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It's becoming more and more accepted. What say you? I've used it with stellar results on elk and antelope.




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Nope, not for me, YMMV.

Looking at the angle of the arrow coming in, that was not that close to a frontal shot, JMHO.

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I agree that particular shot didn't have the ideal angle, but it was obviously a frontal shot.

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It's becoming more and more accepted.

A phrase often uttered by those attempting to justify poor choices

I hear it a lot from the LGBT crowd too


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The cameraman wasn't even directly in "front" of the bull and the kid was well to the left of him. Say what you want, but even though it did the job it was a lucky hit, was not what you would call a classic "frontal shot" and I'd bet the kid was actually aiming for behind the front leg and blew it. Sometimes luck beats skill and IMHO this was certainly one of those times and that bull bled out so fast he didn't have time to decide what to do!

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Originally Posted by Snyper
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It's becoming more and more accepted.

A phrase often uttered by those attempting to justify poor choices

I hear it a lot from the LGBT crowd too


Go spend some time on Bowsite and watch dozens of highly skilled seasoned elk veterans promote the frontal shot. Guys with 30, 40, 50 elk under their belt. Until a few years ago I had the same opinion as you do.

I'm not trying to convert anyone, just letting people know about what I consider another good shot option, under the right circumstances.

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The odds are stacked well against you. So if you consider it fair, then its your call.

I've actually had it work but I can see how it would be easy for it to be only a wound most of the time and as such refuse to take it anymore with an arrow.

A bullet is another story.

Boils down to ethics, which means whatever you decide, is right. For you.

I'll shoot one in the hams every last time, rather than frontal.


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Curt Wells, editor of Bowhunter magazine also advocates the shot.

He ain't some unhinged crackpot without any hunting ethics.

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Originally Posted by rost495
The odds are stacked well against you. So if you consider it fair, then its your call.

I've actually had it work but I can see how it would be easy for it to be only a wound most of the time and as such refuse to take it anymore with an arrow.

A bullet is another story.

Boils down to ethics, which means whatever you decide, is right. For you.

I'll shoot one in the hams every last time, rather than frontal.


Say what?!!!

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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Curt Wells, editor of Bowhunter magazine also advocates the shot.

He ain't some unhinged crackpot without any hunting ethics.


There are a lot of guys in the TV media selling/promoting Long Range gun/scope outfits that are advocating 1000 yard shots on animals too, but it doesn't make it right!!!

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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
I agree that particular shot didn't have the ideal angle, but it was obviously a frontal shot.


You have asked for opinions, I'd call it a shot in front of the shoulder, with little to no chance of reaching the heart and lungs from that angle.

Had the neck artery been missed, I doubt we'd see a video.

YMMV

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You're right, I have asked for opinions, but I never said that I'd agree with them. grin


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NO on a shot from a bow,and to tell the truth I dont really like a frontal shot with a rifle.


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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
It's becoming more and more accepted. .





That's because shooting tame animals is more and more common.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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It's becoming more and more accepted. .





That's because shooting tame animals is more and more common.


Nah.

I've shot exactly two animals with the shot in the last 5 years... a raghorn elk in CO on public land and a Wyoming antelope buck on public land. They both went down within 20 yards.

I can assure you neither were tame.

Get educated on the shot before dismissing it outright.

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The odds are not in your favor just like previously stated and I would pass for another opportunity and a higher percentage kill zone shot, but that's JMHO on it.


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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Get educated on the shot before dismissing it outright.


I'm no stranger to it. It is a good shot for animals that you know are going to just stand there and let you shoot them.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Get educated on the shot before dismissing it outright.


I'm no stranger to it. It is a good shot for animals that you know are going to just stand there and let you shoot them.


Is there anything more twitchy or quick than a pronghorn coming into a public tank?

15 yard frontal, down in 20. Dressed and on ice in 30 minutes.

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No sweat off my balls. People take risky shots all the time and sometimes they get lucky. Whatever floats your boat.


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Well, abit of a tough crowd.

This forum is just a tiny pimple on the ass of the real archery discussion forums though. Go to AT or Bowsite for a more rational discussion of this particular shot...if youre just lurking.

I'm taking my ball and going home.

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