Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Full Infiltration of California Dept of Fish & Wildlife by "Environmentalists"

Or just become outlaws.

Yep. Oregon is only too eager to follow big brother to the south. Lead bans are already being "discussed," which means we're well passed talking about it.

Two different friends of mine spotted wolves in the last two weeks-------------from the INTERSTATE. I'm sure we've got it all under control.........

One of the most fundamental ways the liberal environmental terrorist groups fight hunting and hunters is to ban any hunting of predators, give protections to them, and introduce large predators back into the formula, such as wolves and grizzlies.

That pretty much takes care of the game animal populations to the point they will not sustain the predator numbers in the future.

It also adds ranching as a target, and those living in rural America.

Civil disobedience is about all that can be used to combat insane legal persecution by the environmental terrorists.

I was randomly surveyed by ODFW (drawn from hunting license) on my feelings about lead-free ammo. After the yes, no, maybe questions, there was a comments section where I unloaded on them. In short I explained just what you said, and told them if they don't start looking at the hunters as their allies and first priority and quit pandering to the anti-hunters they'll be out of business in a generation or less. Between mismanaging the resources and going broke doing so, they're going to lose the interest of both the next generation of hunters and those who are currently trying to hang in their while watching their sports attacked.

I'm sure the surveys were screened by environmental terrorist "volunteers" so my rant never made it to the appropriate person who would have also ignored it, but I felt better having an official venue to speak through.

same here rattler, I've noticed a marked departure in AK from fish n feathers officers of days gone by.


like Sal mentioned in the old days you felt like you were meeting with a fellow sportsman that was out there to make sure slobs weren't ruining the sport for the good guys.


these days contact with a F&G officer in the field is more reminiscent that you are the enemy and really have no bizness out there killing their game.

the staff in the local office still seems friendly, but "some" of the guys that you run in to in the field just make you want to bitch slap them for their arrogance and condescending manner


it's a shame, but it's happening in more places than CA

This is a pattern of employment that is followed by not only the state level wildlife departments, but with agencies such as USFG, USDA, Forest Service, & BLM.

I had rare insight into the future hires with some events I attended where the Forest Service "interns" were present.

In person, they were VERY liberal, and very vocal about the changes they hoped to make.

They have BS degrees, or master's degrees in things like "Environmental Science"... and most were on government student loan programs to get the degrees.

Who do you think the agencies have been hiring for years now?

After years of hiring these liberal "qualified" idiots, when the ones that do operate with common sense and experience reach retirement age... who do we think is replacing them in the more powerful positions within those agencies?

KW...

Not true... lol.

British Columbia has all that too.

I have traveled thru Cali. and was struck by the similarities.

However the population of Cali. is bout equal to the entire pop. of Canada!
We don't have the massive city pops that southern Cali has.

I am sorry for ur loss tho. Its changing here too.

Too many "libtards" city dwellers making policy or changing it to fit their agendas.
These are people too long away from the "land" and have lost that side of life's reality.

Gawd we think alike 2_2...

Actually this stuff is going on everywhere in our nation. To think otherwise shows stupidity. Obama has appointed ultra liberals into EPA, and Fish and Wildlife, etc, and it sure just wasnt CA who voted Obama in. You can rant and rave all you want, but the fact is, in all farming and rural parts of CA, we have a conservative base. No we dont control the cities, but neither do most of you in your states. Geographically, I bet CA has far more country that is concervative than many others.......This is that time favorite BS, slam CA. And for god's sake, don't stand and fight, just run like a coward to somewhere else in the world.

Laffin.........

Sal,

I truly empathize. You, without a doubt are one of the good guys here on the Fire and while it's easy for someone else to say you should just move, we all know it's not always that easy. Although Kalifornia is rather transparent, I used to think if I had to move Colorado would be at the top of my list. The last couple years have opened my eyes to that live of thinking!

It truly is a way of life under siege, and each and every one of us needs to "lean in" to steal a phrase. The other side is unrelenting whether it be through environmentalsin the F&G world or greenies in the school system. The sad part is folks like us are the hard working, God fearing, law abiding that should be considered the good folks instead of being made out as the bad guys.

Good luck, you're always welcome here.

Indeed and a crying shame. Alaska brown shirts are pretty special.

Guys, all Im really trying to tell ya, as an old man so to speak, you cant run forever, we have to stand and fight for our rights everywhere in our nation.

Our boarders are overrun from Mexico, which pi sses me off to no end, but the democrats, and if you are a democrat, sc rew you, dont care, because they look at all the illegals as new votes.

AND THAT MY FRIENDS IS PRETTY PATHETIC OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
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