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H.R.258 - Stolen Valor Act of 2013 I hope that we all understand how serious this really is. The reason this is law is because there are good folks that have to put up with imbeciles that want to piggy back off of those that did their duty and nothing else. Beware 4321. You are known to the good people that defend and take this law seriously. Glenn Holcomb will be in a world of hurt if he keeps on being a pain in the collective Campfire's ass. And the Stolen Valor Act will make things right.
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H.R.258 - Stolen Valor Act of 2013 I hope that we all understand how serious this really is. The reason this is law is because there are good folks that have to put up with imbeciles that want to piggy back off of those that did their duty and nothing else. Beware 4321. You are known to the good people that defend and take this law seriously. Glenn Holcomb will be in a world of hurt if he keeps on being a pain in the collective Campfire's ass. And the Stolen Valor Act will make things right. Umm, SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional a few years ago.
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Umm, SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional a few years ago.
H.R. 258: Stolen Valor Act of 2013 Introduced: Jan 15, 2013 (113th Congress, 2013�2015) Status: Enacted � Signed by the President on Jun 3, 2013 Law: This bill became the law numbered Pub.L. 113-12.
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On June 3, President Barack Obama signed into law The American Legion-backed Stolen Valor Act of 2013, which now makes it a "federal crime for an individual to fraudulently hold oneself out to be a recipient of any of several specified military decorations or medals with the intent to obtain money, property, or other tangible benefit."
The U.S. Supreme Court overturned the original Stolen Valor Act of 2005, deeming it unconstitutional because it was, in the justices� opinion, too broad in scope and violated the right of free speech. The Legion passed Resolution 283 during its 2012 National Convention, calling on Congress to amend the Stolen Valor Act of 2005, to provide that the elements of fraud be incorporated into previous Stolen Valor legislation. U.S. Rep. Joe Heck, R-Nev., and the Legion worked together to draft a new Stolen Valor Act that included this legal language in effort to meet the Supreme Court�s objections to the old Stolen Valor Act.
On Jan. 15, 2013, Heck introduced H.R.258, the Stolen Valor Act of 2013. The bill also criminalized the act of lying to gain unearned veterans health-care benefits or other rewards, such as employment reserved for veterans. And on May 20, the House of Representatives passed Heck�s bill by a vote of 390 to 3. Legion Commander James E. Koutz praised the overwhelming, bipartisan vote.
"The American Legion is impressed with Congress today," he said. "Those who deliberately lie about military service, wear medals they did not earn or make claims of combat heroism they did not achieve are more than just liars. They are perpetrators of the worst kind of fraud. Their lies are an insult to all who have truly stood in harm�s way and earned their decorations. We raised this issue at our national convention, and the House acted."
On May 22, the Senate passed the legislation by unanimous consent. Senators Dean Heller, R-Nev., and Jon Tester, D-Mont., introduced the Senate companion bill (S. 210).
Both Heck and Heller rejoiced at the president�s signature. "I�m pleased that the valor and integrity of our military awards, along with the men and women who have earned them, are once again protected by law," Heck said. "It has been an incredibly rewarding process, and I thank all of those who have helped along the way in making this bill a law."
"I�m pleased that President Obama signed the Stolen Valor Act into law," Heller said. "The brave acts of the men and women in our military should be honored and protected. Thanks to the hard work of Rep. Heck and those who joined us in support of this issue, the recognition that these men and women earned will be preserved."
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Has he claimed to have been awarded a CMH or a Navy Cross?
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Umm, SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional a few years ago.
I'd like to know when that happened. I'm just a regular guy from Texas that had something to do with the Stolen Valor Project and I didn't hear about all of our hard work flushed down the Supreme Court's toilet.
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He can be prosecuted for wearing the following;
a Medal of Honor, a Distinguished Service Cross, a Navy Cross, an Air Force Cross, a Silver Star, a Purple Heart, a Combat Infantryman's Badge, a Combat Action Badge, a Combat Medical Badge, a Combat Action Ribbon, a Combat Action Medal, or any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law.
And uses it for financial gain.
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The U.S. Supreme Court overturned the original Stolen Valor Act of 2005, deeming it unconstitutional because it was, in the justices� opinion, too broad in scope and violated the right of free speech.
There is a difference between 2005 and 2013. Why do I have to do this? The dates are damned easy to know the difference from. Look it up. I did. Ain't going to do it for you again.
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H.R.258 - Stolen Valor Act of 2013 I hope that we all understand how serious this really is. The reason this is law is because there are good folks that have to put up with imbeciles that want to piggy back off of those that did their duty and nothing else. Beware 4321. You are known to the good people that defend and take this law seriously. Glenn Holcomb will be in a world of hurt if he keeps on being a pain in the collective Campfire's ass. And the Stolen Valor Act will make things right. Wonder how it compares to say stalking, harassment, defamation, or slander? As long as you're certain, probably nothing to worry about.
Be Polite , Be Professional , but have a plan to kill everybody you meet -General James Mattis United States Marine Corps
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The section I posted was taken directly from the act of 2013. Pretty narrow in scope, I haven't read much of his cr p to see if he's violated my post above.
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Wonder how it compares to say stalking, harassment, defamation, or slander? As long as you're certain, probably nothing to worry about.
One ass stinks the same as the other
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Wonder how it compares to say stalking, harassment, defamation, or slander?
I don't know Richard. Who have you stalked? Who have you harassed? Who's character have you defamed? Who have you slandered? Interesting questions if you want to be honest.
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And I guess everyone will suck it up and praise these turds.
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And I guess everyone will suck it up and praise these turds. No, I think it is just another case of a Supreme Court ruling against the will of about 80% of Americans who thinks it's bullschitt.
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So... What do you really think?
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What do you mean?
I think it should be a crime, so did Congress, but some slap-happy judge thought it equated to freedom of speech.
Walk around in a policeman's uniform and watch what happens.
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Dude, you really need to get a life, you take this internet way too seriously. Get a hobby or something...cooking chili obviously is not the answer to fulfill your time. If you don't like this guy just put him on ignore or simply don't read his posts...it's really that simple.
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Posting about something as important as Stolen Valor must have hit a nerve with you. I'm not surprised.
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If you don't like this guy just put him on ignore Tell me who to put on ignore.
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