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Since I'm not a guy who's been in a lot of dust-ups ...

Agreed.

A man with a 1911 in a Milt Sparks holster on his hip is going to be toast if he's late recognizing the threat in the two teenage kids walking toward him.

But if the guy is able to get his hands on you, you still need to skills to retain and draw you weapon so you are able to put 2 in his guts.

Have you considered what that might look like?

shooting them in a pro active manner has come to be frowned on these days.

Interesting thing happened last Tuesday in a State Park on the Minnesota Wisconsin border. Fisherman on both sides of the river were insulting each other for three hours.
Finally a father of five and wrestling coach drove to the other river bank in order to teach a young man some manners.
The young man pulled a knife and stabbed the older man to death. Lots of sympathy for the five fatherless children.

Interesting thing happened last Tuesday in a State Park on the Minnesota Wisconsin border. Fisherman on both sides of the river were insulting each other for three hours.
Finally a father of five and wrestling coach drove to the other river bank in order to teach a young man some manners.
The young man pulled a knife and stabbed the older man to death. Lots of sympathy for the five fatherless children.

I ascribe to the following theories:

1. Age and treachery overcome youth and skills

2. Only a fool fights fair

3. Survival by any means necessary

4. In a fight be the dirtiest player in the game

5. Peace thru superior firepower

Ruh-roh!!!

But seriously, I've enjoyed reading the replies from all and sundry. Since I'm not a guy who's been in a lot of dust-ups, it's educational to read what some more experienced members have had to share.

But I've had a good bit of LE defensive tactics training, and learned early on that I'm not good enough at it to survive a serious fight with an opponent who is more skilled and stronger than I.

The only exception to this rule was at a LE conference after my first divorce, where I got into a lively discussion with a ginger-haired female defensive tactics instructor who kept trying to rassle with me at the bar. Eventually I had to cry "uncle" and take her up to my room, where we rassled to a mutually satisying draw. It was without a doubt my most enjoyable defensive tactics lesson ever.

A ginger haired female defensive tactics instructor?

SHWING!!!


mike r

100% I was a bouncer for 5 years in my early 20s, i learned real quick to judge who was bluffing and who was really a bad dude.

JCM: For the last ten yrs. in Corrections I was a Firearms Instructor; Well versed in the use of the four firearms used by the Dept. I first carried a .40 cal. G-35 w/G27 B/U. Now I choose a Series 80 SS and still carry the G27 in a GALCO SOB.
With 15 years in the prison environment, one learns to read body language, and the same goes for the street. Not always on top of everything, but when I go to the city, it's with my neighbor and we watch each other's back. Cols. is not getting any better, and I'm ALWAYS in Condition Orange/Red when on the street. With a loose outer shirt the IWB/Gov't model is virtually undetectable.
SHERP: You can't just go 'round pulling your sidearm whenever you feel threatened and I'm damned sure not going to jeopardize losing my Peace Officer certification doing something like that, but as I said earlier...If immediate threat is eminent I will react accordingly.