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Might be a bit of a head space issue with this round fired in a break action.. Wonder if this action is stronger than the TC.?

That assumes the chamber is cut right. You could have a barrel with perfect outside dimensions and still have excessive headspace if the chamber is cut too deep.

The rub is that TC is not the only Company that produces barrels for their Contender and Encore.There is MGM,Bullberry,SSK and a few more that will just about chamber anything you request.The man stated he was not using a factory barrel.I cant figure how TC can be held responsible for an aftermarket product that did not have the locking lugs either installed correctly or made correctly?

Hell, I missed that too.

So, an after market barrel with handloads, and he still manages to blame T/C.

Was the barrel manufacturer sued?

Since the gun was intact after the incident, it really wouldn't have been too difficult to work up a load to see at what point you duplicate the failure. (Assuming the action came open, which is the scenario that makes the most sense to me).

Wait, really?

No damned wonder T/C is requesting a retrial. It wasn't their barrel, and it was a grenade load.

HTF the jury found them at fault at all is now baffling.

Just when you thought it was safe to walk away.

Huntz, where's the barrel quote? Was the barrel manufacturer named?

At this case, I am wondering what T/C was sued for?

Specifically, the language of the suit.

Why wouldn't people want to get all the information? Do you expect people to just believe your side of the story and not ask for all the facts?

TC was sued because they had the deepest pockets out of everybody involved.

How do you guys come up with this stuff?

It was a Fox Ridge Outfitters Barrel AKA Thompson/Center Custom Shop.

So, you installed a barrel that was not original to the gun - regardless of where it came from - thereby altering the firearm from the original factor condition?

Did you, by chance, have it installed by a gunsmith and/or have a gunsmith check the headspace on that barrel when it was installed?

Really? That's their whole selling point! "one gun for all seasons" or something like that.

Well if they marketed them saying "no gunsmith required" than I could see where you felt misled.

Of course, it would have to say explicitly that, just as much as "don't handload for this mf'er" was in the booklet.

Hell, even H&R wouldn't sell you a barrel without sending your action in first.....

So, in fact, you did install a barrel that was not original to that rifle and you did not have the headspace checked.

Let's see:

Non-original barrel. No gunsmith or headspace check after installation. Severely over max handload. No pressure testing of load before or after incident.

You could have laid all that out in the first place IF YOU HAD ACTUALLY CARED ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED. Instead, you dribbled all this out over a myriad of websites and avoided direct questions like the plague. That's not a very forthright showing for someone who supposedly is interested in the safety of other shooters and not in a smear campaign against the manufacturer.

I think T/C has a damned good case against whomever represented them for incompetent representation at this point. At the very least they have multiple grounds for a retrial and/or appeal. If they are successful on either motion, they may likely have a pretty good case for libel as well.

You really are confused and your statements are absurd.

Do you know how an Encore works? In the T/C Arms own Encore commercial says …..”2 screws and one pin….new gun”.

I think it does not matter what I say here…. some of you guys you would pontificate and attack no matter what.

I have two Fox Ridge barrels and they have T/C Custom Shop stamped on them.

I am far from confused and my statements are spot on from a factual and legal perspective.

I know precisely how an Encore works (used to own a couple), and I also know what you have stated was at issue in your case. That you can't put that together is rather more telling than most anything else you've posted.

It mattered quite a bit what you've posted here and elsewhere. Had you been completely forthcoming from the beginning you'd have been and would be far more sympathetic and believable. As it is, you come across as someone who made a string of errors all of which your own doing and the results were a severe injury that you then sued someone else to cover and a sympathetic jury gave you just barely enough credit for your injury to make an award. You've taken that ball and run with it, and the facts that have come to light sense would give any decent attorney more than enough grounds to request a retrial or grounds for an appeal.

Your actions further have shown a severe and personal interest in damaging T/C's brand and name in spite of (and in fact often due to the concealment of) material facts. Again, T/C - if successful on retrial or on appeal - may very well pursue a libel action and I'd not want to be you trying to explain all these myriad song-and-dance routines to a judge or jury looking to see whether your intent in posting the same was malicious.

That's not an attack, Brian, it's an opinion and one founded on a good bit more than just trying to remember points from 10 years of litigation that are only favorable to my side.

And? You can swap out a barrel on a Remington 700 with three screws and a barrel wrench. Does that mean that you ought not check the headspace on the new "Remington" barrel?

Did TC send headspace gauges with them?

So let's say that I have a remington M700 and decide to put a new remington bolt in it, much easier to do than swap out a barrel, even on an encore.

Is the argument here that I shouldn't have to test the headspace because it is a remington part?

Would remington be liable if I didn't?

Or is not checking headspace specific to the Encore only?

If so does the Encore make the specific claim that you do not need to check the headspace when swapping barrels?