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Finally got out and shot the rifle the other day.... all be it in 10-15mph winds.
Here's the list of suspects for my issues in the second half of the match (erratic accuracy, mostly vertical):
1. Bad Zero/Lack of necessary accuracy
2. Bad Dope (factory ammo)
3. Scope went tits-up (tracking, RTZ)
4. Base Screws (broken/lose)
5. Ring Screws
6. POS Milk-Jug stock (forend contact, bedding)
7. My Stupid Ass going Nukl'r Whiskey the night before the shoot
I'm just going to concede that #2 is at least partially correct... simply because I didn't have enough rounds down range to "know" what my dope was... I had to make some presumptions.
I'm also going to concede that #7 was certainly a factor... especially as the day drug on.
#1 was a little messed up.... about .3 MILs right. Coulda been caused by: #3-#6
I'm not inclined to believe that #3 is an issue... this scope has been on a few rifles, and always tracked/retained/returned well.
When I pulled the rifle apart, the ring screws were all tight, and the rings were snug on the rail... eliminating #5
BUT.... all four base screws were about a quarter turn lose. I'm not sure why... but I honestly don't remember taking the rail off and making sure it was properly mounted/snugged. #4 is now the prime suspect... as it could have caused all the other issues... and the fact that the issues seemed erratic.
The stock (#6) looked good actually... there as no bedding chipped or worn unevenly. The barrel shows no signs of rubbing (see Jason's great "Ruger American Crappy Stock" thread) or other contact, and the action screws were still blody-knuckle tight.
So... base is re-mounted and screws re-torqued and lock-tighted. I've got it in 'hunt mode' now, wearing a Leupold Vari-X II 3-9x40 Tac in cheap weaver rings. With the brake and pack now removed... it weighs a skoosh over 7.5lbs.
I toyed a little with 123 Scenars over RE17... and it shows some promise with velocities up around 3000fps.... 123/.545/3000 is a bad ass stat line for 42-44 grains of powder.
More good stuff to come from this rifle....
I think you shot really well considering. Do you have anymore pics of your girlfriend to share with us?  
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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What # or style of Warne bases fit the RAR? Dunno.....but EGW makes a 20 moa rail for them.
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What # or style of Warne bases fit the RAR? I used the standard set out of the Warne Base Chart, 902/902, I believe. I was tempted to try the extended front though.
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The EGW is extended. ![[Linked Image]](http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/huntsman22/guns/IMG_5719_zpsh17hrcsy.jpg)
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huntsman22,
The EGW is a great option for extra elevation, and/or extra ring spacing. Thanks for the info. My wee-RAR and 10x MQ have 21+ mils of elevation left in the erector with flat bases. So far I've gone to ~1300 yards but there's not much left in the turret from there!
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This thread has inspired me....
I have a Predator 6.5 on my desk, along with a case of factory ammo. Should be fun...
I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!
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You know where to send my commission check....
You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
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I sure do! I'm trying to decide what to scope it with. I want to keep the price low, but I don't have a SWFA to throw on it.
I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!
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What brand of factory ammo, Hornady or Winchester/Olin?
I have a Sightron S1 4-12x40 AO on my RAR-P in 6.5 Creedmoor. Don't know that you could get more scope for less $$.
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I've shot both the Winchester Match 140 HPBTs and the Hornady 140 Amax ammo.... the Winchester is more accurate in my rifle, but the .530 BC sucks balls compared to the .595 of the Amax load.
140 Amax shot well over 40-42 grains IMR 4350 in Hornady brass.
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I sure do! I'm trying to decide what to scope it with. I want to keep the price low, but I don't have a SWFA to throw on it. Weaver 3.5-10 Tac or Leupold 3-9x40 CDS would be a good way to go. I've got the Leupold 3-9 on mine now.... it's pretty light and handy.
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Hey Josh, I think me and Jeff are in on the hunting weight class. Hopefully we will qualify! Hahahaha our hunting rifles are more like your 260 that you shot last year. Do we have to shoot off of packs?? Rick are you in??
"I used to be a tired hunting guide, now I'm just a re-tired hunting guide"
"No eternal reward will forgive us now, for wasting the dawn" JM
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Hey Josh, I think me and Jeff are in on the hunting weight class. Hopefully we will qualify! Hahahaha our hunting rifles are more like your 260 that you shot last year. Do we have to shoot off of packs?? Rick are you in?? Yep! It'll be fun. I use the Stoney Point Rapid Pivot bipods on all my hunting rigs...
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I recon if you can get a bipod on a gun, and keep it under 9lbs... then that's probably a viable 'hunting' set-up. My .260, that I shot last year, weighed 10.5lbs all up with the bipod and purse.
Maybe we could handicap it.... like +8 plates for going sub-8lbs.... +4 for going sub-9lbs..... and then have a 10lb all-up limit? That would mean a 35 with a 7.5lb gun would 'score' 43.... or 39 with a 9lb gun. If you can get the bipod on, and keep it under the 10lb hard-deck.... then shoot off the bipod.
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Cut the crap about handicaps. Bring one of your hunting rifles and shoot it. 
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Cut the crap about handicaps. Bring one of your hunting rifles and shoot it. "This pack is brutal..... can someone carry my rifle?".....
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Ok, you can use your super duper heavy rig. I've decided to use one of these to make it fair... ![[Linked Image]](http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo236/rcamuglia/doglock02.jpg)
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You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
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The upgraded version of the RAR Predator
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Ok, you can use your super duper heavy rig.... That's kinda the point.... I don't own one, they're specialty tools. You've shown you can "Dominate" with a 15lb gun..... does that dominance translate to a hunting rifle? Can you do it no bipod? Should an 8lb rifle off the pack be able to hang with a 10-15lb rifle off a bipod? That's kinda what we're trying to find out here..... what SRM "Game Skills" translate to "hunting rifle skills".... the two are distinctly different. Saying that your 15lb .300 Winny is a "hunting rifle"..... is like saying a raced-out Glock 36 with a red dot sight, compensator, and drop holster is a "carry gun"....
You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
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