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Push a match bullet to 3850???

Yeah, I'm sure that will turn out fine for you...(head shaking)...

As they say, common sense isn't common. I hope a critter doesn't end up suffering as an unwilling participant in your little "experiment"

Thank you. I hope things go well for you this year, also.



Me too. But it's not an experiment. Others already use it with success. I killed a deer one time with a .300 Win Mag firing match bullets. It was spectacular. Despite a perfect behind the shoulder shot the near side scapular went thirty to forty feet in the air. The exit wound was at least 4 1/2" and maybe 5" across. One could see shinny bits of lead core throughout the expansive wound. That was certainly messy.

By the way, welcome to the 'fire.

Ringman,

With the round you're working with and the velocity, I'd check out Matrix. They have 6.5 mm 150 gr./160 gr. VLD's and also have bonded hunting bullets.

The heavier, slower and higher B.C. bullets may out perform the hyper vel, lighter bullets at LR.

DF

Dirtfarmer,



I followed one of ironeagle_84's link and ordered some yesterday. Thanks for the positive reinforcement. Although I excel at ignorance, with the help of my .com friends I may do something right. The Leupold VX-6 4-24X52 I have is something someone here recommended. It sure seems better than either the Bushnell 6500 during day and the Swarovski z5 in low light. The Talley rings for it and the Swarovski came from a suggestion here.

But here is something for those who don't know about it yet and want to reduce weight on a lightweight build. MicroCell recoil pads are really light. The 1.26" model weighs 2.9 ounces! The 1/2" model weighs somewhere under two ounces. I bought them from Hastings. Phone" (717)524-5301

They have VLD's and they have bonded. Not sure they're the same.

You may want to give Marshall a call and pick his brain.

DF

Judging by the case capacity, the new round will gain 95 fps or so over the 26 Nosler. Will be a long ways from 3850 with a 123.

You don't know how I load.

Enlighten us.

oh you have missed his bragging bout using top end loads as his starting place? so long as the accuracy is there he doesnt seem to care what pressures are cause FPS tops all.....

Well, except accuracy. If the bullets fired from my guns are not fast and accurate, they get a new barrel.

Like I just posted on another site, there's SAAMI pressure limits, and then there's the Fire pressure limits...

DF

Here is a man who is ahead of the pack! One of the other wildcatters here claims 3,700 feet per second with a 140 grainer. I am concerned about opening up the bolt face that much to accept the .300 Norma case, so went with the RUM case. His wildcat neck length is better than mine, though.

Here is a fun little thought. There are no SAMMI specs for wildcats. At least we don't establish max loads the way P.O. did: Increase powder till you blow a primer and then back off a grain.

Use JB's "rules" and see what you come up with, comparing your case to the 26 Nosler and 7 Ultra (i.e. rounds that have actually been pressure tested and not random wildcat internet numbers).

So now you're comparing yourself favorably to Ackley?

Did you run your cartridge through Quick Design? Did you do anything other than just guess, using a reference to a random internet wildcat load as basis for what velocities your round would achieve?

I recall that's basically what you did with the 257 SLR. Used an anonymous post on Reloader's Nest as the basis of where you thought your round would be for velocity. Strangely enough, it didn't work! Pretty silly way to go about things considering the tools we have at our disposal these days. But it's your money to spend, and your face to blow off if the gun lets go.

Pass the High BC bullets from 2850-3100 please.

Tanner

The Bible says a live dog is better than a dead lion.

How 'bout a high BC at 3,500 feet per second? It not as fast as a 6.5 Prometheus, but it will still have less wind drift than something traveling 3,100 feet per second.

Do you think people will be shooting your cartridges long after you're gone too?

Next thing, you'll be saying that all you need is a .308 and a "target bullet" to kill elk out to 500. Or some stunt shooter will chime in about a 260 using half the powder and killing elk out past 600.