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Originally Posted by antlers
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And few have anything to do with genetics. Genetics and Biology are opined to affect thought process but are NOT conclusive.

Fully 40% of those studies deal 'directly' with genetics. Genetic and Biological evidence, as shown by these studies (and countless more) certainly is supportive of sexual orientation being influenced by not only environmental factors, but also by genetic and biological factors...and likely others.


Those studies and hundreds more merely suggest the possibility. These studies have more to do with the physiological makeup of the brain and only suggest that genetics may play a role.

As you admit, there are no absolutes. None.


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Okay. Would it then be too much to ask not to confuse Christianity with medieval Catholicism...not that you specifically did it but it is done all the time when people want to point out how "dangerous" we are.


It's a cautionary tale of what happens when religion has the power. Of course there are more modern examples of this today in the Middle East.


Well in that case, I suppose the Soviet Union is a cautionary tale of what happens when atheists have the power.


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Anybody consider the Great Enabler?

Man's predisposed to sin, no denying HE has a huge propensity to rebel against any and all authority FROM BIRTH. We have to teach our kids to BEHAVE, but ironically not to MISBEHAVE, that's inherent. So they're predisposed to go against God, and parents. We have an enemy that is more than happy to enable this attitude. Without proper protection and spiritual understanding from parents, a kid is an easy mark for Satan.

What makes any of us think we can understand all that occurs in the spiritual realm for our souls? The Bible says Satan is the great accuser, and that he roams the earth as a lion looking for whom he may devour. Do you think that means nothing? He aims to take us out, as many as possible. Why wouldn't he target people for homosexuality? Look at ISIS, pure evil, and murderers of anyone that gets in their path. Do you think that's random? It's spiritual.

Maybe the reason the scientists can't find a pattern to explain why one becomes gay while another doesn't is because they're not looking in the right place.


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All of the empirical evidence militates against a conclusion of physiological or genetic determinism (as with the color of a person's eyes). The more likely explanation is a complex interplay between environmental and physiologic factors. Sociologist Stephen Goldberg wrote an excellent chapter on the state of the evidence more than a decade ago, but its dated. The bottom line though is this: anyone can become a homosexual; no one has to become or remain one. If genetics play a role, it is not a determinative causal role. In other words, regardless of any genetic "pre-disposition" no one will become a homoseuxal without the necessary, facilitating environmental conditions. But another way: physiological conditions (in utero, genetic, etc.) are necessary but not sufficient to explain male homosexuality.

Female homosexualit is an entirely different phenomenon and has mostly to do with rejection by important male figures (usually the father or a father figure) in important, formative phases of a girl's development. Also, much of female homosexuality is nothing more than sexual experimentation.


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by 1Deernut
And few have anything to do with genetics. Genetics and Biology are opined to affect thought process but are NOT conclusive.

Fully 40% of those studies deal 'directly' with genetics. Genetic and Biological evidence, as shown by these studies (and countless more) certainly is supportive of sexual orientation being influenced by not only environmental factors, but also by genetic and biological factors...and likely others.


And scientists gave us global warming as well.......


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Originally Posted by 1Deernut
Those studies and hundreds more merely suggest the possibility.

They do more than that. They 'support' the likelihood. And like 'all' scientific research, they gather data systematically to add to the body of scientific knowledge regarding the nature and properties of things in our world. In this instance, it's human sexual orientation and it's development and determinants.

Your verbatim statement was "Genetics and Biology is not a factor and no study has supported this"...and 'that' statement is patently false.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by antlers
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And few have anything to do with genetics. Genetics and Biology are opined to affect thought process but are NOT conclusive.

Fully 40% of those studies deal 'directly' with genetics. Genetic and Biological evidence, as shown by these studies (and countless more) certainly is supportive of sexual orientation being influenced by not only environmental factors, but also by genetic and biological factors...and likely others.

And scientists gave us global warming as well.......

And liners accelerators, and spaceships that can land on other planets, and controlled nuclear fission, and handheld devices with which you can access global information immediately through the airwaves, and countless other innovations that make all of our lives infinitely better on a daily basis.


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Originally Posted by RJY66


Well in that case, I suppose the Soviet Union is a cautionary tale of what happens when Marxist have the power.


Fixed it for you.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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There's a difference between science for discovery and science with an ulterior motive.

When there is an ulterior motive true science rarely wins.

Truth be known the only part that bothers me is the in your face schit and the dishonesty that accompanies. Ya wanna be a rump ranger go ahead, not my business, but when you want to shove it in my face indoctrinate my kids in the name of tolerance it becomes my business period.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
but when you want to shove it in my face indoctrinate my kids in the name of tolerance it becomes my business period.


I'm sure they can't help it, they were born that way. crazy


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Da Homo's had better start thinking about buddying up to us Christians as we'll be the only ones to save their asses from the Muzzies!

Muzzies kill'em every day of the week.


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If my wife dies before me, I'm gonna be gay.


I like to fish and hunt. I like old trucks, motorcyles and jeeps. I don't like long walks on the beach. I own my house outright, I only have $3726.36 on my truck and I will be debt free. I have a great sense of humor and like having fun. I'm 42 y.o. I'm 5'10" with redish brown hair, hazel eyes and am built like a brick $hithouse.

PM ME!


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Originally Posted by gunner500
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Originally Posted by seal_billy
Originally Posted by ltppowell
If my wife dies before me, I'm gonna be gay.


I like to fish and hunt. I like old trucks, motorcyles and jeeps. I don't like long walks on the beach. I own my house outright, I only have $3726.36 on my truck and I will be debt free. I have a great sense of humor and like having fun. I'm 42 y.o. I'm 5'10" with redish brown hair, hazel eyes and am built like a brick $hithouse.

PM ME!


You will be getting Email from Gunner real soon, wanting to know where to meet


SHHHHHH! I'm already meeting Dirtfarmer for lunch tomorrow. blush


Damn..........


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Originally Posted by seal_billy
Originally Posted by ltppowell
If my wife dies before me, I'm gonna be gay.


I like to fish and hunt. I like old trucks, motorcyles and jeeps. I don't like long walks on the beach. I own my house outright, I only have $3726.36 on my truck and I will be debt free. I have a great sense of humor and like having fun. I'm 42 y.o. I'm 5'10" with redish brown hair, hazel eyes and am built like a brick $hithouse.

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Megyn Kelly on Foxy news says that the owner of the Pizza place the gay mafia shut down in Indiana has received $380,000 in donations from a go fund me account.


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