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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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...a 28 Nosler has been announced to be the be all/end all of 7mm cartridges.


As far as SAAMI cartridges go, wouldn't the 7mm RUM still be the king of the roost?

The 28 Nosler would probably be more efficient, especially with all the new powders now available. And performance shouldn't be too far behind the bigger round.

With a 3.34" COAL round in a 3.6" box mag, one would have a lot of bullet seating options with sleek, heavy for caliber LR offerings.

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I like the idea of being able to seat them out on a 700.....

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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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Originally Posted by cra1948
...a 28 Nosler has been announced to be the be all/end all of 7mm cartridges.


As far as SAAMI cartridges go, wouldn't the 7mm RUM still be the king of the roost?

The 28 Nosler would probably be more efficient, especially with all the new powders now available. And performance shouldn't be too far behind the bigger round.

With a 3.34" COAL round in a 3.6" box mag, one would have a lot of bullet seating options with sleek, heavy for caliber LR offerings.

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I like the idea of being able to seat them out on a 700.....

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Yeah, 700 std. mag. actions have a 3.6" full length mag. box.

My 26 Nosler is built on a 7RM action. It takes some smithing to alter the std. mag. action to accommodate the Nosler round. It will need a RUM box for three down and the rails will need to be opened up to clear the fatter case.

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Yea I still think a 7.62x63 mm would be the ultimate, especially with a 180 gr bullet.


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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
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I get a kick out the guys that bitch about new cartridges. Like they somehow invalidate their pet rounds..
I have no issues with new cartridges. I have not seen where this new introduction will be any different, much less superior, than the 7RUM.

Have you seen the dimensions?

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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by War_Eagle
Originally Posted by cra1948
...a 28 Nosler has been announced to be the be all/end all of 7mm cartridges.


As far as SAAMI cartridges go, wouldn't the 7mm RUM still be the king of the roost?

The 28 Nosler would probably be more efficient, especially with all the new powders now available. And performance shouldn't be too far behind the bigger round.

With a 3.34" COAL round in a 3.6" box mag, one would have a lot of bullet seating options with sleek, heavy for caliber LR offerings.

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I like the idea of being able to seat them out on a 700.....

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Or a Winchester Model 70.

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That`s a dirty trick..


I know, you think it need a 17.5deg shoulder? Right? Ok, ok we shorten to 51mm case.


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Does a M-70 7RM std. mag. action have a 3.6" mag box like a 700?

A 26 Nosler case will pass between M-70 rails, unlike a M-700.

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I'll try to find an ultramag action for a donor.

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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
I'll try to find an ultramag action for a donor.

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That'll work.

But, an Ultra donor may be harder to find than an old shot out 7RM BDL like I used for my Nosler project.

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When Nosler figures out how to AI a .22 LR I will genuflect in their general direction.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Does a M-70 7RM std. mag. action have a 3.6" mag box like a 700?


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Yes...if you punch out the magazine block....or buy a new H&H box. On the CRF you have to change or modify the bolt stop and ejector as well. This sounds complex but it's easy to do this stuff.

What's the OAL of the 28 Nosler cartridge?

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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
I'll try to find an ultramag action for a donor.

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I have one.

Should I, or not.

Nosler brass for these rounds are too high $$$$. I think they are shooting them self in the foot. Around $66.00 for 25 pcs.

I think I would rather have a 7-mm Rem. Mag. If I was in the market for a new 7 or a Wby.


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Originally Posted by Hammerdown


Nosler brass for these rounds are too high $$$$. I think they are shooting them self in the foot. Around $66.00 for 25 pcs.



WHAT!!!??? That's nuts. Screw that. One of the reasons I dumped the 7mm Dakota.




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The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Originally Posted by BobinNH
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Does a M-70 7RM std. mag. action have a 3.6" mag box like a 700?


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Yes...if you punch out the magazine block....or buy a new H&H box. On the CRF you have to change or modify the bolt stop and ejector as well. This sounds complex but it's easy to do this stuff.

What's the OAL of the 28 Nosler cartridge?


That's all the same stuff I did for my old XTR 7mm Rem Mag to get to 3.6". Pretty easy stuff, and all that I paid for was the H&H follower, spring, and shortened bolt stop.. Pretty easy to get 3.6" in the M70..


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The COAL of the 26 Nosler is 3.34" and I would think the 28 would be the same or pretty close, designed to work in a 3.4" std. mag. box.

I agree about the cost of the brass. I formed .240 Wby brass from W/W 25-06 cases, turning fifty cent cases into buck and a half brass.

Now, I'm paying over two bucks a case, even with blem stuff from SPS. Don't guess I can complain about Wby. brass prices any longer...

But, this Nosler brass is high quality, nicely prepped and ready to go. So, that's gotta be worth something...

Is it worth $2+ per case? Not sure about that. But, some big 7's necessitate forming brass, etc. This is definitely better than that, IMO.

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DF: Case forming is easy and occupies idle time smile

Someone new at the Big 7 game should look at this cartridge but I for one am not going to sell what I have to get one. wink




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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DF: Case forming is easy and occupies idle time smile

Someone new at the Big 7 game should look at this cartridge but I for one am not going to sell what I have to get one. wink

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For hard core Loonies, that's a fact.

For the semi-Loony or non-Loony, this option may be mo better...

With Nosler's marketing power, this big 7 will probably be a success. They can out market Dakota and the custom house big sevens, IMO. They'll turn the fringe into main stream, just by the power of their market position.

I know it's a crowded field with the 7mm RUM, STW and others. The .264 field wasn't as crowded, giving the 26 Nosler more wiggle room than the 28 Nosler. But, just hide and watch this one play out...

I could be wrong, but wouldn't bet the farm on it...

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Does a M-70 7RM std. mag. action have a 3.6" mag box like a 700?

A 26 Nosler case will pass between M-70 rails, unlike a M-700.

DF

A model 70 in 7mm mag has a spacer in its magbox. The first thing I do when I get a model 70 is to remove this spacer. With the spacer removed it's 3.6"+. And as you mentioned it will handle a ultra mag type case just fine without the rails being altered.

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