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For anyone that goes the CZ route, I highly recommend calling Roy Bertalotto of RVB Precision (508-994-3644) and have him convert the exposed, rather ugly, drop down magazine to a more flush modern looking unit. CZ-527 Rifle Magazine Conversion
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I have the CZ 527 carbine and The Remington 799, both in 7.62x39.
I like the Cz more, much smoother action and a true Mauser action. The true Mauser action part is highly debatable.
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For anyone that goes the CZ route, I highly recommend calling Roy Bertalotto of RVB Precision (508-994-3644) and have him convert the exposed, rather ugly, drop down magazine to a more flush modern looking unit. CZ-527 Rifle Magazine Conversion Wow. Outstanding.
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I own one CZ527 and have blown the bolt face off twice, requiring new bolts. I have 98 Mausers and they don't seem to have that problem.
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Roy Bertalotto gave me help 15 years ago on the Yahoo gunsmith forum when I started rebarreling rifles. He is a stand up guy.
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I own one CZ527 and have blown the bolt face off twice, requiring new bolts. Imagine that
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Me thinks Clarkm loads'm a little hotter than you ever will. You should be ok with either.
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I'm VERY interested in the CZ. What's the ticket for handloads?
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The deal with handloads is that brass case heads have webs. If the web is not supported by the chamber, there is unsupported thin case walls. When the chamber opening on the breech face is chamfered or radiused for feeding, this cuts into chamber support. 30-06 type brass has a case web ~ 0.215", 223 and 7.62x39 are ~ 0.180" and 30 carbine ~ 0.170". My CZ527 is chambered in a 30 carbine based wildcat, and there are no pressure signs in a work up. There is, in what the log book for one gun design US army funded testing called "unscheduled disassembly."
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps
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I don't particularly care for any of the offerings currently available. If it were me, I'd just build to ensure I got exactly what I wanted.
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Clarkm - called "unscheduled disassembly." Now there is a nice turn of a phrase. Ranks right up there with "traumatic amputation". I purchased a Ruger M77 HE Compact in 762X39MM several years ago, along with a Mini Thirty. Added a Redfield 2-7X scope and it works just fine as a bolt action .30/30. Won't win any accuracy trophies for best group but I like it. Best of all...seems 762X39mm SP ammo is readily available. Just wish .22LR would show up too. Homesteader.
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I have the CZ 527 carbine and The Remington 799, both in 7.62x39.
I like the Cz more, much smoother action and a true Mauser action. The true Mauser action part is highly debatable. TC1 is definitely right. Controlled round feeding yes on the CZ, but the external box magazine would make Peter Paul Mauser belch loudly. If you want to compare, a Model 70 CRF action is closer to a Mauser action than is a CZ 527, but most people don't call a Model 70 a Mauser.
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What fresh Hell is this?
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Mart, You're right, sorry for the error. I'm sure now that the 7.62x39 was a M85. The store had 2 Zavastas at the time- a .308 which is the one I was primarily checking out that WAS labeled a m70, and an identical looking 7.63x39 right next to it that I guess I ASSumed was a M70 also. Thanks, John
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I have had a CZ 527 carbine in 7.62x39 for several years. I love it! 3"groups with junk surplus ammo but minute of angle with good stuff or reloads. It is a great product IMHO.
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I prefer a blind magazine. That mag sticking out the bottom is ugly.
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I prefer a blind magazine. That mag sticking out the bottom is ugly. I thought the same thing until I got accustomed to it. It doesn't bother me at all now.
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The mag, I could work around. The backward safety is too much.
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