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Can you hit a deer in the vitals with a peep sight at 100 yards? If that's a yes, then you'll have no problem hitting a deer in the vitals at 600 yards with a 6X quality rifle scope..spend some time learning how it all works, and you'll do just fine with a 6X.


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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
Can you hit a deer in the vitals with a peep sight at 100 yards? If that's a yes, then you'll have no problem hitting a deer in the vitals at 600 yards with a 6X quality rifle scope..spend some time learning how it all works, and you'll do just fine with a 6X.


Why on earth would you try to bring logical thought into this argument?



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I guess I should mention I've never shot any deer with a 6x, but I've shot a bunch with variables set to 5-6x. So much so that I do not consider it a handicap to have a fixed 6 on a deer rifle. I could give a schidt what the precision guys are doing and I honestly don't even care that Ringman loves high power Tasco junk on his "deer spotting rifle". Whatever you wanna hunt is fine by me, just don't try and tell me my way is wrong because you saw a list of what "precision shooters" are using on the internet.


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So, rather than aiming at 2" paint spots at 550, how about aiming at the vital zone on deer?

Earlier you said something along the lines of 6x being OK for large targets not far away. Let the deer vital zone be how large. You tell us how far, without being facetious please.

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Last time I mentioned how far a 6x has taken me, it turned into a saga. Right, Rick? grin

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Was that with the 140 Berger, curious because I just bought some Berger 140's for my 264?


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Originally Posted by mathman
So, rather than aiming at 2" paint spots at 550, how about aiming at the vital zone on deer?

Earlier you said something along the lines of 6x being OK for large targets not far away. Let the deer vital zone be how large. You tell us how far, without being facetious please.


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Last time I mentioned how far a 6x has taken me, it turned into a saga. Right, Rick? grin


Everyone has a personal preference. I prefer to have the option to turn the power down for shooting position reasons or target location reasons and also the option to turn it up for accuracy and precision. Just giving an opinion on what works for me. If ya'll want to shoot at targets and game with irons and low powered scopes at long range, I really couldn't give a good schitt.

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Was that with the 140 Berger, curious because I just bought some Berger 140's for my 264?


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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Everyone has a personal preference. I prefer to have the option to turn the power down for shooting position reasons or target location reasons and also the option to turn it up for accuracy and precision. Just giving an opinion on what works for me. If ya'll want to shoot at targets and game with irons and low powered scopes at long range, I really couldn't give a good schitt. Or a straight answer.

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Question was about 6x but not necessarily a fixed 6x. Thanks for all responses


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Everyone has a personal preference. I prefer to have the option to turn the power down for shooting position reasons or target location reasons and also the option to turn it up for accuracy and precision. Just giving an opinion on what works for me. If ya'll want to shoot at targets and game with irons and low powered scopes at long range, I really couldn't give a good schitt.

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RC, what range will 6x take you to on deer? confused


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Originally Posted by SAKO75
Question was about 6x but not necessarily a fixed 6x. Thanks for all responses


It is really not a simple question.

Many here have said that 600yds is no problem . Maybe or maybe not. cool

I would say that just because we can resolve, in good light, well enough to aim at the deer does not necessarily mean 6X is enough for shooting game at that distance. Aiming the rifle with enough precision is just one part of the issue of actually killing game.

6X is not enough to adequately read the mirage for your wind call and at 600yds you will be holding some wind more often than not when shooting game.

6X is not enough, for me @ 600yds, to be sure I am picking the right buck out of a crowd, ensuring the buck is clear of intervening brush or clear of other animals. This is especially true in challenging light conditions.

While there is no doubt that game has been taken at 600yds with 6X that does not mean it is wise to do such things.

In my opinion 400yds is a pretty reasonable max range if you are limited to 6X on the optic but I suspect not all will agree. grin


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Question was about 6x but not necessarily a fixed 6x. Thanks for all responses


It is really not a simple question.

Many here have said that 600yds is no problem . Maybe or maybe not. cool

I would say that just because we can resolve, in good light, well enough to aim at the deer does not necessarily mean 6X is enough for shooting game at that distance. Aiming the rifle with enough precision is just one part of the issue of actually killing game.

6X is not enough to adequately read the mirage for your wind call and at 600yds you will be holding some wind more often than not when shooting game.

6X is not enough, for me @ 600yds, to be sure I am picking the right buck out of a crowd, ensuring the buck is clear of intervening brush or clear of other animals. This is especially true in challenging light conditions.

While there is no doubt that game has been taken at 600yds with 6X that does not mean it is wise to do such things.

In my opinion 400yds is a pretty reasonable max range if you are limited to 6X on the optic but I suspect not all will agree. grin


That response makes alot of sense, well thought out.


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Yah, but it addresses the question and that's uncalled for!


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Longest shot with 6X was 438 yds. I would have rather had 8X, but 6X worked.


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287 yards.

Having said that I can murder 12" gongs at 500 all day long with my FX3 6x42 with the LRD reticle.


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