Many times you hear about the Judeo-Christian tradition in this country. My problem with this is that the jews crucified Christ, not the arabs. Why do so called Christians give special favor to jews over non-islamofacist arabs?
The Jews did not crucify Christ, the Romans did.
Romans did at the behest of the jews gathered.
Were the actions of the Romans and Jews acts of free will, or were they part of Gods plan?
If Jesus came back today and sinful man could, they would crucify Him again. Would that be Gods plan, or did He just know the ways of man and predict their actions, even though He asked men to follow the Spirit for a better reward.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
Many times you hear about the Judeo-Christian tradition in this country. My problem with this is that the jews crucified Christ, not the arabs. Why do so called Christians give special favor to jews over non-islamofacist arabs?
Let's set the record straight.
1. Neither the Jews nor the Romans crucified Christ.
The Romans crucified Jesus.
2. Jesus was a Jew who preached a Jewish doctrine that the powers-to-be, namely the Pharisees, did not like for political reasons.
The Jewish leaders condemned Jesus for Heresy because He would not deny being God.
3. Jesus was crucified by the Romans on evidence presented by the Pharisees that showed Jesus was a public enemy of the Roman State.
The Romans were occupiers of Judea. They let the Jews have their laws and as such listened when the Jewish leaders said He'd broken them, which He hadn't.
4. Jesus's crucifixion was political in nature and not religious.
No doubt the Jewish leaders had their own reasons but there's no way you can say it was totally political due to the religious connotations of what they accused Jesus of. Pontius Pilate, the Roman Governor of Judea gave the Jewish masses the option of releasing Jesus as was the Roman custom, for the holiday. Instead they opted to release a political prisoner, Barabas. So the Jews were responsible for both the false accusations against Jesus, His prosecution and conviction and then the lack of a pardon for Him. It cannot be said that ONLY the Jewish leaders were responsible, for the Jewish masses had the chance to release Him and chose not to. The Romans executed Jesus. Thus both the Jews and the Gentiles executed God.
"And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS. This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin. Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, "Write not, �The King of the Jews;� but that he said, 'I am King of the Jews'." Pilate answered, "What I have written I have written." -John 19:19-22 (KJV)"
5. Jesus was not a Christian.
Jesus established Christianity. He is God. While He doesn't worship Himself, He is Head of the Church.
6. The Jews that followed Jesus after the crucifixion were referred to as Nazarenes.
7. Paul was the one to coin the term Christians to signify Jesus as the Christ (anointed one) and the Savior and to remove the confusion between Nazarenes and Nazirites.
8. Paul established a religion based on the death of a Jewish rebel who was an enemy of the Roman State. Why he did it is anybody's guess.
Paul was the Apostle that replaced the one who betrayed Jesus and then either killed himself or was struck down by God. Paul didn't establish any religion, God did. Paul carried the Good News to the Gentiles and thus could be credited with starting the idea of Christianity amongst non-Jews.
You realize we are in total disagreement here.
Other than Flavius Josephus there is no mention of Jesus in any other written Roman history documents of the time period. Jesus was a minor Jewish rebel nothing more and nothing less. The mythology of Jesus and the religion of Christianity like ALL religions was created out of whole cloth by man.
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Many times you hear about the Judeo-Christian tradition in this country. My problem with this is that the jews crucified Christ, not the arabs. Why do so called Christians give special favor to jews over non-islamofacist arabs?
Let's set the record straight.
1. Neither the Jews nor the Romans crucified Christ.
The Romans crucified Jesus.
2. Jesus was a Jew who preached a Jewish doctrine that the powers-to-be, namely the Pharisees, did not like for political reasons.
The Jewish leaders condemned Jesus for Heresy because He would not deny being God.
3. Jesus was crucified by the Romans on evidence presented by the Pharisees that showed Jesus was a public enemy of the Roman State.
The Romans were occupiers of Judea. They let the Jews have their laws and as such listened when the Jewish leaders said He'd broken them, which He hadn't.
4. Jesus's crucifixion was political in nature and not religious.
No doubt the Jewish leaders had their own reasons but there's no way you can say it was totally political due to the religious connotations of what they accused Jesus of. Pontius Pilate, the Roman Governor of Judea gave the Jewish masses the option of releasing Jesus as was the Roman custom, for the holiday. Instead they opted to release a political prisoner, Barabas. So the Jews were responsible for both the false accusations against Jesus, His prosecution and conviction and then the lack of a pardon for Him. It cannot be said that ONLY the Jewish leaders were responsible, for the Jewish masses had the chance to release Him and chose not to. The Romans executed Jesus. Thus both the Jews and the Gentiles executed God.
"And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS. This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin. Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, "Write not, �The King of the Jews;� but that he said, 'I am King of the Jews'." Pilate answered, "What I have written I have written." -John 19:19-22 (KJV)"
5. Jesus was not a Christian.
Jesus established Christianity. He is God. While He doesn't worship Himself, He is Head of the Church.
6. The Jews that followed Jesus after the crucifixion were referred to as Nazarenes.
7. Paul was the one to coin the term Christians to signify Jesus as the Christ (anointed one) and the Savior and to remove the confusion between Nazarenes and Nazirites.
8. Paul established a religion based on the death of a Jewish rebel who was an enemy of the Roman State. Why he did it is anybody's guess.
Paul was the Apostle that replaced the one who betrayed Jesus and then either killed himself or was struck down by God. Paul didn't establish any religion, God did. Paul carried the Good News to the Gentiles and thus could be credited with starting the idea of Christianity amongst non-Jews.
You realize we are in total disagreement here.
Other than Flavius Josephus there is no mention of Jesus in any other written Roman history documents of the time period. Jesus was a minor Jewish rebel nothing more and nothing less. The mythology of Jesus and the religion of Christianity like ALL religions was created out of whole cloth by man.
And the passage in Flavius was a forgery.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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The Jewish, Muslim, and Christianity religions are all FUBAR. All three religions have been killing each other for centuries over what's written in old books. FUBAR
Ain't that the truth and it says it all.
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The Jewish, Muslim, and Christianity religions are all FUBAR. All three religions have been killing each other for centuries over what's written in old books. FUBAR
Religion is just something I watch other people argue,fight,and kill each-other over, myself and my family don't even acknowledge the fantasy world of religion,demons,aliens,loch ness monsters, hairy man,etc,etc
good thing about topics like this-makes it easier to identify the idiots...
Parallel Verses New International Version if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Im not holding my breath for this nation to turn around.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
The Jewish, Muslim, and Christianity religions are all FUBAR. All three religions have been killing each other for centuries over what's written in old books. FUBAR
But not those like you who believe in zero, huh?
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
The Jewish, Muslim, and Christianity religions are all FUBAR. All three religions have been killing each other for centuries over what's written in old books. FUBAR
But not those like you who believe in zero, huh?
Don't conflate Marxist, who believe in a specific political order, with Atheist who do not believe in the proposition of a God.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
John 8:42-47 will tell you all you need to know about the situation if you got enough brains to decipher it,....and it ain't like you got to be a genius to do so.
It's been going on for a long, long, long time,......but the Messiah spelled it out a coupla thousand years ago.
It's about a lot of things,...but as for the modern age, it's about current American politics.
Think what you want,.....justify it any way you want,...but John 8:42-47 told you how it is.
Some people will get it,....some people won't.
Those who are intended to "get it" will.
Those who don't,....well,....you're not part of the plan.
That's just it,....deal with it in the best way that makes you happy.
John 8:42-47 will tell you all you need to know about the situation if you got enough brains to decipher it,....and it ain't like you got to be a genius to do so.
It's been going on for a long, long, long time,......but the Messiah spelled it out a coupla thousand years ago.
It's about a lot of things,...but as for the modern age, it's about current American politics.
Think what you want,.....justify it any way you want,...but John 8:42-47 told you how it is.
Some people will get it,....some people won't.
Those who are intended to "get it" will.
Those who don't,....well,....you're not part of the plan.
That's just it,....deal with it in the best way that makes you happy.
That's all.
That passage nails it and speaks volumes. He that haveth an ear to hear, let him hear.
"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
