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So leaving trucks for the moment, good post AGW, will a Ruger #1 sufficiently solve the COAL dilemma? That oft raised concern over magazine length and the long throat? Of course that doesn't mean acceptable accuracy will result but the chances are raised because you are in control of the COAL. Say AGW, what is a British "stalking rifle platform"? I have a red pad No.1A 7x57 with the long throat - a 160 Partition seated to touch the rifling uses less than 1/2 the case neck, but it works fine.
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So leaving trucks for the moment, good post AGW, will a Ruger #1 sufficiently solve the COAL dilemma? That oft raised concern over magazine length and the long throat? Of course that doesn't mean acceptable accuracy will result but the chances are raised because you are in control of the COAL. Say AGW, what is a British "stalking rifle platform"? I have a red pad No.1A 7x57 with the long throat - a 160 Partition seated to touch the rifling uses less than 1/2 the case neck, but it works fine. But...it closes the door on "need". That is a terrific combo. John
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Have or had one of the red pads like JGray tells of and it was a fine shooter also. My boy wanted to use it for a few days, about 10 years ago.
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I'll be loading for elk as that is all I seem to hunt. So debating whether I go 140's or 160's in Partition or Accubond. Compromise with 150's in a Partition? Elk can be from 50 to 350 yards, my personal limit. Maybe I should let the rifle tell me what it likes without much drama.
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The 150gn Partition can be driven at 2800fps in the 7x57. Such a combo covers most of what any hunter will ever do. John
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Thanks John. Its interesting to note that such an old "out of step" cartridge gets 14 pages of comments.
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"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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The 150gn Partition can be driven at 2800fps in the 7x57. Such a combo covers most of what any hunter will ever do. John Yep, last elk that came home with me was enticed to do so with that combination.
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Here is my 7x57. It is a T-99 Arisaka action with a surplus 7x57 LR Mauser barrel I bought in the white. The barrel had Israeli markings on it. I used a T-38 stock and made anything I could out of aluminum and titanium. The project started out as just a tough, super light, mountain rifle and somehow became the most accurate rifle I own. Last year before deer season I fired four shots on the 100 yard range. The 1st shot is always high (Dirty the bore)and the next 3 were great. Two holes intersecting and the third was in one of the other two holes. You could only see 3 holes out of 4 shots. I am getting old and am sure that this rifle shoots way better than I can. It has made me a couple bucks on the ranges over the years. The exposed metal is from years of rough use. The baked on aluminum paint is wearing off. I use Remington 7MM 150 Gr PSP bullets with 43.0 grains of IMR 4350 OAL 3.00. At one time I used Hornady 175 Gr RN bullets, but the 150 Gr bullets gave closer groups. 43.0 Grains is light, but I figure the accuracy overrides the speed. Every now and then I have to do a headshot in the laurel and logs.
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Yep, Rev. Your preaching, especially the 7x57 variety, is gaining a foot hold... DF
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No, not my preaching. There just seem to be quite a number of folks who still appreciate that old round and aren't ashamed to talk about it.
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No, not my preaching. There just seem to be quite a number of folks who still appreciate that old round and aren't ashamed to talk about it. Well, I was trying to give you the credit... DF
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I appreciate that...let's give the credit to ol' Ingwe.
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I appreciate that...let's give the credit to ol' Ingwe. He's not bashful... DF
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Isn't there a picture of him wrapped up with some dude in leopard skin? Nope, not bashful at all!
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Nope. Im headed to Tejas, Blackbuck and Axis. Sactoller is dragging his feet on getting the airlines to go direct to Windhoek... Almost got it set up....Just working on all the scantly clad women on board! I did pick up 2 7x57's, one is a Brno 22fs they other a Ruger #1....
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I assume pics of the Brno and Ruger are forthcoming?
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I agree with 'whoop: lookin' for some pics.
Still waiting for you and Ingwe to figure it out...Mozambique?
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Would love to go to Mozambique & Uganda.
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Ingwe, Elk, and Sac in Mozambique...I'm afraid the State Department would have an issue on its hands!
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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