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My brother in law's buck he shot back in 2006....same bullet. If I remember right, it was around 300 yards. This one came out on our backs. Remote section of the Missouri Breaks.
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Large, mature mule deer buck I took with my Surgeon .308 and one 155gr scenar at 514 yards about five years ago. He was chasing a doe and was unaware of me. I waited for the perfect shot, hitting him through the ribs. He went less than 50 yards. The bullet exited. Must be one of those Canadian bucks that got lost. Great looking deer!
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I still like those bucks that come out in backpacks.
Means I was hunting some good country.
With good bullets and someone who can shoot, the little ol' .308 is capable of more than most will credit it with. Easy to shoot and easy on barrels too - so a guy can actually shoot it enough to get good, real good!
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+1...on both the backpacks and .308's!
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I have often wondered if it was tumbling as well after I saw this cutaway but it seems penetration is to consistent.
Hunt hard, kill clean, waste nothing and offer no apologies.
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This thread makes me want to try the 155 scenar in my 1:12" 300 saum...
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My pal Don with a mule deer buck taken with his 30/06 and a 155gr scenar. This buck was less than 100 yards and was hit broadside, behind the shoulder. He ran maybe 50 yards before piling up. There was a good looking exit on the off side. What load is he using with the 155 Scenars in his '06?
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What I recall he suggests for loads in the '06 is H4350. Start at maximum, and load down until you find an accurate load. Going to try that in the reverse order myself. I'm also going to try Ramshot Big Game the same way. E
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Loaded up a batch in the 300 H&H this week. Be another week till I can hit the range. Will try some 100 gr GS Customs in the Kimber bob. My Rem 700 CDL SF Bob loves the load.
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What I recall he suggests for loads in the '06 is H4350. Start at maximum, and load down until you find an accurate load. Going to try that in the reverse order myself. I'm also going to try Ramshot Big Game the same way. E Never said start at maximum.
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Too bad they don't make a 7mm!!
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I worked up a load for my Gen 1 Ti in 30-06. I used cci 250's ww brass and h4350. Shoots right a 1 moa and clocks in 3030-3050 range from the 22" factory tube. I hoped to try it on something this year but knee surgery threw my season off.
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The Speers I use to hunt with are nasty. Shot a little doe that was good ways out there, they look alot bigger through a scope I must say and I was disappointed in myself, but meat is meat. Anyways, at about 150 yards it left a massive exit HOLE, not wound. I could have stuck my fist inside of it fairly easily. I think the Scenar would work fine, but other bullets might do a better job at shorter ranges. Still, this is the long range hunting section. Just my 2�.
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Pat,
You don't have some close up pics of that shooting rest, do you?
I'd like to make myself something like that.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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When looking over the Scenar 155 grain HPBT, I also saw a 155 grain HPBT-L..What is the difference..I would like to try a box of the bullets, but am not sure what the L stds. for..thanks...
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Yes, of course. One should always work up. I think your comments refered to finding the fastest, accurate load. My data indicates H4350 will push a 155 gr. bullet faster than any of the other powders and it provides a full case, etc. E
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My data indicates H4350 will push a 155 gr. bullet faster than any of the other powders..... E In a .308?? Tried any CFE yet?
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No, in the 30'06. I have no data for CFE powder. E
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When looking over the Scenar 155 grain HPBT, I also saw a 155 grain HPBT-L..What is the difference..I would like to try a box of the bullets, but am not sure what the L stds. for..thanks... http://www.lapua.com/en/products/new-products/2
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I Scenar'd this fellow earlier last fall. While punched through both lungs, he took a few minutes to die. Autopsy showed that it passed through with about a .8" exit - both lungs had same size hole in them and very little evident trauma. No ribs or other bones hit. (Impact vel. ~ 2300) I think a bit more velocity and hitting bone or thicker critter hide would be perfect. Probably use this bullet again this year outta a '06.
"You know why nobody panic buys 30-06 ammo? ... Because men with 30-06's don't panic"
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