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Originally Posted by shrapnel

The same can be said about the 30-06. You can back it down all the way to a 22 LR if you want. The 300 WBY still is the perfect storm in the 300 line. You guys like to compare overloaded 300 Win loads to under loaded 300 WBY rounds. I have chronographed 165 factory loads in a 24 inch 300 WBY at 3600 fps. You can't duplicate that in a Win mag...


What velocities do you get when you handload 165's in your Weatherby ?

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I don't handload 165 grain for the 300 WBY...


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So what are your handloads in the .300 Weatherby?


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180 grain BT. You know, the bullets with the plastic tips...


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What velocities are you getting with them ?

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I get right at 3250 w 180gr TTSXs and 80.1gr of MRP or RL-22


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Originally Posted by RichardAustin
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Anyone noticed a difference in the field between the 300's -Win, H&H, Weatherby, when used under similar circumstances?
I couldn't and should I ever have another 300 it will probably be the H&H.


The 300 H&H works just fine in a 300 Wby chamber.


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I'm getting just a little over 3100 fps with my Win Mag and my rifle has a 26" barrel. My load is 76 grs of H4831 with Fed. 215 primers. Fantastic accuracy with 180 Nosler BT's (actually the Nosler Combined Technology BT's).

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Originally Posted by shrapnel
This is an unfinished debate, but put into the simplest terms:
A 300 H&H is a little more than a 30-06, the 300 Win is a little more than a 300 H&H, the 300 WBY is a little more than a 300 Win, the 30-378 is a little lot more than the 300 WBY.



Fixed it for you......only limited in that it's still using 30 caliber bullets.

But your comparison analogy is right on.

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Originally Posted by SEdge
Originally Posted by RichardAustin
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Anyone noticed a difference in the field between the 300's -Win, H&H, Weatherby, when used under similar circumstances?
I couldn't and should I ever have another 300 it will probably be the H&H.


The 300 H&H works just fine in a 300 Wby chamber.


That was a good one.

Based upon my experiences I seriously doubt that anyone is capable of detecting much difference between the three in the field under like circumstances.


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Seems like 180 Ballistic Tips might be a little soft,(especially at closer ranges) if they are launched at 3250fps? I'm thinking Accubonds or Partitions would be a be a better choice? I'd be curious if someone has actually shot game with those bullets, so loaded.


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So much time spent on worrying about Partition bullets and their net worth over a good BT. This isn't Africa, and these aren't dangerous game. The BT Killed them all without a bunch of failures. I used to use Accubonds, but found they aren't necessary either...

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Great pics Kirk. I'm a die hard fan of BT's as well. Never had a rifle that wouldn't shoot BT's into tiny groups either. I use the 165's or 168's in my 06, 140's in my 280 Ackley and the 180's in my 300 Win Mag. I might have missed this, but what kind of velocities are you getting out of your Weatherby with the 180's ?

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We have killed a number of elk with the 150 grain BT BT out of my .300 win. mg. Never tried to break any shoulders, but it killed about half a dozen very quickly..


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For the most part, I'm just a whitetail hunter so I'm not all that concerned about super duty bullet construction. I've never had a whitetail go any great distance after taking a BT and some have dropped right there on the spot. I know a lot of guys here get all lathered up over Barnes bullets and I'm sure they work great too, but whitetails aren't all that difficult to kill, so I stick with what has always worked great for me.

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No one would dare question the veracity of the Nosler Partition, but for most North American game it isn't necessary. I have killed hundreds of deer, elk and antelope with very little use of premium bullets. I had hunted a few years with the 200 grain Accubond in my 30-378 but eventually decided that was too much gun.

I went back to the 300 WBY, which I think is suited for the 180 grain bullet and continue to kill plenty of elk, some shot in the shoulder for purpose of anchoring them on the spot, and the BT has continued to kill them.

The most elk I have killed, somewhere around 40 or so, have been with the Hornady 165 spire point in the 30-06. All dead, all eaten and excellent success. The bullet companies continue to improve bullets that they sell to the sportsmen that want to buy them, but the results I have gotten with a bread and butter bullet hasn't made me ever think I needed something more...


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You are quite right, and as Shrapnel pointed out they work well on big game also.. To me Barnes has gone a different route to achieve what Nosler did 60 years ago.. There are times when I do use partitions, but not as much as I once did..


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Shrapnel, you still have the .30-378???


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It is gone and I don't miss it a bit...


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Knew a guy that built a 30-378 because he wanted one. Never saw him shoot it near as much as his trusty Parker Hale 300 Wby.

Eventually came to the conclusion that he enjoyed telling people he owned a 30-378, far more than he enjoyed shootin' it.


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