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The battery in the combination keypad was dead, and a person in the store tried to pry the keypad off with a crowbar, which made it unusable even after the battery was changed. owner's manual addresses this, IIRC. Notwithstanding the lady was an idiot for crawling in, and the kids hellions for turning the handle to lock it, but don't store managers acquaint themselves with the products anymore? especially the bigger ticket items?
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I have never seen a safe in a store that wasn't either locked closed, open with the lugs out, and locked or, with the safety plugs in.
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Exactly.
And it looks like they had an entire parade of geniuses on that little scene...
Safe shouldn't have been open like that, kids always play with stuff...and some get injured real bad.
As for the firefighters, well maybe they never encountered the problem before, but they broke into the safe the hard way, and drywall dust.
Can be done with hand tools available at any hardware store, not power tools, 10-15 minutes and with the power equipment they have on hand it could go faster, but you do have to pick the right power tool...I wouldn't use a saw.
Maybe they'll think about it and figure it out, but likely never see the situation again.
Probably can't complain too much, they did get the job done, but they managed to make it look real hard...and that's probably good for the safe manufacturer...I'd send a rep out there and take some pics for the website.
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Maryland will probably try to ban gun safes now.
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It just have easily been a kid that got locked in. If all they lose is one crappy gun safe then TSC shoul consider itself lucky. Ahh, yes - it was all TSC's fault. Do you support yourself by spilling hot coffee on your lap and suing restaurants?
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Hmmm. I thought this was gonna be a thread about where travis keeps his dates
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I'm sure she was embarrassed beyond belief. Truth be told I bet you guys have done something equally as "stupid" I can't recall the last time I cost an innocent party upwards of a thousand dollars because of sheer stupidity. Cost a lot more than a 1000 bucks if all the departments billed their time.....
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It just have easily been a kid that got locked in. If all they lose is one crappy gun safe then TSC shoul consider itself lucky. Ahh, yes - it was all TSC's fault. Do you support yourself by spilling hot coffee on your lap and suing restaurants? I don't make the rules. I just call it like I see them. Your cute little comment makes my point.
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I guess she didn't go to Narnia like she thought
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Talk about a living nightmare.
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Gun safe snobs- only on the Campfire Yes the campfire where everyone is perfect in every way and have never done anything wrong.
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Gun safe snobs- only on the Campfire Yes the campfire where everyone is perfect in every way and have never done anything wrong. Mostly true, but there are some doubts about three or four members.
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Gun safe snobs- only on the Campfire Yes the campfire where everyone is perfect in every way and have never done anything wrong. Mostly true, but there are some doubts about three or four members. LOL
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This story reminds me of back when refrigerators and deep freezers had latching doors it had to be made law to remove doors/latches before discarding them as it was a fairly common occurrence back then that kids playing hide and seek or what ever were getting trapped inside and suffocating.
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Appears as though the store employee went into panic mode bashing in the battery/key pad.
Most of those display safes have a 123456..... Default passcode combo
But common sense should play into this too, momma told me never to play in the freezer, fridge, dryer, car trunk. Cause you might die.
Goes without saying. I know new commercial safes with mechanical combo locks are generally set-up from the factory with a simple default combination like 0-50-0 or 25-50-25.
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What I don't understand is the store has the master combination. Why the hell didn't they just unlock it.
That happened at our TSC 3-4 years ago with a kid, they got him right out.
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What I don't understand is the store has the master combination. Why the hell didn't they just unlock it.
That happened at our TSC 3-4 years ago with a kid, they got him right out. Apparently the battery was dead? I've not seen one of these safes so not know whether they have amechanical manual over ride or keyed over ride?
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I just bought a safe. There was one like it for display, I asked what the deal was. They said a customer closed the door and spun the combination. The combination was inside the safe, good and sound. I mentioned to the salesperson that not having the safe's combination would make it less valuable to me. She retorted we'll get it from the serial number. Still they didn't have it yet.
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What I don't understand is the store has the master combination. Why the hell didn't they just unlock it.
That happened at our TSC 3-4 years ago with a kid, they got him right out. Apparently the battery was dead? I've not seen one of these safes so not know whether they have amechanical manual over ride or keyed over ride? As others have pointed out, there was a whole series of dumbphuck moves that led to this 45-minute extrication. It's a lot like most catastrophes... one mistake won't cause one, but a series of little mistakes can make for a total charlie foxtrot. Should the woman who got locked up have done such a damn fool thing as to get inside the safe? Hell no, she should have been teaching her kids to respect store merchandise and not use it as a public playground. Should TSC have made sure the safe was "safe" against such an accident? Hell yes. Should they have had the combination handy? Hell yes. If the battery was dead, couldn't they have grabbed one of the batteries at the checkout stand, put it in, and opened the safe? Hell yes. And after some idiot disabled the lock with a crowbar, couldn't they have used less heavy-handed safecracking tools to get the woman out? Hell yes. But none of those things happened. In the end nobody got hurt, and everybody got a little egg on their face. Hopefully everyone involved learned something. Not a big deal, in other words.
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Once they gave up and started to forcibly break into the safe most likely the re-locker mechanism got tripped so they were SOL from there on out, regardless.
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