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Make it simple for yourselves everyone.
Limit your people shooting to defense of innocent human beings from death or substantial bodily injury.
You will be less likely to end up wearing lipstick and braiding your cellmates hair.
mike r
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Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
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That appears to be a major problem with Kaarma he did not identify his target he just started shooting. He could have hit or killed anybody or anything in that garage.
You always have to identify your target.
Ummm.... no. Dumbfugg. You have to do a little more than identify your target in order to justify the use of deadly force. Travis NO, you don't. You have to reasonably believe in the need to use deadly force and in hindsight, a jury has to agree with you. Not identifying your target might undermine your defense, but then again (depending on the facts) it might be totally irrelevant. Jordan
Communists: I still hate them even after they changed their name to "liberals". ____________________
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No you don't have to do a little more than identify your target?
Or no you don't have to identify there is a threat?
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Basically, if you are concerned about the consequences of shooting, you haven't met the threshold for self-defense.
Pretty simple, huh?
Never holler whoa or look back in a tight place
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Basically, if you are concerned about the consequences of shooting, you haven't met the threshold for self-defense.
Pretty simple, huh? I'm pretty sure you'll be concerned as fugg either way. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I thought you were gonna start sucking up to Texans due to your upcoming visit.
Never holler whoa or look back in a tight place
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I'm not advocating killing a kid, but some of the folks here going on about this whole affair sound a lot like Trayvon defenders...I mean, you know, if Trayvon had been like, white or whatnot.
I mean, isn't that always what the old baby-mama's always say, "he was a good boy, he wouldn't never hurt nobody or do nuffin' wrong,".
The cops set folks up all the time, but it was wrong for this dude to and wronger for him to tell people he was going to...kinda like a warning, "don't [bleep] with my [bleep],"?
If Billy Goat Gruff asks me to go into his garage, I ain't gonna. I don't know how a person can compare a case that involved the use of force within the confines of the law, to a case that involved the use of force outside the confines of the law. Travis Okay, but if we're gonna steal BGG's suitcase of brew, YOU'RE going in first. I'll grab the beers and run whilst you pull down your pants and wiggle your ass at him. I'll save you a half dozen or so brewskis.
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I know I would much rather have Billy goat as a neighbor than a bunch of German college kids, both of us can afford to buy our own beer, bullets and garages.
And I appreciate that in a man!
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I know I would much rather have Billy goat as a neighbor than a bunch of German college kids, both of us can afford to buy our own beer, bullets and garages.
And I appreciate that in a man! BGG for President or at least local Sheriff. Seriously, the dude can move in down here by me anytime.
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I thought you were gonna start sucking up to Texans due to your upcoming visit. I got another 45 days before I have to worry about that. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Okay, but if we're gonna steal BGG's suitcase of brew, YOU'RE going in first. I'll grab the beers and run whilst you pull down your pants and wiggle your ass at him. I'll save you a half dozen or so brewskis. I avoid him like the plague. And he doesn't buy actual beer. Just piss in a can. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I know I would much rather have Billy goat as a neighbor than a bunch of German college kids, both of us can afford to buy our own beer, bullets and garages.
And I appreciate that in a man! BGG for President or at least local Sheriff. Seriously, the dude can move in down here by me anytime. He really can't afford any of that. But if you want to vote for him, have at it. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Thank you gentlemen, but I'm afraid public office is unlikely in my future. Clark is the politician, I'm just the guy in the shadowed corner nursing his pitcher of draft. I'd be glad to have a rather large number of guys on here as neighbors. Of course neighbors for me are measured in miles away.
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But....... (and I see your point here Gruff)
If people think you might shoot their ass(if they be fuucking around....), they probably won't be fuucking around.
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Thank you gentlemen, but I'm afraid public office is unlikely in my future. Clark is the politician, I'm just the guy in the shadowed corner nursing his pitcher of draft. I'd be glad to have a rather large number of guys on here as neighbors. Of course neighbors for me are measured in miles away. Those are the best kind of neighbors.
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Most kids these days are too 'retarded' to know any better though.
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But....... (and I see your point here Gruff)
If people think you might shoot their ass(if they be fuucking around....), they probably won't be fuucking around.
Sam. Don't make things complicated. In my garage? MEET THE REAPER! Travis
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Thank God you left the E in there.
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Bud Light just hit the screen.
I blame you both.....laughing
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