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I shoot a 50 Knight Bighorn 295 Barnes TMZ with 110 gr T7 fff I do use the RWS musket caps, but am told the RWS #11 work great also (I have both, as sometimes I can't find one or the other) Beautiful expansion on my elk last year. 1 shot, DRT
I also shot the SST 300 gr. Was VERY accurate at 200 yards, 110 gr T7 FF. Didn't like the stories of expansion issues, so I changed to the Barnes.
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most MZ rifle loaded with 90-100 grains have less kick than a standard 12 ga. shot gun
she grew up grouse and quail hunting and during dove season will go thru a box of 12 guage so I see no problem with her shooting the .54
guess some may have prissy ladys for wifes !?? Well, considering that I was the only person to catch and ask about your wife shooting the .54, the veiled insult had to be directed my way. Mine is very pretty, but not prissy. As a good friend who has probably forgotten more about muzzleloaders than you'll ever learn puts it, "she's hotter than Hell and one of those rare ones that will f'k, fight, or hold the light". She shoots everything in the house and that has come through it, and that ain't a small list. As to the question: it was legitimate. .54s can rap pretty well on the shoulder end, and knowing what the shooter is used to and has used makes a lot of sense. I'll let you get back to figuring out a rifle you're unfamiliar with to then hand over to another shooter who is at least equally unfamiliar with the same, all the while beating your chest and knowing it all from the get go.
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All I have is a CVA panther carbine, 54 cal, 1-32 twist. no elk to it's name, but it has laid to the horizontal a cord worth of whitetails. imo, an elk would be no problem for it. i have tried to get a good print with buffalo bullets and all I received was a sore shoulder. cva had a conical called the deerslayer and with 80 gr. of RS pyrodex, its right on. lee has a 300 gr. that I would like to try.
Currently, I shoot 224 gr. hornady patched round balls, but I only use 60 grs. of RS pyrodex. I have found that the faster I drive that bullet with more powder, the faster twist of the barrel tears the patches to shreds and my accuracy suffers greatly on paper. But, with just 60 grs my accuracy is incredible at 50 and 100 yds. It blows half inch holes straight through deer scapulas and out the other side.
I would never suggest that load would work for an elk, but they are not bullet proof and if you can do your job with a ml you have confidence in they will hit the ground.
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You don't need more then 90 gr powder for any hunting of sort .most of the work an killing of animals was with 80 gr of eather 3 f or 2 f of all caliber 45 to 58
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You need more than 90 shooting long distances with light-to-medium weight sabots.
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90gr olde eynsford is my 200 yard load in my 58cal hawken. More than plenty, especially with sabots and conicals.
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90gr olde eynsford is my 200 yard load in my 58cal hawken. More than plenty, especially with sabots and conicals. It appears a 54 or even a 58 PRB would have less than 500FPE left after 100 yards with a 90gr load. http://www.namlhunt.com/traditionalmldata2.htmlhttp://www.namlhunt.com/traditionalmldata3.htmlThat sure would not be my choice for elk. I guess my definition of "more than plenty" is vastly different than yours.
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get some experience with patched balls and elk.
80gr pyrodex rs and a 223 grain round ball from a 54cal dropped my last elk from 148 yards with a single shot through both lungs.
FPE IMO matters when you are shooting modern bullets that need to expand in order to cause damage.
Whos willing to stand in front of a 58cal at 200 yards and take a hit just to show that a 9/16" diameter ball won't kill?
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So you have killed one or was it two with a PRB? One was a pretty small very young cow if i remember. Im sure your opinion is far more educated than Mr Bridges on this topic.
Your FPE opinion is laughable at best and your hunting ethics are even worse. Shooting a 148yards with that load didnt make you an expert, it made you lucky, appear desperate to fill your tag and unethical.
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small my ass LOL. 2 of us had to cut it in half in order to drag it down the side of a mountain.
Please get some first hand knowledge of how patched round ball kills, get a few balls under your belt and then come back and chat.
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Don't believe everything writers write A person that shoots game knows what it takes
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Exactly! Just like powerbelts are horrible for game.
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So you have killed one or was it two with a PRB? One was a pretty small very young cow if i remember. Im sure your opinion is far more educated than Mr Bridges on this topic.
Your FPE opinion is laughable at best and your hunting ethics are even worse. Shooting a 148yards with that load didnt make you an expert, it made you lucky, appear desperate to fill your tag and unethical. Bringing up a shill as a source is never a good way to go into an argument.
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Using a Richland Arms .54 for 34 yrs with round ball and 100g of P pyrodex. Shot everything from whitetail to fox squirrels to paper at the range. Tried other bullets but trees seem to get in the way. Round balls for me. Wish we had free range Elk around here.
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take up coyote hunting ...call em up and smoke em out
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small my ass LOL. 2 of us had to cut it in half in order to drag it down the side of a mountain.
Please get some first hand knowledge of how patched round ball kills, get a few balls under your belt and then come back and chat.
Hunt like you got your bow in hand with and Ace up your sleeve.... Then get the gut hook ready
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