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still looking for a 3" 1911 with full size grip (8-mag) and ambi safety.
the only one I'm aware of is the Kimber super carry ultra + , which I have (or more accurately the Kimber repair shop has had for the last 6 months).
any others out there?
thx
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it ain't a three inch barrel, but i am awful fond of the springfield champion with an ambi safety fitted.
the thing eats everything i have put in it. Have an extra heavy recoil spring and no issue with the heavy plus P loads.
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Colt made a Defender Plus or some such back a while ago that I believe is what you're looking for. I haven't seen one for sale in a while but I'm sure some digging could turn one up. Other than that I can't think of anything else besides your Kimber. Here you go http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=481040688PS. Ambi safeties are an easy mod, I wouldn't let lack of one scare me off a nice pistol that only had a strong side.
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Not a 1911 exactly but I've got one of these in 9mm and 40s&w. All steel, accurate, durable as can be. Ambi safety and the mag release can be switched around. Worth way more than the going price in my opinion. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=481788046
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That's a weird combination...kinda the worst of both worlds where CC carry is concerned.
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A suggestion, This gun is not a full size grip, but you can get a flush fitting 7 rounder for it, with one in the chamber, that gives you 8. An ambi-safety is easy to install. https://us.armscor.com/products/rock-standard-cs-45-acpMy RIA is utterly reliable, and superbly accurate
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still looking for a 3" 1911 with full size grip (8-mag) and ambi safety.
the only one I'm aware of is the Kimber super carry ultra + , which I have (or more accurately the Kimber repair shop has had for the last 6 months).
any others out there?
thx I thought "officer models" were 4"' at least my Colt "Officer" is. You can run an eight mag in any of them if so desired.
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my understanding (and it varies with mfg) in the 1911 nomenclature: govt= full frame, 5" bbl officer= usually full size frame, bbl 4-4.25" commander = small frame, bbl under 4" I'm looking for a full size frame, bbl under 4" 
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my understanding (and it varies with mfg) in the 1911 nomenclature: govt= full frame, 5" bbl officer= usually full size frame, bbl 4-4.25" commander = small frame, bbl under 4" I'm looking for a full size frame, bbl under 4" You have Officer and Commander reversed.
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my understanding (and it varies with mfg) in the 1911 nomenclature: govt= full frame, 5" bbl officer= usually full size frame, bbl 4-4.25" commander = small frame, bbl under 4" I'm looking for a full size frame, bbl under 4" Let's fix this... Govt is 5" Commander is ONLY 4.25", any different is something else, not a Commander. Officers ACP is 3.5", any different is not an Officer's ACP.
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but I don't want any of those Kevin!  I want a commander frame and an officer bbl ..... 
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I want a commander frame and an officer bbl ..... In Colt lingo, a Commanding Officer. Really. That's not a 3" though. Officer's are 3-1/2".
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but I don't want any of those Kevin! I want a commander frame and an officer bbl ..... Just putting the nomenclature right. You could have something custom built. I don't know if any such animal is made. Just seems like a very backward configuration, but the heart wants what the heart wants.
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A visual reference may help. Here are three Colts: Top: 5" Government Model (Full size frame, 5" barrel) 2nd: 4.25" LW Commander (Full size frame, 4.25" barrel) 3rd: Officer's ACP 3.5" (shortened frame, holds one less round, 3.5" barrel) ![[Linked Image]](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/P1000764_zpsvsisf3kc.jpg)
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Strange thing is I reoriented the pic on PB, but it came out 90 degrees...
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but I don't want any of those Kevin! I want a commander frame and an officer bbl ..... Backwards again. Get the 4"-4.25" slide/barrel on an Officer's frame. Sig makes a fantastic version.
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BTW Utah,
The barrel is often the easiest thing to hide, especially IWB, with the grip frame being the most difficult. Most experienced 1911 carriers will tell you that a 4.25 or 5" gun will carry more comfortably than a 3.5" one. My experience is that as well. The longer narrow slide carried inside the waistband will anchor the gun against your side and balances out quite nicely.
A somewhat popular variation is an Officer's frame, with a Commander length slide.
Best of luck choosing your new toy.
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BTW Utah,
The barrel is often the easiest thing to hide, especially IWB, with the grip frame being the most difficult. Most experienced 1911 carriers will tell you that a 4.25 or 5" gun will carry more comfortably than a 3.5" one. My experience is that as well. The longer narrow slide carried inside the waistband will anchor the gun against your side and balances out quite nicely.
A somewhat popular variation is an Officer's frame, with a Commander length slide.
Best of luck choosing your new toy. Listen to this man. He speaks truth.
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