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I took this hog from my 5 inch Springfield around twenty yards using the Federal 230 gr HST Plus P and he dropped in his tracks with behind shoulder shot. I like this bullet and load. I took the second hog with the Hornady 230 gr Plus P XTP at about the same distant and he dropped on the spot with behind shoulder shot, so if the bullet will go through the gristle plated shoulder of a Wild Boar it should work well on humans. In a civilian self defense shooting i worry more about over penetration than under. Has any one tried the New 220 gr Hornady Critical Duty Ammo in the 45 ACP? In my Springfield Champion i carry the Speer Gold 185 gr Plus P because the pistol likes them so well.
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Did any exit? What was the internal damage like? Good shooting on those hogs. This type info is awesome.
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IMO the best short barrel load would vary depending on usage Hunting = max velocity with accurcy, self defence = good velocity, accuracy and low muzzle flash . If one thinks muzzle flash is unimportant in a defence load go shoot some in the dark and see how long it takes your eyes to adjust for a second shot with varying degrees of muzzle flash.
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Did any exit? What was the internal damage like? Good shooting on those hogs. This type info is awesome.
Both bullets where lodged under the skin on the far side . Lungs totally destroyed. Federal expanded better than the Hornady , but both worked the same, dead hog at the place they were shot. For self defense i believe you risk over penetration with the Hornady 230 GR XTP over the Federal HST
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I have been liking the XTPs in my 45 Super. Ammo today is much better than 20--30 years ago
Thanks for the info.
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Para Ord P10 45acp 3.16" barrel 152 gr. lead semi wad cutter, .569" bullet length 12 gr. PowerPistol 1.275" OAL, Lee factory crimp Starline 45acp +P brass If Quickload is altered from 25 to 24 gr water case capacity to compensate for the thick case walls, then 1,211 fps, 26,027 psi - 1,247 fps, 28.767 psi chrono 1226 fps, 1257 fps, Over all length is important in the short pistol for feeding and pressure. +P brass is important with .235" feed ramp intrusion and .180" web on 45acp brass, leaving .055" of thin unsupported case wall. P.O. can do this for a 21,000 psi cartridge to improve feeding, but at 29,000 psi, I need the thick case walls to avoid a case bulge.
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So you are shooting 45 Super pressure levels in the short barreled pistol.
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you are pushing the pressure limit in a standard 45 acp
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you are pushing the pressure limit in a standard 45 acp Yep, with a short light slide.
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What would you consider the best defense load in a short barrel 45 ACP with 3.0 or 3.3 inch barrel? Load up some of my carry loads Bea. 10.0 gr of Power Pistol under a 185 gr Barnes TAC-XP, you'll still get 950+ fps in your 3" gun and it will penetrate with the 230 HP's.
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your load is a good one for sure . Number one Hog Killer
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10-4, load would also offer you a bit less muzzle flip than the heavies.
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