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Scott, that is tough to wrap your mind around, but there it is! The heavier slower 110 grain TSX expands more and expands at longer distances than the 85 and 95 grain monolithic bullets which are as you would expect going faster! My experience of 1 with the 110 grain 30 caliber Vor-TX bullet at about 2100 FPS was clear the exit hole was bigger than any 22 caliber TSX or bonded bullet I had used in the 5.56, thru again both shoulders at sub 100 yards. very cool stuff! No doubt the 6.8 does more damage.
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Jimmy,
From his testing, he stresses kinetic energy over velocity. The best example is the 85 TSX and the 110 TSX both designed for the 6.8. They have the same nose cavity. The 110 TSX only needs about 1800 fps to open but the 85 TSX needs 2100 fps. At those speeds the kinetic energy about equal.
The 95 TTSX supposedly will open down to 1600 fps because it has a tip and a bigger nose cavity. When you compare it to the 110 TSX out to 300 yards it's pretty consistent. If you pushed it further, the 95 TTSX will likely perform better.
Also Hornady just came out with a 100 GMX for the 6.8 that will open down to 1600 fps to compete with the 95 TTSX.
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I will say this again, the 110 30 Cal Vor-TX is a real good bullet. Yes. It's built more like a pistol or muzzleloading TSX. Monstrous hollow point nose cavity with tip. Supposedly will open down to 1300 fps. The 95TTSX for the 6.8 is similar in design.
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What does kinetic energy have to do with terminal performance? In an Inelastic collision (which a bullet strike is) most of the KE is transformed into other forms of energy, mostly thermal.
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What does kinetic energy have to do with terminal performance? In an Inelastic collision (which a bullet strike is) most of the KE is transformed into other forms of energy, mostly thermal.
Damn it Jim, I'm not a scientist. I think this is specifically around the 85 TSX vs. the 110 TSX which has the same nose cavity. The 110 has more cushion for the pushin so it opens at lower velocities.
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I am thinking maybe momentum but I am not sure, heavier keeps going thru tissue and retains velocity better in tissue when launched at similar velocities. So maybe momentum - retained velocity creates work on the nose and opens it further.
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I believe the hollow depth portion of the TSX bullets are the same distance from the base of the bullet in all weights. The longer petals have more leverage to peal them back.
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Well placed 77 SMK's will knock the schit right out of 'em. Good regular 5,56 at 3150 don't leave a lot standing, either.
Go check how much they like Bricktop's .223 Hawkeye..
Just sayin'. It's all about hunting with what you like to carry and shoot, really.
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I killed a big sow with a 75 grain swift from a 16 inch barrel, she dropped at the shot. The 110 grain TSX at 2500 or so interests me.
What is the best powder for the 110 grain bullets in the 6.8SPC2???
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I've killed several hogs with a 22 LR, one can make anything work if need be.
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sorry I edited my reply above, what powder do you use for the 110TSX?
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Most people use A2200 but it's hard to find. I pretty much just use TAC which is a little slow but it works good enough with 110-120 bullets which is what I shoot. I use TAC for so many other rounds so it's easy.
I load mine out to 2.95 with the 110 TSX to get it closer to the lands. The 85 & 110 TSX has the ogive on the first band which is really unusual. 31.5 of TAC using SSA brass was good for 2575 wight eh 110 TSX out of a 16" barrel.
Barnes list 31 of A2230 on their website. I'm sure H335 would also work well with the 110 TSX.
I'd also recommend the ASC 15 round magazines. They are reliable and you can load bullets out to 2.32 vs 2.26. Gives you more room to work with since the 110 TSX has the ogive so far back.
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I think this will be my project for this year, I may have to buy a new scope as well.
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Never knew Barnes sold in 500 round boxes or in bulk. New one on me unless they could be blems or 2nds possibly.
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I just came back from Texas. While there I had a chance to try my ar in 300 blackout on hogs. I only saw one group but I hit 3 of them recovering two and the other made it to the brush. I was running 125g nbt's at 2250 fps. Pretty exciting running shots in an open field. I had a red dot sight. I can't wait to do that again sometime. I wouldn't mind trying a 450 bushmaster, 458 socom, or 50 Beowuf next time.
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Good job. Running shots may not have a thing to do with the round, more likely the placement.
Pigs generally are not hard to find once lethally shot. Even in brush.
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you recon a 110 grain Vor-TX at 2100 will equal a 62 grain TTSX at 2900
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Placement was less than ideal on the running shots. First shot on the first one was front shoulder and required two more to finish it. The first one really slowed it down though.
I'd use the blackout again on pigs. I like the little round. I've been running 110 vmax's at 2500 fps for rabbits and varmints. I threw together the 125 NBT loads right before heading to Texas because the nbt has a lot thicker jacket then the vmax. I also have some 125 accubonds loaded but didn't get an opportunity to try them.
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you recon a 110 grain Vor-TX at 2100 will equal a 62 grain TTSX at 2900 Dunno, I'd shoot em with my 223s and not even worry about anything...
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