Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Who "hates" Jesus Christ the most? - Jews or Muzzies?

Okie, you're a [bleep] idiot. Why does anyone even listen to this guy? Is there a biggger moron on the fire than Okie?

I'll give you a clue, you illiterate dolt: Jews don't blow up children. Muslim's do. The latter lack a commitment to Judeo-Christian ethics. BTW, if you want a clue as to who hates Christians (and religious Jews) the most, try atheists you [bleep] idiot.

You're either an APAIC/ADL/hasbara shill or illiterate of history. Jews invented terrorism. Israel has declared war on the United States and has murdered not only American soldiers but ordinary Americans as well. An Israeli suicide bomber tried to blow up the US Capitol. And there exists substantial proof that Mossad murdered JFK.

This place is too frustrating. Bristoe, Ghost, TRH, Derby, and a few other authentic conservatives whom I have missed, you're stalwart opposition to the 'fire's neocons, liberals, & shills is commendable.

Godspeed.

schwing...

(that's yiddish for "thought so")

RWE,

Why the eff would you deviate from your MO of guessing? You ain't got a clue of factual information, so you remain loyal to your MO of making chit up.

Stick with it. There's no need for light of knowledge when the bag over your head makes you look almost presentable.

What rank have you earned in America's fifth column? Are you a private first class yet?

Yiddish? You speak yiddish? I shoulda known. Yiddish is the bastard language of Ashkenazi Jews,

This place is too frustrating. Bristoe, Ghost, TRH, Derby, and a few other authentic conservatives whom I have missed, you're stalwart opposition to the 'fire's neocons, liberals, & shills is commendable.

Godspeed.

Bristoe will hunt you down and kill you for grouping him with DD.

Either Jesus was a man of history or not. Either he was crucified or not. Sounds like the skeptics cannot agree among themselves. First Jesus is only recorded by Josephus and then another skeptic says that passage is spurious -- meaning there is no record at all. So which is it--is Jesus a man of history or not?

Celsus was a contemporary antagonist of early Christianity but he never disputed Jesus' existence or crucifixion--he only disputed the deity of Christ. The pagan emperor Julian wanted to take Rome back to its pagan roots and he derogatorily referred to Christians as Galileans. He never disputed the historicity of Jesus, he only contended that a Jewish carpenter could never be a god. Those critics had access to far more information of their times than we do. They could have investigated the Roman census and criminal records of Palestine. Their antagonism was based on their belief that this mere man Jesus was not divine, it was not based on the belief that He never existed or was never crucified.

Suetonias and Tacitus also speak of Christ.

Most skeptics I have dialogued with have a very minimal or selective understanding of early AD history. Skepticism concerning the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth is largely based on historical ignorance or refusal to accept the historical evidence.

However, the orthodox Roman Christian religion is a man created religion about Jesus rather than the religion of Jesus.

you must be stuck on some sort of misguided thought about orthodox roman church being the real church

the church is not
a denomination
a business
a building
a government
a official anything


the church is
people who believe in and follow christ

it was started with christ and not some hot shot a thousand years after christ arose

if I confess to being a jew will you all hate me and kick me off

Many here are de facto, watered down Jews coming from the dispersion of the 10 northern tribes, over the Caucasus mtns, then via northern Europe, to America, and are now commonly known as 'white folk'.

ymmv

There is the Church referring to the organization and there is the church referring to the building.

The Church I'm referring to is the the organized Christian Church.

The Roman Christian Church is the official Christian organization. Every other Christian sect is heresy and condemned by the Church. If the Inquisition was still active all you heretics would be condemned to the stake. You are lucky to be alive when you are.

As to Jesus, there is no evidence that Jesus established a new religion. Jesus was a devote Jew from what can be gathered from history. The religion of Jesus was Judaism. What sect is open to speculation although many scholars believe he was an Essene or even a Zealot. No where in any Gospels and I have read a lot of Gospels besides the official four of the Roman Christians does Jesus ever refer to his new Christian religion.

Christianity is a man made religion about Jesus.

Christianity was a small brotherhood that became a following by means of the Apostles developing a discipleship producing more Apostles that became an Institution.

The Roman Church is "Official" in their eyes only. QED

The name Jesus was a popular name at the time also there were many "saviors" at the time. Crucifixion was also a popular means of execution especially for treason. So there's no doubt that a "Jesus" was "crucified".

Still for all the threat Jesus supposedly posed to the Roman State and the Jewish hierarchy it seems there should be a ton of historical information out there and other than the Bible there isn't, only a mere mention here and there.

Personally, I don't doubt a Jesus was crucified. However, the orthodox Roman Christian religion is a man created religion about Jesus rather than the religion of Jesus.

All religions are man created religions about a God.

Before that Christianity was very disorganized with many different sects. Certainly Christianity was not an organized religion before Constantine.