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Flipflop doesn't understand the consequences of socialism. I'll bet he all for "The Affordable Healthcare" Act as well according to the line of reasoning he displays below.


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What if you *wanted* to pay extra to get your Netflix movies faster?
The point is, you shouldn't HAVE to. Everyone should already have the same speed. But the ISP's specifically degraded the speed of Netflix because they created competing services.


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Might as well give it up, Kevin. The anarchists here will never accept that any regulation is ever a good thing. They all seem set on overlooking the history of unbridled capitalism.
Hardly. Rather you and a few appear to be ignoring the collective history of obama and soros. I fear the latter more than the former.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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not reading the entire thread. but it is not constitutional just like most of what zero does. Should have been handled by Congress. Un-elected committee making law. I repeat unconstitutional.
This is the crux of it, and the danger, as precedent. There have been other examples, but it is easy to appoint people, and have them approve your wishes without going through the processes normally required for a law to be passed. You may agree with it, or disagree with it, but it is not the process required by the Constitution to make law. Any other argument is just on the fine points...

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If you like your internet....


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Do you really think those entities haven't weighed in on this issue?



Furnish some links and then you'll be able to drop the rhetoric.
Well if I do, you'll ignore them. But here you go.

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_law#Proposed_2014_US_FCC_policy

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Proposed 2014 US FCC policy

On 19 February 2014 the FCC announced plans to formulate new rules to enforce net neutrality while complying with the court rulings.[55] On 23 April 2014, in a press statement, the Federal Communications Commission announced their new proposed rules which would allow Broadband Internet service providers, such as Comcast and Verizon, the "right to build special lanes" with faster connection speeds for companies, such as Netflix, Disney or Google, willing to pay a higher price. Their customers would have preferential access.[3][4][56][57] On 15 May the FCC launched a public comment period on how FCC rulemaking could best protect and promote an open Internet,[58] garnering over one million responses—the most the FCC had ever received for rulemaking.[59]

The new proposed rules have received heavy criticisms, with many claiming they are ruining the internet. Opponents of the rules declared September 10, 2014 to be the "Internet Slowdown". On it, participating websites were purposely slowed down to show what they feel would happen if the new rules took effect. Websites that participated in the Internet Slowdown include: Netflix, Reddit, Tumblr, Twitter, Vimeo and Kickstarter.[60][61][62][63][64][65][66]

On 26 February 2015, the FCC ruled in favor of net neutrality by reclassifying broadband access as a telecommunications service and thus applying Title II (common carrier) of the Communications Act of 1934 to internet service providers.[11][67][68][69]


http://consumerist.com/2014/09/10/t...fk-worse-than-comcasts-customer-service/

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/technology/fcc-new-net-neutrality-rules.html?_r=0

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=APRIL+23+2014%2C+FCC+PROPOSES&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-002

http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/12/technology/fcc-fast-lane/index.html

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25635116/fcc-proposes-fast-lane-internet




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Originally Posted by GunGeek
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Might as well give it up, Kevin. The anarchists here will never accept that any regulation is ever a good thing. They all seem set on overlooking the history of unbridled capitalism.
Oh I don't expect to win anything, I do this for fun. I just love to see these guy's heads explode when someone actually thinks for themselves. With a small few exceptions, these guys arguing the other side have never had an original thought in their lives. They only know what the talking head tell them. They are NO different from the liberals they constantly criticize. Little unthinking drones. Just how the two parties like their followers.
That's really funny. laugh


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Originally Posted by ironbender


If you like your internet....
Statements like that are the tip off that you don't even understand the issue.

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I'd trust that a lot more than a backroom, secret committee coming up with rules that govern all of us.

There is no back room secret committe, you can read the 1934 Communications Act Title II law for yourself. Hell, we've lived it our whole lives.


No? Why couldn't we read the 300+ pages the committee ruled on beforehand?


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Might as well give it up, Kevin. The anarchists here will never accept that any regulation is ever a good thing. They all seem set on overlooking the history of unbridled capitalism.
Hardly. Rather you and a few appear to be ignoring the collective history of obama and soros. I fear the latter more than the former.


You should fear both, and use your head to discern which is in play and when.


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Originally Posted by GunGeek
Originally Posted by ironbender


If you like your internet....
Statements like that are the tip off that you don't even understand the issue.
Or that he does.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Originally Posted by RickyD
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Might as well give it up, Kevin. The anarchists here will never accept that any regulation is ever a good thing. They all seem set on overlooking the history of unbridled capitalism.
Hardly. Rather you and a few appear to be ignoring the collective history of obama and soros. I fear the latter more than the former.


Obama and Soros' support only erroded credibility for what was the right thing to do.

Set them aside for a minute and all your hate for them.

EVERY major tech company in the US was for this. The only one's who weren't were the ISP's who stood to make a killing off of what they proposed.

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The point is, you shouldn't HAVE to. Everyone should already have the same speed.


Same speed for the same low price. Each to his needs ect. Sound similar? miles


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Originally Posted by SockPuppet
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I'd trust that a lot more than a backroom, secret committee coming up with rules that govern all of us.

There is no back room secret committe, you can read the 1934 Communications Act Title II law for yourself. Hell, we've lived it our whole lives.


No? Why couldn't we read the 300+ pages the committee ruled on beforehand?
What does it matter? No new law was passed?

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Originally Posted by GunGeek
Originally Posted by ironbender


If you like your internet....
Statements like that are the tip off that you don't even understand the issue.


Look at China and how their Government rules the internet


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The point is, you shouldn't HAVE to. Everyone should already have the same speed.


Same speed for the same low price. Each to his needs ect. Sound similar? miles
So because Obama lied before, you refuse to even look into this issue. If Obama's for it, it must be bad and you're against it. That's the height of ignorance.

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Originally Posted by GunGeek
Originally Posted by ironbender


If you like your internet....
Statements like that are the tip off that you don't even understand the issue.

You're right.

The govt is here to help.

LMAO.


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EVERY major tech company in the US was for this.


And I am sure that they are looking out for the good of the American people and not trying to find a way to maximize profits. Any time the Government does anything, I cringe. Gridlock in Congress is a good thing to me. You can't make bad laws when you are gridlocked. miles


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Originally Posted by GunGeek
What does it matter? No new law was passed?


It's the same DAMNED thing with the ATF and ammo Kevin!

Yet you have a problem with that, and not this!

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Originally Posted by bea175
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If you like your internet....
Statements like that are the tip off that you don't even understand the issue.


Look at China and how their Government rules the internet
What on earth does that even have to do with this. Why can't you people understand that NO NEW LAW WAS PASSED!!!

It's the same regulations we have all lived under our whole lives, just applied to the internet.

Why are you so willing to screw freedom of speech and open commerce on the internet?

Either it's unbridled hate just because Obama said he was for it. Or you clearly just don't understand the issue. I say it's both.

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Originally Posted by FreeMe
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Might as well give it up, Kevin. The anarchists here will never accept that any regulation is ever a good thing. They all seem set on overlooking the history of unbridled capitalism.
Hardly. Rather you and a few appear to be ignoring the collective history of obama and soros. I fear the latter more than the former.


You should fear both, and use your head to discern which is in play and when.
Here's some discernment 101. Follow the money and when soros doles out 190 million, it's not because he's a nice guy who loves capitalism and freedom so much. It's to further his goals of hurting America, suppressing rights, and ushering in more solid socialism. Same with zero. And when zero says this is good, most know it's bad. Tell me the last time he told the truth and saying "this time", doesn't count.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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