset plus 20 and it was getting dark in the scope not much detail could be seen in it, sure could have killed it but the head detail was not clear enough for me. The 6 x 42 Leup would work in the low light arena but might be more challenging to use close range wise. The VX-6 2-12x42 is a consideration but would need to buy it and I think they are heavy as well. Anyone here mounted a heavy scope on a Montana and like it?
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VX3 3.5x10 would be my choice, adding weight to that platform wouldn't be my preference
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jimmyp,
My Weatherby Mark V six lug rifle weighs 5 lb 8 oz. With its 2.5 oz Talleys and 18.1 oz scope it weighs 6 lb 13 oz and balances very nicely. My gunsmith was very surprised at how nice it is.
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More weight than I would want on it......
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Tanner is running a 19oz 3-9x42 SS on his Montana with Talley lw's. Package weighs 6.6 pounds - he seems happy with it. I think I will try same after this season. Try it, you might like it...
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I have a friend with a 30 oz Nightforce on his 300 WSM Montana. I have shot it it a few times at the range, and I killed an antelope with it. The weight is not overpowering at all, and still balances fine.
I just bought one for myself and put a 12oz scope on mine. It balances well too.
The 84m is a bit smaller, but I don't think 18oz will make it topple over.
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Yeah, nothing better than a 5lb rifle with 2 lbs of rings and scope on top.
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Hard to fathom how weight at the balance point will change the balance...... 'Course those who've no experience are quick to show it.
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I wouldn't be afraid to try it. It will only cost you a set of rings to give it a chance. You wouldn't even ask if it only weighed 15 ounces, so I wouldn't let a mere 3 ounces keep me from seeing as late as I wanted.
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I am going to try it, the scope is in Germany right now getting fixed and when it gets back I am moving it from my primary deer rifle going another route on it maybe a NF.
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Anyone here mounted a heavy scope on a Montana and like it? Yes. I did not like it. It made a nice little Kimber into an uncomfortable piece of schit. That being said, the scope you mention probably won't be horrible, as it's not overly bulky like some of the monstrosities others strap to their Montanas.
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I was thinking of moving my Victory 1.5-6 x 42 over to my 308 Montana, I have to buy new Talley one piece 30mm rings but wondered if this is going to screw the balance up on the rifle, I had a cheap LW Minox on it but am finally giving up on that scope, biggest concerns are balance and low light performance, the Low Light performance is impressive with the victory HT but the thing is heavy. I use it mostly at 3X all the time, I would consider a fixed 4x FX2 Leupold but don't know if it would meet my needs, I watched a little 25 yard doe thru a Conquest 2.5-8 x 32 the other night at sunset plus 20 and it was getting dark in the scope not much detail could be seen in it, sure could have killed it but the head detail was not clear enough for me. The 6 x 42 Leup would work in the low light arena but might be more challenging to use close range wise. The VX-6 2-12x42 is a consideration but would need to buy it and I think they are heavy as well. Anyone here mounted a heavy scope on a Montana and like it? Jimmy: I just laughed hard when I saw you were worried about shooting a 25 yd. doe. You don't need any scope. Get back to the basics. Wowsa.
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sure could have killed it but the head detail was not clear If it had to be a buck maybe it wasn't distinguishable enough with a scope. If it wasn't with a scope, I can guarantee you the same guy could not have made the shot with open sights.
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sure could have killed it but the head detail was not clear If it had to be a buck maybe it wasn't distinguishable enough with a scope. If it wasn't with a scope, I can guarantee you the same guy could not have made the shot with open sights. Ringman: I knew your were dumb, but now I know you are blind, disabled. I feel sorry for you.
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Unless you are considering the "balance point" on a Kimber Montana to be the magazine box, IMO anyway, adding 18 ounces of scope to a Montana isn't going to help the rifle swing like a K-80. I've always wanted the balance point of my rifles to be at the front guard screw. Perhaps you and I shoot differently and I'm not trying to imply that a Montana should swing like a fine O/U, but personally, I'd want something (scope wise) just a little bit lighter. Your mileage might vary.
I recently put a Leica ER 2.5-10x42 on my Remington CS African Plains Rifle and that scope (approx. 17 ounces) balances OK because the rifle bare weighs 7 3/4 lbs and has a 26" barrel. Handles and swings good enough.
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Farmboy1, I think you are contradicting yourself. If you truly feel sorry for me you wouldn't try to be rude to me.
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My Montana wears a Leupold campact 2-7. I have a Montana because it is light. Never had any trouble shooting up to our legal time of 1/2 hour after sunset. You can go ahead and put a larger scope on it and it won't screw up the handling. It just won't handle as good as it could. Or mine.
To my mind you paid a premium for that light weight. Kind of seems odd that you would offset it with a large scope but it might be great for you. I have never put a 1+ lb scope on mine and never intend to. YMMV
I am continually astounded at how quickly people make up their minds on little evidence or none at all.
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It'll be fine. I have a few Diavari 2.5-10x42mm (18.2oz with Butler Creek flip-ups) mounted on Kimbers and a 1st Gen. Remington Titanium.
For a 30mm scope, the Diavaris are rather svelte. Not much bigger in dimensions nor weight compared to a VX-3 3.5-10x40mm.
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