Home Forums Hunting & Shooting General Big Game New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?

Over on AR the speculation is now this is gonna be a totaly NEW case , with the body being as fat as the belt on H&H brass........

If true , the case will hold more powder than the old H&H . From the pictures on AR , it does appear to have a bit fatter body than the 338 and it's ilk...........so...... could be interestin' stuff ahead.....

Andrew-

Those rifles you are referring to are not the standard rifles that Ruger sells- these cost in the $1500 range. They sell VERY few of them each year. They want to be able sell a 375 at a competitive rate. I have only seen ruger come out with a couple of dogs, so I expect that this will be a decent rifle. I have noticed a huge drop in QC at Ruger since Bill died. More and more of their parts are being installed "as cast" rather than machined to tolerances. Oh- well, people still buy them.

===============
from: http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ert_072706/

HORNADY
Wayne Holt of Hornady also had some new for 2007 items for us to look at and after the presentation he told me that I could share all of it with the online reading audience. So for about two hours I sat patiently through the rest of the day's presentations, formulating in my head how to present this mountain of info. While I was planning my day four write-up, Hornady Marketing guru Neil Davies started to chew on Holt's ear about how he didn't think it was a good idea to let the information out at this point. So after lunch, with a smile on his face, Neil informed me that I can only report on the .375 Ruger, the new for 2007 round that Hornady is manufacturing.


New for 2007, Hornady Ammunition's .375 Ruger.

The .375 Ruger features a standard magnum bolt face, is reported as being the smoothest feeding magnum to date and will be available in 270-gr. SP, 300-gr. IB and 300-gr. FMJ.

The round has been field tested by Craig Boddington in Africa with great success. Boddington killed a hippo and two water [sic] buffalo with the round.

Look for a future in-depth review in a Primedia publication.
=========

NO belt, I like it.

Thanks,

Ya gotta wonder why it took a factory so long to try a case designed along these lines , after ultra-mag , shot-mag , and stretching , chopping , and necking the old belted Holland and Holland case every which way but loose.....

Reportedly (check big bore forum on AR) the factory loads are going to hit 2850 fps/270 gr and 2700fps/300 gr !........recoil in a synthetic stocked Ruger 77 is not gonna be for the once a year , trigger yankin' deer hunter.........

I really like that!!

A fat, beltless cartridge that fits in a standard-length action? What possible advantage could that provide? Oh, wait, never mind - that�s just what I�ve been wanting! I anticipate the cartridge will be a success and will generate more than a few offspring over the coming years.

The short mags never did interest me but the concept of FBMs (Fat, Beltless Magnums) that fit standard-length actions have. I�ve been hoping for some time that Ruger would chamber the Dakota cartridges, or at least the .338 and .375. While I wanted a Ruger in a FBM, the RUMs don�t fit the Ruger standard action and I didn�t want a 9-1/2 or 10-pound Ruger Magnum.

I think there is much to be said for a fat, heavy bullet traveling at moderate velocities, which is one reason I like my .375 Winchester and .45-70. It�s also why I like the concept of the .338 Federal and .338-06. The Ruger .375 will not be in the same class as the RUM, but that�s quite OK with me as it comes in a more practical package.

Let�s see � a .375 Ruger initially � what could be next � a .338 Ruger? I like it!

Perhaps it is a bit of common sense infiltrating the ammo and rifle manufacturers.

Wow, here comes a whole nother slew of wildcats.

Damn! Another great idea I didn't patent! (Most folks don't know it but I thunk up the idea for mountain bikes back in 1976. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />)

Seriously, I've often wondered why they don't just make a case that starts at the same diameter as a belted case and then just run the sidewalls up from there. Not as much capacity as an Ultra mag or some such based on the .404, but it would definitely add usable space.

Even better, if I'm getting this right, you could clean up a lot of existing belted mag chambers if folks wanted to re-chamber to something based on the new case. You wouldn't have to change the bolt face nor modify the feed rails most likely.

I really think this is the most genuinely useful design to come up in hunting cartridges in a long time - far better than the Ultra Blasters with their excessive power and easier feeding than the short mags.

Good on Ruger and Hornady!

Jim, if in fact that's what this cartridge is, I couldn't agree more!

Should be dandy necked down to 30 cal too...

Dennis - I have never seen a Ruger like I listed at 1500. 1100 sure but not 1500. That is where I was comming from.

I haven't seen any fall off in the Rugers I looked at recently but they could have been old stock Dunno. I hope they don't fall off. IMO a Ruger is the best buy in tirearms right now. 500 bones for a good looking rifle that comes with rings. Ergos are spot on for me. I looked at CZ and they just do not do it for me.

still not sure what this does that the 376 Steyr does not already do, except maybe have the Ruger name and endorsement.

David, it's a bigger case...

Water Buffalo in Africa?

I wish they would make a 284 based case only with the 30-06 length. You wouldn't have to change the bolt face on the many existing standard actions and probably get belted mag capacities, plus be beltless.

They do - the 280 remington. I believe its most popular offering is 280AI which is supposed to run with teh 7mm mag.

Nosler is supposed to be offering brass as the 280AI soon as their new custom is being offered in that this year. No fireforming if that's the hold up.

I didn't mean 284 caliber, I meant 284 the Short action cartridge with the rebated rim. If that short action cartridge were extended out to standard action length w/ same shoulders etc then the capacity would be greater, (probably close to the same diff %wise between 7-08-284).

Then it would surpass the ai versions of standard rounds and be close to or surpassing the belted mag version. Not sure here just pulling a wild guess.

Ahhh - I see. That would be cool then. I thought you were asking for a 30-06 length 7mm.

Well, I did add a [sic] in the text I quoted from the web site. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

sic --- Thus; so. Used to indicate that a quoted passage, especially one containing an error or unconventional spelling, has been retained in its original form or written intentionally.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sic

Cheers!
-Bob F.

I always thought [sic] meant "said in context" or "This idjit cain't speak engrish".