Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns Your vote for the BEST wondernine?

Glock 19. Perfect balance of firepower, size, barrel length, bulk, ease of use. Gaston Glock got it right, and the fact that it is the most popular 9mm in the us while being by no means the cheapest shows that it is king for a reason

Wow! Another vote for the M-13...

SIG X-5

If my memory serves, the SIG passed every test that the Beretta did, in the military selection testing, but the Beretta got the nod because it is a NATO gun and the Sig isn't.

Actually, Beretta got the nod because they lied about the cost per unit and delivery guarantees and had bought enough Congressional representation to make sure that the deal went through.

Both SIG and Beretta passed the testing and qualified as bidders to be the new M9. There were two bids. The first was for weapons only, and SIG underbid Beretta. In the second bid the weapons and all the extra and misc parts needed were included. Beretta underbid SIG and was declared the winner.

It's alledged that Beretta was tipped off about SIGs second bid price due to the Reagan Administration rewarding Italy for accepting Ground Launched Cruise Missiles being based there.

Appeals by SIG and pistol manufactorers who didn't even qualify started immediately. As did lawsuits and investigations. None of which came to anything. No one ever proved any favortism happened or that GLCM politics were involved in awarding the contract to Beretta.

Personallly I don't think the military is ill served by the Beretta. And I suspect that had the SIG got the contract that there still would have been complaints and issues of unfairness and bias ad nauseum...

And when the miltary needed a pistol smaller than the M9, the SIG P228 was selected as the M11. It's been issued to plainclothes military law enforcement and Naval aviators.

I've got a Sig 228 around here somewhere. I haven't carried it in awhile, but it is a sweet shooting pistol. I need to look that one up.

The best of the breed was the H&K P9s...

Fixed barrel with lower bore axis.
Roller locked breech system.
fast ergonomic cock/decock.
polygon rifled bore...

Mine was the best pistol that I ever carried. I regret the day that I lost it...

There is a difference between what pistol is the best, and what the military is going to General Issue to minimally trained troops. The amount of pistol training the average service member gets is minimal. As in one day at the Range, once a year

Not on ignore. It's just that finding one at a good price is almost the handgun equivalent of finding the Dead Sea Scrolls.

None at all, give me a .45 ACP to start. I would carry a 1911 if I carried.
I forgot, your mag carries a lot of rounds to give you a good feeling.
"Wonder nine" what is that? Proven false with troops that had the nine. Special ops carry a 1911.

Hells bells...

Oh no you di-int

Oh yes he did Chriss

Burnt any styrofoam on steaks lately, dropped your carry gun in PUBLICK!, chewed Mom out for using your good knives on "your" marble counter tops to cut her pills....need I go on? Shpwer guns, bug eyeballs in the grass, negroes in pickups. numchuck skills?

Actually, i believe MARSOC IS THE ONLY "special ops" unit carrying 1911s

All the rest carry 9mms of some flavor as standard issue

Wrong, and wrong. The SIG has a very good service record, as does the Glock, both of which are carried by SpecOps units. MARSOC is the only one authorized to carry 1911s and even they lobbied (successfully) to be authorized to carry the Glock or the SIG.

The 9x19 as a military round has a damned good service record, whether with the GP35 (BHP), the CZ75, the SIG, or even the Beretta M9, and now the Glock. It works.

To me since you used the word best than the SIG 210 would be the gun you are looking for.
A Glock is a good gun for the money but hardly the best.
The P7 is a excellent weapon, however often downed by people who have limited or no experience with one. My daughter went through Gunsite with a P7/M8. She burned nearly 500 rounds. She had 6 magazines and I don't remember her having any issues with mag changes or a overly hot gun.

Nope. 1st SFOD-D (Delta) issues Glock 22s. 1911A1 accurized pistols haven't been used for awhile. SEALs issue a SIG 226. Marine Spec Ops are authorized to carry Glocks as well as the new Colt M45s. "Lots of rounds" is a good thing...in combat or stateside. I carried a Beretta 92 for over twenty years on the LAPD. I had 61 rounds on me when I worked uniform...46 rounds in plainclothes. I liked that "good feeling" that lots of rounds give. Nothing wrong with a Beretta, except it's kinda hard to conceal sometimes in LA on a warm summer day.
Bob

As Mark pointed out, "Wonder Nine" refers to a 9mm with specific characteristics, prominent among which is a double staggered magazine, which the P210 doesn't have.

On what evidence do you base your comment that the Glock is hardly the best?