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I've enjoyed reading about the different rifles he hunted with and which ones he liked and didn't like.

He killed a LOT of grizzly bears with calibers that are considered too light today.

He thought the .220 Swift was an excellent big bear killer.


I love that part. Didn't he have a rifle blow up in his false shooting at a grizzly..



Yeah, A 145 grain .30-06 round blew out and temporarily blinded him. He shot 2 griz from about 50 yards iirc and the blowup happened when he shot the second one.

He knew he had at least one wounded bear but he couldn't see for awhile. He swore off using 145 grain loads after that.


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Originally Posted by rainierrifleco
I read both of those but it has been a fewer years. Along with several others. I remember in some book reading about gum boots. Aperintly some kind of rubber.
Braving the cold is nothing new to the pioneers regardless what time frame. Think of the mountain men.
I recently read about a game warden back in the day that kinda startes the bush plane thing in Alaska. Sorry don't remember the title. He describes a lot of how the delt with the cold. Like draining the oil out of the plane and keeping it warm on the wood stove at night. Flying an open cockpit plane at 60 below couldn't have been fun...
I think those people were tougher than us.
Read up about Hudockivich.....from around delta junction...another tough guy..



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Originally Posted by SmokeEater2
I'm a big fan of wool myself. I was issued Gore-Tex and the polyester stuff when the Army got into it and then I bought all kinds civilian wonder gear but was never that happy with it.

Now I hunt in an old Woolrich or Filson wool mackinaw and wool pants or bibs and a Stormy Kromer cap depending on how cold it is. It's quiet when I'm walking and I'm warmer than I was in synthetic stuff.

If it's raining I wear an old oiled or waxed (don't know which) hunting coat and it does just fine.

I got all of it dirt cheap at thrift stores. I guess I'm one of the few people that like it, because it doesn't sell well so they price it cheap.

Works for me, I've got 5 or 6 Filson mackinaws and 2 Woolrich. I paid 23 bucks for the most expensive one.


So, I always hear about these great thrift store finds, but when I go, most of the stuff looks like a beaver chewed on it a bit and then used it to wipe his ass.

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Frank had a primer blow back or some such incident.
Both great books!

I live close to Frank's old Black Rapids Road House and have knocked around that area quite a lot. Windy SOB!

There are several photos around of Frank in his Filson Alaska Tuxedo.

Those old timers usually wore wool and covered all with a long wind shirt of heavy cotton nearly canvas.

The Game Warden mentioned was probably Sam White.

I also liked Jim Rearden's book about Slim Carlson the old trapper on Minchumina lake. It includes his very interesting annual grocery list......100 pounds of coffee....we Swedes drink a lot of coffee but two pounds a week will keep you wired for sure......I suspect he chewed some of it also.

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I live in a retirement area. Lots of folks move here and their belongings get dumped in the thrift stores when they pass away.

Most of them took good care of their stuff.

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Bella Vista, Hot Springs, or Mountain Home?

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Russians in Siberia used to wear canvas pants and tops, with fur sewn inside, skin against the canvas, the fur against your skin.


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Ahhhhh,,,, Frank actually mentions his Filson wool several times in the book.
There's even pix of him wearing it IIRC.


Ha! I guess that explains why I seemed to visualize him wearing Filson! grin blush


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Bella Vista, Hot Springs, or Mountain Home?



Mountain Home. You in Arkansas JoeBob?

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I want to thank everyone for the conversation. I didn't know if this topic would have any interest and I'm enjoying the discussion along with learning a lot.

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Originally Posted by SmokeEater2
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Bella Vista, Hot Springs, or Mountain Home?



Mountain Home. You in Arkansas JoeBob?


Nope, barely out, but I'm from there and that is where I do all my hunting.

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Well If you're ever in the neighborhood give a holler.

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I'm guessing but out by sawmill creek, the hajdukovich creek probably isn't the same namesake?

I recall reading some flight books with Reiners name in it.

I really should buy some more books, those are good reading.


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The discussion of '20's/30's clothing (and mention of elderly people passing on) reminds me that I've got a pair of CRAZY heavy wool sweaters worn by my grandparents in the 30's while driving in their open touring car. I was also given the horse hide jackets they wore over them, but think they might be at my folks house.

I own a couple Filson Waterfoul sweaters which are heavy, very high quality worsted wool garments, and the heaviest commercially available sweaters I've personally seen, but those old sweaters from my grandparents make them look like cheap knock-offs. My grandparents were VERY hard working, but probably weren't considered extraordinary at the time...............that's just how everyone lived. People in 1st world countries are so soft and spoiled today, and don't even realize it.


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As far as people being tough in the old days, you ever see what they wore in the summer? It is amazing they were dropping out right and left. Photos of men in wool suits and hats in 100 degree heat.

I'll bet they were all some kind of rank.

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As far as people being tough in the old days, you ever see what they wore in the summer? It is amazing they were dropping out right and left. Photos of men in wool suits and hats in 100 degree heat.

I'll bet they were all some kind of rank.


One of the great things about wool is that it doesn't get as stinky as synthetics. I guess the bacteria that cause the odor don't live as well on the wool fibers. Another good thing (unless you're trying to block the wind) is that wool breathes. This makes wool clothing comfortable under a wide range of temperatures, even pretty warm temps. Nowdays you can get wool shirts and T-shirts that are pretty thin and appropriate for reasonably warm days. I use those when traveling where I can't get clothes laundered. I hate nylon and polyester.

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About 1957, I found my late grandfather's hunting gear stored in a attic trunk. At the time, my hunting clothes were a navy pea coat with red bandanna pinned on back, jeans and artic galoshes . When I found his Woolrich coat. Woolrich double bottom, riding britches and lace up knee high leather boots. Thought I was about the luckiest teenager alive. The coat was great unless it got wet and the pants looked kinda silly but I wore them for years. The leather boots were flat out dangerous. Ever try side hilling on snow covered slopes wearing leather soles?

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Originally Posted by 222Rem
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Ahhhhh,,,, Frank actually mentions his Filson wool several times in the book.
There's even pix of him wearing it IIRC.


Ha! I guess that explains why I seemed to visualize him wearing Filson! grin blush


Yep,,,, that would explain it. grin

I actually felt remorse when the fur market crashed and Frank had to leave his beloved cabin and eventually find work with the government.
His years in that cabin sounded like pure heaven to me.

That book is actually on loan to me from a member here (Lonny). I better read it again before he remembers I have it.

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I heard about it a few years ago from a friend (who's also a 'Fire member), and after reading it, bought a copy for my dad to enjoy. For a non publicized book, I'm continually surprised by how many people I've visited with who've read it..........my mechanic for instance, just last week.


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Come to think of it, I have "The Mad Trapper from Rat River" on loan to him.

Coincedence or just good books? Probably a little of both, but good thread either way.

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