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Looking for a suppressor for my Christensen Arms MPR in 6mm Creedmoor. Thanks!
Dead Air sandman L or sandman s
Thunderbeast and get it in 30 Caliber regardless whose you buy so that you can use it on more rifles. The lost suppression from the bigger hole isn't much if we can tell at all IMO
Silencerco Have been excellent suppressors from me, I have three no issues I have one in jail. I hear dead air as previously mentioned makes an awesome can.
Originally Posted by 007FJ
Thunderbeast and get it in 30 Caliber regardless whose you buy so that you can use it on more rifles. The lost suppression from the bigger hole isn't much if we can tell at all IMO


Agreed
I use a Dear Air Sandman Ti on my hunting rifles and it's been everything I could have wanted. For whatever reason, the Ti was significantly less expensive than the other Sandman models when I bought it, so maybe there's something about titanium that folks don't like.
https://thunderbeastarms.com/products/ultra-7

I'd recommend the models with the muzzle brake adapters rather than direct threading it rifle to rifle.
I didn't explain the other reason for the brake style. You can buy the different rifle barrel threads that way as you decide to move it to an AR for instance which would be 1/2" (5,56) or 9/16" for a 6.5 Grendel yet still use it on your 5/8 threaded 308.
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I've spent big money on suppressors before, but at this point, but if I had to do it over again I'd just buy yankee hill cans.
They're an incredible value for the money. You could buy 2 or three for the price of the thunderbeast.
Unless you're way down the precision shooting rabbit hole, just go YHM.

Also- I prefer short and loud cans that don't epically f up the balance of the gun.
Super quite cans seem cool on paper, but strapping 8" and 20 onces on the end of barrel is kinda dumb IMO.
If I can make a centerfire rifle sound about like a unsuppressed 22LR or 22 Mag, I'm happy.

If you're doing a range session you should be wearing plugs for the sonic crack, anyhow.
The quietest can in the world can't stop that.


Has anybody ever actually used one of these?
They seem kinda like a POS.
Originally Posted by CaptArab
I've spent big money on suppressors before, but at this point, but if I had to do it over again I'd just buy yankee hill cans.
They're an incredible value for the money. You could buy 2 or three for the price of the thunderbeast.
Unless you're way down the precision shooting rabbit hole, just go YHM.

Also- I prefer short and loud cans that don't epically f up the balance of the gun.
Super quite cans seem cool on paper, but strapping 8" and 20 onces on the end of barrel is kinda dumb IMO.
If I can make a centerfire rifle sound about like a unsuppressed 22LR or 22 Mag, I'm happy.

If you're doing a range session you should be wearing plugs for the sonic crack, anyhow.
The quietest can in the world can't stop that.


This isn't wrong to consider either especially the part about shorter cans. 9" Long suppressor on a 22" barreled AR-10 is a monster to handle especially with the bipod. I assumed from the rifle listed at first though he was going down the precision rabbit hole!
I got the YHM Resonator. Love it.
I appreciate the options, I'm thinking of a 308 cal that I can use on my 6mm CM, 6.5CM, 308 and 7mm RM, all Christensen Arms so I think they should be the same.
Originally Posted by CaptArab
I've spent big money on suppressors before, but at this point, but if I had to do it over again I'd just buy yankee hill cans.
They're an incredible value for the money. You could buy 2 or three for the price of the thunderbeast.
Unless you're way down the precision shooting rabbit hole, just go YHM.

Also- I prefer short and loud cans that don't epically f up the balance of the gun.
Super quite cans seem cool on paper, but strapping 8" and 20 onces on the end of barrel is kinda dumb IMO.
If I can make a centerfire rifle sound about like a unsuppressed 22LR or 22 Mag, I'm happy.

If you're doing a range session you should be wearing plugs for the sonic crack, anyhow.
The quietest can in the world can't stop that.


Some wisdom in this post. I would add though, that Thunderbeast really stands behind their products if you have an issue. I'm sure YHM might as well, just no experience with them.


Originally Posted by CaptArab


Has anybody ever actually used one of these?
They seem kinda like a POS.


Cans draw a lot of attention. Why would you risk a felony to save a few hundred bucks and a bit of a wait?
Originally Posted by CaptArab


Has anybody ever actually used one of these?
They seem kinda like a POS.


Legal to own until the moment you screw it on our barrel, with out a tax stamp it is then a federal offence.

I have several suppressors and like my Lane Scorpion 223 best and the Lane Rimfire second best. They come apart easily for cleaning and they are great folks to deal with unlike Silencer Co and Gemtech who have never returned my call or emails. Lane Silencers www.lane-products.com
I have the following rifle cans

Dead air sandman S, and direct thread TI
Silencerco omega

The Sandman s is just barley noticeably louder than the omega or TI

The omega is slightly higher pitched In tone than the dead air cans, But still sounds really good and is lighter in weight.

The sandman TI is the quietest but the longest can. Weight is like 1-2 ounces more than the omega and less than the sandman S

I actually don’t have a preference between direct thread and the keymo system that dead air uses for a mount I have seen multiple other brands using a brake mounting system get stuck after multiple rounds

The keymo has never gotten stuck on me or according to the class 3 dealer I use on any of his full auto rifles. Other brands did get stuck especially silencerco and AAC.

Don’t bother with buying different size end caps for different calibers. Not worth the money at all as you cannot tell the difference I assure you. I tried

Thunderbeast are very nice, but the price is definitely up there. I couldn’t justify the price of admission vs the others.

I have noticed a POi shift with cans on and off, but it is absolutely repeatable and predictable enough it doesn’t matter.

Biggest piece of advice is get one! You won’t regret it

thunder beast ultra 7...
I have shot both the Silencerco Octane 9 and the 300 Harvester............. they work well.
Lane Suppressors... are fantastic.

Great company... great people... very cost effective.

Google to find their website. They have some very cool videos on their website as well.

Cory Lane build me a custom 375 suppressor. It is a titanium sleeve with stainless steel core. I have run it on weapons up to 375 rum without drama. When I run it on my 9-3 x62 Mauser I am still able to maintain half inch groups at a hundred yards. I purchased mine through an FFL friend at dealer cost. I recall it was under $500.

I also run the 30 caliber Lane Magnum scorpion. The suppressor works on both .308 and .338.

We were running some hot loads of 300 Weatherby one day. Without the suppressor The Recoil and Noise was as you would expect. After screwing on the lane Magnum suppressor The Recoil dropped to that of a 308 as well as the sound. It was simply mind-boggling to me.

I also own Thunder Beast suppressors. They are very good units but they are not serviceable by the owner. They are also about twice as expensive as Lane.

Back when I was getting my Lane cans, Corey would generate a serial number and get it back to my FFL. In less than a week. Sometimes as short is a day. This made the turnaround time on getting my tax stamp super fast.
Originally Posted by 257Bob
Looking for a suppressor for my Christensen Arms MPR in 6mm Creedmoor. Thanks!


You will find it very difficult to achieve satisfactory noise reduction on a 243 caliber gun.

My best guess would be 22 long rifle to 22 Magnum unsuppressed.

Of course it is completely possible to load a very quiet 6 mm round. Even whisper quiet. The problem is it's not going to be worth much after a hundred yards or so

With that said, I shoot 300 grain 45 Colt rounds super quiet through a lever gun with a suppressor. 300 grain under a hundred yards is very powerful. But after 100 yards I am shooting rainbow arcs
Originally Posted by Boise
Originally Posted by CaptArab


Has anybody ever actually used one of these?
They seem kinda like a POS.


Legal to own until the moment you screw it on our barrel, with out a tax stamp it is then a federal offence.

I have several suppressors and like my Lane Scorpion 223 best and the Lane Rimfire second best. They come apart easily for cleaning and they are great folks to deal with unlike Silencer Co and Gemtech who have never returned my call or emails. Lane Silencers www.lane-products.com



I too own 4 Lane suppressors and they are awesome, however my most recent one I've bought was a Rebel, they are veteran owned. The 223 suppressor I bought was $250 cheaper than the price of the Lane, weighs less although the overall profile is a little bigger. The Lanes I have are all titanium, the rebel is stainless and aluminum. My wife claimed it for her 6x45 for deer hunting this fall already. I love Lane, but this one is worth looking into as well. Nothing tops the Lane scorpion magnum and the rimfire titanium suppressors. But for a straight 223, it'd be hard for me to pass on the Rebel.
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by 257Bob
Looking for a suppressor for my Christensen Arms MPR in 6mm Creedmoor. Thanks!


You will find it very difficult to achieve satisfactory noise reduction on a 243 caliber gun.

My best guess would be 22 long rifle to 22 Magnum unsuppressed.

Of course it is completely possible to load a very quiet 6 mm round. Even whisper quiet. The problem is it's not going to be worth much after a hundred yards or so

With that said, I shoot 300 grain 45 Colt rounds super quiet through a lever gun with a suppressor. 300 grain under a hundred yards is very powerful. But after 100 yards I am shooting rainbow arcs

Actually they suppress them very nicely. Last fall I used a Lane titanium 556 on a 243 and it worked great, huge noise reduction even though I was shooting supersonic. I'm a fan
Originally Posted by Colorado1135
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by 257Bob
Looking for a suppressor for my Christensen Arms MPR in 6mm Creedmoor. Thanks!


You will find it very difficult to achieve satisfactory noise reduction on a 243 caliber gun.

My best guess would be 22 long rifle to 22 Magnum unsuppressed.

Of course it is completely possible to load a very quiet 6 mm round. Even whisper quiet. The problem is it's not going to be worth much after a hundred yards or so

With that said, I shoot 300 grain 45 Colt rounds super quiet through a lever gun with a suppressor. 300 grain under a hundred yards is very powerful. But after 100 yards I am shooting rainbow arcs

Actually they suppress them very nicely. Last fall I used a Lane titanium 556 on a 243 and it worked great, huge noise reduction even though I was shooting supersonic. I'm a fan



Is the Lane titanium 556 a 5.56 (.224") can? If so, how did it work shooting a .243" bullet thru it. I use a .30 caliber can on .223 thru .30 caliber, but never the other way around.
Originally Posted by Colorado1135
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by 257Bob
Looking for a suppressor for my Christensen Arms MPR in 6mm Creedmoor. Thanks!


You will find it very difficult to achieve satisfactory noise reduction on a 243 caliber gun.

My best guess would be 22 long rifle to 22 Magnum unsuppressed.

Of course it is completely possible to load a very quiet 6 mm round. Even whisper quiet. The problem is it's not going to be worth much after a hundred yards or so

With that said, I shoot 300 grain 45 Colt rounds super quiet through a lever gun with a suppressor. 300 grain under a hundred yards is very powerful. But after 100 yards I am shooting rainbow arcs

Actually they suppress them very nicely. Last fall I used a Lane titanium 556 on a 243 and it worked great, huge noise reduction even though I was shooting supersonic. I'm a fan


Cool... I respect that.

I have super quiet 308 loads... then I move up to 45 Colt, 45 70, 458 Winchester magnum short.

I run bullet weights from 250 grain in .452 up to 730 grain in .458. I like gigantic thumps. I reckon I'm kind of a sick bastard.

I respect that you did the work to get small-bore bullets to fly well quietly.

I also respect 6x45... great fun stuff... I cook 55s at 3,500 in mine.
Originally Posted by ChuckKY
Originally Posted by Colorado1135
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by 257Bob
Looking for a suppressor for my Christensen Arms MPR in 6mm Creedmoor. Thanks!


You will find it very difficult to achieve satisfactory noise reduction on a 243 caliber gun.

My best guess would be 22 long rifle to 22 Magnum unsuppressed.

Of course it is completely possible to load a very quiet 6 mm round. Even whisper quiet. The problem is it's not going to be worth much after a hundred yards or so

With that said, I shoot 300 grain 45 Colt rounds super quiet through a lever gun with a suppressor. 300 grain under a hundred yards is very powerful. But after 100 yards I am shooting rainbow arcs

Actually they suppress them very nicely. Last fall I used a Lane titanium 556 on a 243 and it worked great, huge noise reduction even though I was shooting supersonic. I'm a fan



Is the Lane titanium 556 a 5.56 (.224") can? If so, how did it work shooting a .243" bullet thru it. I use a .30 caliber can on .223 thru .30 caliber, but never the other way around.



I would call Cory on the phone.

I own 3 Lane.

30 Magnum Scorpion
375 regular (custom bore)
458 regular.

If I was going to own one can only... I would see if Cory would make me a 458 Magnum Scorpion. You would lose some benefit on small bore, but it would handle anything.
Man that's screaming!
The 6x45 is very underrated, probably because it doesn't have a sexy name.

I just built a 335-06 I'm gonna throw on my scorpion magnum from Lane.

+1 on Corey being an awesome guy, got to tour his shop and shoot the schit with him one day. Even got to try some stuff out. Real down to earth
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by ChuckKY
Originally Posted by Colorado1135
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by 257Bob
Looking for a suppressor for my Christensen Arms MPR in 6mm Creedmoor. Thanks!


You will find it very difficult to achieve satisfactory noise reduction on a 243 caliber gun.

My best guess would be 22 long rifle to 22 Magnum unsuppressed.

Of course it is completely possible to load a very quiet 6 mm round. Even whisper quiet. The problem is it's not going to be worth much after a hundred yards or so

With that said, I shoot 300 grain 45 Colt rounds super quiet through a lever gun with a suppressor. 300 grain under a hundred yards is very powerful. But after 100 yards I am shooting rainbow arcs

Actually they suppress them very nicely. Last fall I used a Lane titanium 556 on a 243 and it worked great, huge noise reduction even though I was shooting supersonic. I'm a fan



Is the Lane titanium 556 a 5.56 (.224") can? If so, how did it work shooting a .243" bullet thru it. I use a .30 caliber can on .223 thru .30 caliber, but never the other way around.



I would call Cory on the phone.

I own 3 Lane.

30 Magnum Scorpion
375 regular (custom bore)
458 regular.

If I was going to own one can only... I would see if Cory would make me a 458 Magnum Scorpion. You would lose some benefit on small bore, but it would handle anything.


Oops... you were asking CO1135.

Sorry about that, I'm on my phone.
Cash and 1135 thanks for the testimonials on the Lane. I been thinking of a can , instead of calling him I think I'll just walk over and see them I live within a mile of their shop or does a guy have to go thru a middle man? MB
You should be able to buy right from Corey there. My first ones were the scorpion magnum and the rimfire. Only wish I would have done a 556 at the time too. Get the all titanium, you won't regret it. I also have the short .30 cal for the 308. Their rimfire can they tested with an AR 15 and it survived but they don't recommend it. It is rated for up to a 22 hornet though..... I think I need one of those again
I love titanium, but be careful of extreme rate of fire... Titanium will fail under extreme heat. We blew up a Thunderbeast this way.

Enjoy... and tell Cory hello from his guys in Virginia
Originally Posted by JGRaider
I got the YHM Resonator. Love it.


Best bang for the buck no pun intended smile
Get that one.
I have a Banish 30 in jail now. It is right up there with the best of them.
A little off subject here, but I've got a Yankee Hill Centerfire .30 caliber suppressor and it does a good job. The baffles are welded in it and it can be a pain to clean, even with a ultrasonic cleaner. I know they say you don't have to clean them, they are self cleaning, but I will leave it screwed on the barrel and shoot the barrel and can full of Foam Out Bore cleaner overnight, and than drop the can in ultrasonic cleaner and it does a good job cleaning centerfire suppressor. My rimfire suppressor baffles all come apart and it is no problem.
What's the shortest barrel you guys would suggest for a suppressed AR10 that would be a tactical to about 200 yard rifle? Working on a lighter weight build that I could carry around comfortably for shorter periods of time, that would have more killing power than an AR15, but also be decent to around 200 yards in, let's say, an urban sniping scenario. I don't have any reason for wanting such a weapon these days. Just a hypothetical question of course 🤔
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Originally Posted by JakeBlues
What's the shortest barrel you guys would suggest for a suppressed AR10 that would be a tactical to about 200 yard rifle? Working on a lighter weight build that I could carry around comfortably for shorter periods of time, that would have more killing power than an AR15, but also be decent to around 200 yards in, let's say, an urban sniping scenario. I don't have any reason for wanting such a weapon these days. Just a hypothetical question of course 🤔


200 yards and in I don't see a benefit in anything on an AR10 platform. But what you are talking about sounds like a 300 blackout SBR can handle.
I run 3 tubes, 2 are Lane. I won't mention the 3rd (*cough* yhm *Cough*), because it will eventually be a Lane.
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
What's the shortest barrel you guys would suggest for a suppressed AR10 that would be a tactical to about 200 yard rifle? Working on a lighter weight build that I could carry around comfortably for shorter periods of time, that would have more killing power than an AR15, but also be decent to around 200 yards in, let's say, an urban sniping scenario. I don't have any reason for wanting such a weapon these days. Just a hypothetical question of course 🤔

200 yards and in I don't see a benefit in anything on an AR10 platform. But what you are talking about sounds like a 300 blackout SBR can handle.

Seems like a lighter weight AR10 could deliver about 2x the terminal kinetic energy in a varmint size round versus a typical 223. That may be advantageous against someone with a vest or behind any barrier.
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
What's the shortest barrel you guys would suggest for a suppressed AR10 that would be a tactical to about 200 yard rifle? Working on a lighter weight build that I could carry around comfortably for shorter periods of time, that would have more killing power than an AR15, but also be decent to around 200 yards in, let's say, an urban sniping scenario. I don't have any reason for wanting such a weapon these days. Just a hypothetical question of course 🤔



Sierra's tipped game king in 165 grain 308 will reliably expand (> 1400 fps) to about 415 yards out of a 16". Can't recall the energy numbers I'd have to run them through a calculator again. Plenty to kill an elk though.

My 16" ar10 in 308 is a pussycat with my Speer TNT 125 grain handloads running about a 300 savage level charge of BLC2 out of milsurp brass. Kills everything in the South too.

Mine has a 3x prism scope and weighs less than 9.5 lbs with the optic and mag. Does great with a rugged razor, but the yhm resonator k or sandman k/s would all be great too.

Hell of a setup.

A 6.5 Grendel or 300 Ham'r will just about do the same thing and be lighter, but I like the 308 for nostalgia and commonality.

If you just want to be able to kill thin skinned mammals at 200 yards, literally any AR15 in 223/556 will do just fine with a decent bullet.
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
What's the shortest barrel you guys would suggest for a suppressed AR10 that would be a tactical to about 200 yard rifle? Working on a lighter weight build that I could carry around comfortably for shorter periods of time, that would have more killing power than an AR15, but also be decent to around 200 yards in, let's say, an urban sniping scenario. I don't have any reason for wanting such a weapon these days. Just a hypothetical question of course 🤔

200 yards and in I don't see a benefit in anything on an AR10 platform. But what you are talking about sounds like a 300 blackout SBR can handle.

Seems like a lighter weight AR10 could deliver about 2x the terminal kinetic energy in a varmint size round versus a typical 223. That may be advantageous against someone with a vest or behind any barrier.



Shoot them in the face!

Funny how we have been killing our enemies with the 5.56 for a long time.

The penalties of the AR10 for use as a 200 yard and in rifle just don't add up. But have at it all you want.
After having AR15 rifles, as well as a light AR10, the 5.56 rifles would be my pick for defense, due to recoil and shot to shot recovery of your sight picture. With that being said, the .308 is certainly my pick in a hunting role. Hogs, deer, coyotes will die with .22cal loads, but it’s not as reliable on game as the .30cal. Blood trails on chest shots are often iffy with the smaller caliber.
I recently bought a Deadair Nomad 30, with the Keymo option. Waiting for the paperwork to clear and take possession.
https://www.silencercentral.com/wp-...eviewed-The-Truth-About-Guns-Article.pdf
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That is some of the data that lead me to buying the Varminter 4.0 now known as the Banish 30.Can't wait to get it in my hands!
But if weight and not being takedown isn't a factor the YHM is a steal!
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
What's the shortest barrel you guys would suggest for a suppressed AR10 that would be a tactical to about 200 yard rifle? Working on a lighter weight build that I could carry around comfortably for shorter periods of time, that would have more killing power than an AR15, but also be decent to around 200 yards in, let's say, an urban sniping scenario. I don't have any reason for wanting such a weapon these days. Just a hypothetical question of course 🤔


Bullet stability is always the challenge at lower speeds for guns less than medium bore.

Other options may vary.

If I was shooting 200 yards... I would be shooting a .458 something...
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
What's the shortest barrel you guys would suggest for a suppressed AR10 that would be a tactical to about 200 yard rifle? Working on a lighter weight build that I could carry around comfortably for shorter periods of time, that would have more killing power than an AR15, but also be decent to around 200 yards in, let's say, an urban sniping scenario. I don't have any reason for wanting such a weapon these days. Just a hypothetical question of course 🤔


200 yards and in I don't see a benefit in anything on an AR10 platform. But what you are talking about sounds like a 300 blackout SBR can handle.


Agreeed... a 375 Raptor AR-10... would be better.

Bigger bore is always better at delivering energy.
People have never held up well to bullets. I see zero reason to go to the larger platform for the task that was given.
Friend of mine that had done a lot of research on the topic made a suggestion to me when I started working up subsonic loads.

He specifically said use the fastest powder that you possibly can and get the explosion over and done with as quickly as possible for the greatest reduction in noise.

I have found that advice to be very helpful.
Powder doesn't explode it burns
Build your own. I've seen a piece of aluminum conduit and a handful of freeze plugs outperform a bunch of high dollar commercial suppressors. The loudest noise was the snap of the firing pin when using Eley Tenex subsonic target ammo in a .22 bolt action.

Found an old video... FF to about 0:45 if you are an impatient sort.

I believe this is a lane 458 suppressor. I know for a fact it is a lane suppressor... because the video game from the lane website.

https://youtu.be/jw7BpDSMYOw
Originally Posted by duck911
I run 3 tubes, 2 are Lane. I won't mention the 3rd (*cough* yhm *Cough*), because it will eventually be a Lane.



https://www.silencercentral.com/wp-...eviewed-The-Truth-About-Guns-Article.pdf

In this article, it looks like the YHM was lighter, cost less and had a greater db reduction than the Lane. I'm starting to see the allure of the Lane here.
Originally Posted by ChuckKY
Originally Posted by duck911
I run 3 tubes, 2 are Lane. I won't mention the 3rd (*cough* yhm *Cough*), because it will eventually be a Lane.



https://www.silencercentral.com/wp-...eviewed-The-Truth-About-Guns-Article.pdf

In this article, it looks like the YHM was lighter, cost less and had a greater db reduction than the Lane. I'm starting to see the allure of the Lane here.



I became very good friends with an FFL SOT after i had already purchaaes a Bowers and 3 Thunder Beast. This is how I became introduced to Lane. Furthermore, I was getting Lane suppressors at wholesale dealer cost.

I love their serviceability, I love the fact that they do not deteriorate accuracy, I very much like dealing with the company and the fact that they were super cheap for me was also a huge Plus.

I have no experience with YHM... but if others say they are first class I would consider that opinion valid.
Shove the end of the barrel in a Democrat's ear pull trigger.
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by ChuckKY
Originally Posted by duck911
I run 3 tubes, 2 are Lane. I won't mention the 3rd (*cough* yhm *Cough*), because it will eventually be a Lane.



https://www.silencercentral.com/wp-...eviewed-The-Truth-About-Guns-Article.pdf

In this article, it looks like the YHM was lighter, cost less and had a greater db reduction than the Lane. I'm starting to see the allure of the Lane here.



I became very good friends with an FFL SOT after i had already purchaaes a Bowers and 3 Thunder Beast. This is how I became introduced to Lane. Furthermore, I was getting Lane suppressors at wholesale dealer cost.

I love their serviceability, I love the fact that they do not deteriorate accuracy, I very much like dealing with the company and the fact that they were super cheap for me was also a huge Plus.

I have no experience with YHM... but if others say they are first class I would consider that opinion valid.


No hate here, none meant. I just get a kick sometimes how some views are "If your not shooting what I am, your doing it wrong". I haven't had any accuracy degrade from the YHM either, as a matter of fact I think it has "rounded out" groups on most of the rifles I have shot it on. The thing about suppressors that some people overlook, the cost of the suppressor may just be the look down that rabbit hole. I really like the quick attach mounts, they never shoot loose. Add a half dozen of them or more at $75+ each, plus a cover to keep the skin on when you forget "once" and touch it hot, plus stamp for every one you own and it adds significantly to initial purchase. But I would do it all over again. The rimfire with sub-sonic loads is too much fun for an adult. The firing pin dropping is the loudest thing you hear. YMMV, no harm, no foul.
Originally Posted by 1bigdude
Shove the end of the barrel in a Democrat's ear pull trigger.



That huge empty echo could be deafening.
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