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Need a reasonable priced shock collar for house lab. Thinking on Tri Tronics. What is a good brand and place to buy??

What makes you think you need an e-collar. I'm not opposed to them, but don't think they are always the answer. And yes, I do use them, but they should not be a way of life, IMHO.
T

Hey Coal miner! I sent you a PM. I've got one and am not planning to use it indefinately. Hate to sell it cause I would have a hard time justifying a new one to the wife.

David

How did your wife take to wearing the collar? Can't get mine to put the damn thing on! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Seriously, more good dogs have been ruined with shock collars than any other training method. Study up before you plug it in.

I need one, too � but one that would zap a Lab only mildly could kill my four-pound long-haired Chihuahua. She'd need probably the smallest, mildest one that anyone makes.

Sources?

http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut-300.html

this is what I use & could not keep my 100# lab with out it..I buy all my dog stuff from Gundog Supply Supply, they have good prices & 1st class service..

Coalminer,This is what we use on our property both inside and outside for the labs and the cats. www.invisiblefence.com

I wouldn't be so sure about that -- when we got one for our Lab, we of course had to try it on ourselves and our friends first. (We held it with the contacts on the palm of our hands.)

The collar is a Tri-Tronics -- can't remember the model but it has 5 basic settings with a "High" and "Low" button, so really 10 settings.

I couldn't feel Low 1 until the second or third try. I think I dropped the collar around Low 4. My wife went a notch or two higher than I did. A healthy male friend went "Eek!" and dropped the collar on Low 1. Pain tolerance is a funny thing.

On our 70-lb. Lab, we have to go to High 3/Low 4 to get a visible reaction when she's doing anything she finds more interesting than whatever it is we want her to do.

We have a Tri Tronics for our "son".

It takes only tone or level one most times. I've used 2 a few times.

I had to use the high level once when he got a long ways out on a goose and then was about to get towards a road so I bumped him on high and he came straight in.

The controller looks like my mag lite kinda. We don't use the collar unless on a hunt or a place we may need to reinforce. Like someplace new. Or an exciting hunt. We used it here at home a few times and seems like it worked. Now if I'm in a pinch I can grab my lite and he'll listen. Or whistle in a tone like the tone on the collar and he'll listen.

Used correctly it sure is a good tool.

Loaned it to my boss and they tried it on their setter. Says the kids ended up putting it on each other and shocking themselves more than the dog.

Jeff

I've used them since they were invented. My Dad used to train retrievers professionally.

I personally have a Tri-tronics unit, and while excellent - I think they are over-priced in comparison to the competition nowadays. I'd take a good hard look at the "Cabela's" brand - they give an aweful lot of performance for the money. Do your dog a favour and get a book or two on the subject - as poor use of an electronic training device will ruin a dog faster than just about any other technique - short of a shotgun.

Guys,
I know this sometimes is not the answer, but this dog runs off when out and thinks it is funny to pull my horses tail. I need to teach this dog that shoed horse hooves and its head do not make a good match. I have seen horses chase and kill dogs before and it is not pretty.

That is the perfect description of what an electronic trainer is perfect for.

Crank it up to max - and let the dog have it for a second or two - and make sure the dog can't see you watching - or he'll think you had something to do with it.

For the simple stuff - brute force is ok, what screws a dog up (often) is trying to train complex thought patterns using electronic stimulation. Particularly if the owner is the impatient kind.

Well, I understand, but it is a tool for reinforcing what a dog already knows. It is not a "teaching" tool.

BCB is right. Please do yourself and your dog a favor and read the book before you buy the collar. Don't just start out nailing him.

One of my rules is I never use a level on a dog before I test it on myself. (That might explain a lot. I shouldn't have attached it to my head. Just kidding.)

I also agree that Tri-Tronics are more expensive than others just as good.

It is not a quick fix and I promise you, if misused your dog will NEVER be the same.

Good luck.

T

toltecgriz,

Your joke reminded me of something that happened to me at a retriever trial many years ago.

I was telling a competitor how glad I was that the Canadian Kennel Club was now allowing artificial insemination on dogs. It greatly simplified the old way, of transporting, dogs, bitches, worrying about fight, disease etc.

The guy I was talking to - asked the delicate question of how the semen was "collected". He was told that he could use the same technique he was familiar with himself (to which he emphatically shook his head "no" to) or he could use the much more modern "electric probe" device - the way they do with bulls.

He said "No way! - I'd never subject my dog to something as painful as that must be!" Another dog-trial guy (and known bull owner) kind of chuckled, and with a pensive smile added "I wouldn't call it a painful device - it's more of a pleasant tingle."

To which, we all doubled over - laughing our guts out.

Gee, I wouldn't know. :-)
T

Rancher Al imported an expensive bull from the other side of The Big Water. It wouldn't perform for him.

"Jet lag," the vet said, and gave Al a big jar of pills for the bull. No immediate response. "Increase the dose," the vet said. Still no response. "Increase it again," the vet said. Still no discernible response.

Al doubled the dose.

The bull suddenly sprang to life, serviced Al's cows, broke through a fence, serviced all the cows on the next ranch, broke through another fence, and vigorously went to business with the cows on the third place.

Al apologized to his wide-eyed neighbor and explained about the jet lag and the pills.

"What d'you reckon's in 'em?" the neighbor asked.

"I don't know,"Al said, "but they taste like peppermint."

We better get a shock collar for you, but that is funny.
T

I almost forgot. The number one rule for shock collars- if you have a bad temper (read cannot or will not control your temper), do not get a shock collar. You will thank me for this.

If it's not rule 1, it should be.

t

Only shock the dog untill it stops the undesiarable behavior. not after. This is not to punish a dog but to use avertion therepy to stop a behavior. Most dogs will figure out that they only need to behave when the colars on, put a battery on there colar and they will think they have it on all the time. Finally for anyone that has a pointer, i used the tone to signal a warning behore the shock, now when my peeper goes o to signal a point the dog thinks it is going to get a shock, very poor planning on my part. Use the tone as a reward. I have a classic and am very happy, it is heavy but the rechargeable batteries end up paying for itself.

Don't know about dogs but shock collars are indispensable if you have teenagers.






























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