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Nothing I didn't know already, but interesting to see magazines pay attention to this chambering. Second article I have seen in the past half a year.

link?

No link. I get the rag in the mail.

Check page 14 also.. Article about the 1903 Savage 22.
Good article.

Steve

Don't know if is the article Sayak was talking about but I was able to find it on Shootingtimes.com.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammo/ammunition_top_loads_for_the_300_savage_010610/

That one's from 2011, I'm guessing there's a new one.

Yes, Shooting Times, April 2015 edition, P. 22-25. The last mag article was mentioned before on this site; Handloader October 2014, P. 46. The ST may not be out on the newstands.

If you'll notice, in the article that Chappy410 found, the article offered some reloads for the Remington 722... a bolt-action rifle.

I'd sure be CAREFUL about using those loads for reloads in a Model 99.

Ron T.

What is considered a safe pressure for the 99?

47,000 PSI according to SAAMI.

And those loads in the 2011 article look perfectly fine for 99's, but naturally start at the minimum and work your way up.

Does SAAMI determine a particular firearms safe #?

243 and 308 run about 60K. How's that all play out in the 99 if it's rated for 47K?

Since the Savage 99 was chambered in it's later years in .308 and .358 it would be logical to assume the action is safe with pressures in the 55,000-60,000 psi range. However, why even wonder??

One doesn't shoot the Savage 99 because it is the strongest or "best" action for high pressure loading. It is a GREAT rifle as far as accuracy, handling and being chambered in useful rounds, but is definitely NOT the strongest action for high power loadings.

Use it as it was intended and do not try to "hot-rod" it.

Well stated

The cartridge brass can fail at far lower pressures than the rifle.

So go ahead and hotrod it, but don't complain about case head separations or blown primers.

I haven't seen any "official" SAAMI numbers using PSI.

I Googled the .300 Savage Cartridge and here's the net site address: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.300_Savage

If you scroll down a ways, under PERFORMANCE, it sez: "Pressure level for the .300 Savage is set by SAAMI at 46,000 CUP.[8] The .308 Winchester operates at a higher pressure of 52,000 CUP, which is one of the basic reasons it outperforms the .300 Savage."


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.

On the following document, scroll down until you find "300 Savage" and look in the first column under the heading "Pressure Limits (psi/100)". It will say "470", multiply by 100 to take it from hundredths and you get 47,000.

http://www.saami.org/specifications_and_information/specifications/Velocity_Pressure_CfR.pdf


I've never found anything listing a PSI spec for 250 Savage, but the 300 is done.

Actually, Rory (aka "Calhoun")...

My handloads "loaf-out" at a chronographed 2635 fps, so I doubt that they're reaching the SAAMI's "maximum chamber pressure" of 46,000 CUP... and those handloads do a good job on deer if I do my part.

But you showed me something I didn't know and didn't see... very interesting.

Thank you, my friend...

Ron

Not sure I'm tracking. If the Savage 99 is a weak 47K rifle, but the brass is 60-62K rated (243/308) why would the brass fail first? Stretching due to flex in the 99 action maybe??

The only failures I've had were the rifle, not the brass, when run at too high of pressure in a 99, in 270 Titus.

Also, there's a 50%? margin built in to the rifle as shown in proofing, correct?

Only found that pressure listing a few months back, and since it's only 2 years old it may be new. But every other SAAMI spec I've seen for the 300 Savage was in CUPS.

My handloads with 180gr Partitions for 300 Savage are what most folks would consider seriously anemic at around 2320fps iirc, but with a shooting lane of under 125 yards the deer just keep dropping.

The 250 Savage pressure range is probably in the same ballpark of 47,000 PSI, but pressures don't really mean much for shooting or reloading. Watching velocity with a chrony and keeping an eye on the cases is far more useful.