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For North American game excluding big bears.
Is there anything it does that a say 270 or similar, smaller caliber, lighter recoiling rifle will not do?
What say you?
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180 gr 30-06 for elk in the timber is a match made in heaven.
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At least on deer I have not seen that the 06 does anything that is that much different/better/special than the .243, .25/06, 6.5 Swede,etc.
If anything the smaller, higher velocity rounds, at least in my experience, kill deer quicker with more instances of DRT than the .30/06.
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Back in the late 70's when I shot my first WT deer, I accidentally shot through a 6-8" diameter oak tree at a running deer. Killed it using a 180gr Sierra SBT in the old Rem BDL 700. Guess I got pretty lucky. Now I use a CZ550, 6.5x55 mostly. Even though I try not to shoot thru trees, it works very well.
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For North American game excluding big bears.
Is there anything it does that a say 270 or similar, smaller caliber, lighter recoiling rifle will not do?
What say you? Follow Rule #1 and you should be good with either.
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.30-06 = about perfect for almost all North American game.
That also goes for the .308, .270, .280, 7-08, and many others. A bullet from any through the lungs will have nearly identical results as any of the others, maybe with a bit less recoil.
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The 30/06 is a fine cartridge, but it has not done anything for me that cartridges with less recoil have not done just as well.
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The 30-06 with the 200 gr Nosler Partition will cover just about anything you want to hunt
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30.06 is very versatile for me. I can use it at distance, in woods, for heavy or light game, no premium bullet needed, plenty of barrel life, with not bad recoil, and all while shooting a .308 hole in things that tends to kill them quickly.
Only thing slightly more efficient is the 308 Winchester?
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Too much gun for game, probably not.
Too much gun for some shooters, probably so. Especially younger or inexperienced ones.
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From airplanes, light armored vehicles (wwI wwII and Korea) Africa to North America it has it covered.
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For North American game excluding big bears.
Is there anything it does that a say 270 or similar, smaller caliber, lighter recoiling rifle will not do?
What say you? I cut my teeth on a 30-06 and for a number of years, I thought it was the end all, be all cartridge. I'm still a fan, but I have learned there are smaller calibers with less recoil that do just as well if not better.
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They kick too much for their performance. They loose velocity faster than a .270. I don't see any value in a .30-06.
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Splendid cartridge for the dedicated rifleman or woman, especially if they are a reloader.
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The 30/06 is a fine cartridge, but it has not done anything for me that cartridges with less recoil have not done just as well.
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For North American game excluding big bears. Is there anything it does that a say 270 or similar, smaller caliber, lighter recoiling rifle will not do? Not in my experience. I think to see something more than, say, a 270 loaded with 150 NP's, would take more than one lifetime of hunting. And then, I genuinely believe you'd only see a difference with the 200 grainers in the 30-06, and then only occasionally. Maybe. I like the 30-06, but I like the 308 and 270 better. They recoil less and do the same thing.
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When I was buying my 1st rifle in the mid-70's conventional wisdom said 30-06 was middle of the road. Used one 40 years and I now say it is bigger than needed for 99% of American hunters. That does not mean it won't work and is very versatile, it is. But that is like buying an F-350 dually just to make runs to Walmart in the hopes that someday you MIGHT need to tow more than 5000 lbs.
If I never planned on hunting anything bigger than deer anymore I'd stay with a 243. One of the 6.5's should probably be considered middle of the road. Not too big for deer, and still capable of anything else in NA except big bears.
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For North American game excluding big bears.
Is there anything it does that a say 270 or similar, smaller caliber, lighter recoiling rifle will not do?
What say you? For non-reloaders, cheaper plinking ammo may be the most important feature of the .30-06. We just bought a lefty rifle for Daughter #1 to use on this fall's antelope hunt (her third) and elk hunt (her first). While I would have liked to get her a .30-06 or .270, we ended up getting her a .308 Win. I am not worried in the least that the .308 will be inadequate when compared to a .30-06. I will likely be using a .280 myself even though I have three .30-06's in the safe.
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