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I can imagine it not working on big deer Why? Insufficient penetration due to light weight and inadequate sectional density. Might be ok on the perfect behind the shoulder shot on a smaller deer, but it's just not a wise choice for general use. As I said before, though, I applaud the experiment and I hope the results are better than I would expect. Bullet construction is far more important than sectional density in regards to penetration. A 110 grain TTSX 30 cal would penetration significantly farther than an A-Max
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Some BR folks shoot 18 twist with the short bullets.
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I can imagine it not working on big deer Why? Insufficient penetration due to light weight and inadequate sectional density. Might be ok on the perfect behind the shoulder shot on a smaller deer, but it's just not a wise choice for general use. As I said before, though, I applaud the experiment and I hope the results are better than I would expect. That statement raises a red flag as in you haven't tried them on WT's. DF DF...dont waste your time on replying to DWG...hes trolling.
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Thanks, Poobah. You never know, live and learn... DF
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Some BR folks shoot 18 twist with the short bullets. Interesting. It's said (a bunch here on the Fire) that you can't over spin a bullet with fast twist. For hunting applications, probably a true statement. For fine, cutting edge precision, I guess some would not agree with that statement. Looks like they're custom twisting those tubes for light, short, very precise bullets. DF
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DF...dont waste your time on replying to DWG...hes trolling.
Larry Root again or one of the others?
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My Grandson's Mod 7 is in 30BR and it is a 16 twist and he uses 125 grain bullets. He has killed several deer, hogs, and 1 coyote. Only time it took 2 shots was the coyote. It is a very accurate rifle and he is a very patient hunter.
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I got some 130 gr. Ralph Council bullets for my '06 Husky, mostly because the gun is very light and I was looking to reduce recoil. The results were surprising. I've used the 130 gr. Hornady on WT's and performance was perfect. Ralph said his bullets are good on game, just haven't killed anything with them, yet. DF
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I got some 110 gr. TAC-TX's for my .300 Whisper.
I just loaded some for my .308. We'll see how they perform at 3,300 fps. They were made to operate at around 2,200 fps in the Whisper. Being monometal, they shouldn't blow up.
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I have tried them in the past just for fun in 30/06 308 and 30/30. All seemed pretty good...
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I have sent a lot of 110 grain bullets down range using the Blue Dot load from Rocky's old site in 06 and 308Win. They group on paper at 100yds very well. Some better than any of my bigger loads. Bullets range from 110 carbine RN from Sierra, A Max, Sierra HP and plain old cast lead. Some group better than others obviously. Mouse fart could be used to describe how they recoil compared to the bigger loads. No game experience with them but I can imagine any varmint having a bad day with one. As for 110 in deer I can see no reason why a 250 savage or 257 roberts working with the same weight bullet would be any different than a well constructed 110gr in a 308 at similar speed. I would like to find some time and stretch the range out on the paper with the 110s. Maybe this summer.
I used to only shoot shotguns and rimfires, then I made the mistake of getting a subscription to handloader.......
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Haven't used 110's in the .308 or '06, but know first hand how effective 130's are at the range and on WT's.
If a 130 blows thru a WT, then one doesn't really need 150 or heavier to effectively kill deer.
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Since I loaded up some 110 grain RN/Soft Points in the 06 of a friend's wife... behind like 25 grains of SR 4759...
each season she has been smacking a blacktail somewhere on their property, right off the front porch, usually when she sees one grazing out her window while washing the dishes or doing the laundry....
then she calls her hubby and tells him to come home early if he can... he's got a deer to gut out in the yard...
been doing the same thing with SR 4759 and even Unique for kids out of grandpa's old 30/30.... they work just fine in those also...
kids really like them when loaded with Unique...
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