What does a conservative American have in common with you?
You voted for a man with obvious mental decline, most likely Alzheimer’s disease. You voted for him to sit as the president of the United States for the next four years.
You support a party that openly embraces Marxism. Seriously. The Democrat party embraces Marxism.ANTIFA and BLM are extensions of that party and are not denounced by leaders who are Democrat or the Democrat party. Remember Stalin, the Cold War, the millions of people killed for political purposes?
You support a party who’s members say such things as Chuck Schumer recently blurted out. “Let’s win Georgia then change America”. That is a treasonous statement. It is not the job of a politician to change the country. Their purpose is in part to uphold the constitution but primarily to govern according to the guidelines that it outlines.
You support a party that not only supports but has pushed an agenda on abortion that encourages the killing of babies through the full three trimesters of pregnancy and the killing or allowing to die of any aborted baby who survives a murder attempt in their life.
I could go on with a long list which would include things such as suppression of speech, gun control, monitoring of activities, etc.
If you are a liberal or Democrat please tell me what I have in common with you other than breathing air?
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Inquiring minds want to know.
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
What does a conservative American have in common with you?
You support a party that not only supports but has pushed an agenda on abortion that encourages the killing of babies through the full three trimesters of pregnancy and the killing or allowing to die of any aborted baby who survives a murder attempt in their life.
Our convoluted laws are a result of moral relativism. And both sides are guilty. I hate stereotyping people but generally
Liberals usually are pro choice and against capital punishment.
Conservatives usually are pro life and for capital punishment.
Expect a lot more moral relativism and convoluted laws ahead.
A canyon, across which a bridge cannot be built, ever.
We’re way past the time for talkin’.
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
Exactly. A lot of Rs had to hold their nose to vote for Bush Sr Jr , McCain and Romney.
What does a conservative American have in common with you?
You voted for a man with obvious mental decline, most likely Alzheimer’s disease. You voted for him to sit as the president of the United States for the next four years.
You support a party that openly embraces Marxism. Seriously. The Democrat party embraces Marxism.ANTIFA and BLM are extensions of that party and are not denounced by leaders who are Democrat or the Democrat party. Remember Stalin, the Cold War, the millions of people killed for political purposes?
You support a party who’s members say such things as Chuck Schumer recently blurted out. “Let’s win Georgia then change America”. That is a treasonous statement. It is not the job of a politician to change the country. Their purpose is in part to uphold the constitution but primarily to govern according to the guidelines that it outlines.
You support a party that not only supports but has pushed an agenda on abortion that encourages the killing of babies through the full three trimesters of pregnancy and the killing or allowing to die of any aborted baby who survives a murder attempt in their life.
I could go on with a long list which would include things such as suppression of speech, gun control, monitoring of activities, etc.
If you are a liberal or Democrat please tell me what I have in common with you other than breathing air?
There is little or no difference. One group supports "National Socialism" the other "International Socialism".
What does a conservative American have in common with you?
You voted for a man with obvious mental decline, most likely Alzheimer’s disease. You voted for him to sit as the president of the United States for the next four years.
You support a party that openly embraces Marxism. Seriously. The Democrat party embraces Marxism.ANTIFA and BLM are extensions of that party and are not denounced by leaders who are Democrat or the Democrat party. Remember Stalin, the Cold War, the millions of people killed for political purposes?
You support a party who’s members say such things as Chuck Schumer recently blurted out. “Let’s win Georgia then change America”. That is a treasonous statement. It is not the job of a politician to change the country. Their purpose is in part to uphold the constitution but primarily to govern according to the guidelines that it outlines.
You support a party that not only supports but has pushed an agenda on abortion that encourages the killing of babies through the full three trimesters of pregnancy and the killing or allowing to die of any aborted baby who survives a murder attempt in their life.
I could go on with a long list which would include things such as suppression of speech, gun control, monitoring of activities, etc.
If you are a liberal or Democrat please tell me what I have in common with you other than breathing air?
There is little or no difference. One group supports "National Socialism" the other "International Socialism".
I’m not talking Republican vs Democrat.
I specifically said conservative. I’m a conservative not a Republican. Conservatives don’t stand for socialism in any form.
We’re way past the time for talkin’.
I Hope and Pray that this isn’t so. Once that genie is out of the bottle only bad things happen and putting the pieces back together is a horrible things. The second time this country did that the results were horrible.
A canyon, across which a bridge cannot be built, ever.
Yes. I want these knuckle dragging idiots to look in the mirror.
They won't tell you the truth. They may not understand themselves. They come in different flavors.
- You have the ignorant masses that believe the gov't just prints money and that they should get more of it without reaching consequences
- You have the gullible that believe the MSM and Hollywood hype that their side is all rainbows and unicorns while the GOP is run by Darth Vader and Emperor (When actually it is the other way around)
- You have the misfits that hate themselves and hate America for it's its exceptionalism. The scrawny skate board dudes that spend their teens and and twenties smoking weed and cruising around around, siting on the corner playing the guitar. The pale chubby chick that can't get laid and has no BFF girls to hang with They are angry that Mother Nature hit them with the ugly stick.
- You have the kids with undiagnosed mental health health issues (or diagnosed). ADD, ADHD (yes, it's real) Bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, malignant narcissists etc that can't fit in
- White guilt, mostly harbored by people that have almost no contact growing up with people of color. In this category you have the White kids indoctrinated by the educational system and the MSM and adult Whites that live in the gated communities that just thin that urban poverty is purely a product of racism.
- You have the emotional set that votes for who they think is nice, or looks most attractive, or that gets the approval and respect of the hosts on The View. These people just are uninformed and make a decision so that they don't need to defend their decision. They go with what they think the mainstream consensus is so that they fit in.
- You have the anarchist and real communists that are out to destroy the very fabric and order of America and trash it to the ground. The ones at the top want revolution so they can take over. Other just want to destroy the US and turn into a semi functioning cesspool like Mexico.
- Then you have the single issue voters. #1 is the Roe V. Wade group. Next, "GOP will take your Medicare". Then, selfish interests like forgive my student loans.
- Guilt driven successful people. Think that sudden riches makes them morally superior and feel guilty that they "won life's lottery" and want to share not just their resources, but yours too to uplift the downtrodden. Wracked by guilt.
- Union voters. That block is weakening, but you still have "Daddy was a Democrat, Granddaddy was a Democrat, I'm a Democrat, and by God my kids will be too!" they don't realize where the Democrat Party has been too.
- New Coalition of Dem voters I.E. "The Land of Misfit Toys". Another and more accurate term for Indignity politics.
- The Green Movement. Many of these want to live is chic urban neighborhoods within walking distance of their favorite celebrity chef during the week, and then they want EVERYTHING else in this country beyond 30 minutes from their front door to be pristine wilderness for them to hike and mountain bike in. They want the world to be Seattle or Portland. They hate suburbia and value trees and animals 'rights over people because mommy and daddy didn't love them as children.
They list goes on, and most Lefties will fit into multiple pigeon holes. This will get you started.
One will be a Pro Choice chick who isn't politically savvy and just thinks everyone should get along and the obvious reason Blacks in urban cities have such a crappy life is that slavery from 200 years ago still haunts their DNA and ALL White people are culpable.
A canyon, across which a bridge cannot be built, ever.
Yes. I want these knuckle dragging idiots to look in the mirror.
I think they likely love what they see when they look in the mirror.
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
Exactly. A lot of Rs had to hold their nose to vote for Bush Sr Jr , McCain and Romney.
Don't you think that's why we have the term "Swing Voters"?
The original question is directed toward Liberals, not Swing Voters.
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
I think so but you have to be pretty low information to vote for Marxism as outlined in the OP because you don't like a candidate's personality.
For instance, I am not crazy about either of the GOP Senate candidates in the upcoming Georgia runoff. But I am voting for both because I don't want to turn the country over to Harris , Schumer, Pelousy, and company.
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
I think so but you have to be pretty low information to vote for Marxism as outlined in the OP because you don't like a candidate's personality.
Agreed. I think it’s also likely that a lot of em’ are one issue voters...like abortion for example. Imagine bein’ so bloodthirsty that the thought of not bein’ able rip off the limbs of babies sends you into a rage. So much so that you’re willing to vote for Marxism as outlined in the OP in order to continue to be able to do it.
Seems the numbers are fairly close on those that voted for Trump vs those who voted for Biden.
Best to do when it's a 1 on 1.
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
And a lot of those voted on who the press says Trump is rather than finding out for themselves.
They won't tell you the truth. They may not understand themselves. They come in different flavors.
- You have the ignorant masses that believe the gov't just prints money and that they should get more of it without reaching consequences
- You have the gullible that believe the MSM and Hollywood hype that their side is all rainbows and unicorns while the GOP is run by Darth Vader and Emperor (When actually it is the other way around)
- You have the misfits that hate themselves and hate America for it's its exceptionalism. The scrawny skate board dudes that spend their teens and and twenties smoking weed and cruising around around, siting on the corner playing the guitar. The pale chubby chick that can't get laid and has no BFF girls to hang with They are angry that Mother Nature hit them with the ugly stick.
- You have the kids with undiagnosed mental health health issues (or diagnosed). ADD, ADHD (yes, it's real) Bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, malignant narcissists etc that can't fit in
- White guilt, mostly harbored by people that have almost no contact growing up with people of color. In this category you have the White kids indoctrinated by the educational system and the MSM and adult Whites that live in the gated communities that just thin that urban poverty is purely a product of racism.
- You have the emotional set that votes for who they think is nice, or looks most attractive, or that gets the approval and respect of the hosts on The View. These people just are uninformed and make a decision so that they don't need to defend their decision. They go with what they think the mainstream consensus is so that they fit in.
- You have the anarchist and real communists that are out to destroy the very fabric and order of America and trash it to the ground. The ones at the top want revolution so they can take over. Other just want to destroy the US and turn into a semi functioning cesspool like Mexico.
- Then you have the single issue voters. #1 is the Roe V. Wade group. Next, "GOP will take your Medicare". Then, selfish interests like forgive my student loans.
- Guilt driven successful people. Think that sudden riches makes them morally superior and feel guilty that they "won life's lottery" and want to share not just their resources, but yours too to uplift the downtrodden. Wracked by guilt.
- Union voters. That block is weakening, but you still have "Daddy was a Democrat, Granddaddy was a Democrat, I'm a Democrat, and by God my kids will be too!" they don't realize where the Democrat Party has been too.
- New Coalition of Dem voters I.E. "The Land of Misfit Toys". Another and more accurate term for Indignity politics.
- The Green Movement. Many of these want to live is chic urban neighborhoods within walking distance of their favorite celebrity chef during the week, and then they want EVERYTHING else in this country beyond 30 minutes from their front door to be pristine wilderness for them to hike and mountain bike in. They want the world to be Seattle or Portland. They hate suburbia and value trees and animals 'rights over people because mommy and daddy didn't love them as children.
They list goes on, and most Lefties will fit into multiple pigeon holes. This will get you started.
One will be a Pro Choice chick who isn't politically savvy and just thinks everyone should get along and the obvious reason Blacks in urban cities have such a crappy life is that slavery from 200 years ago still haunts their DNA and ALL White people are culpable.
Excellent post.
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
And a lot of those voted on who the press says Trump is rather than finding out for themselves.
No doubt.
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
Exactly. A lot of Rs had to hold their nose to vote for Bush Sr Jr , McCain and Romney.
Don't you think that's why we have the term "Swing Voters"?
The original question is directed toward Liberals, not Swing Voters.
I think most Ds will never pull the lever for R just as most Rs will never pull the vote for D. That’s the roughly 90%
Those are the original liberals antlers and I were talking about.
Good thoughts shared.
Let’s simplify the discussion by saying Liberal and Conservative.
With ideologies that are in direct conflict with the founding of our country how do you liberals justify supporting the things that I outlined in the OP? Please disregard your like or dislike of a particular candidate. How in the he ll do you justify voting for a demented man who is supporting Marxist views by default if not openly?
Way past listening to any asswipe who says he is conservative but not a republican. Mb
Way past listening to any asswipe who says he is conservative but not a republican. Mb
I don’t think you had too many conservatives pulling the lever other than R... eating our own , that’s not the battle
Way past listening to any asswipe who says he is conservative but not a republican. Mb
I guess I’m an asswipe then. I find the Republican Party to be much more liberal than I am and much less supportive of the constitution. They left me behind when Ronald Regan died.
Maybe you can ‘spain how daddy and baby Bush were conservatives?
Let’s simplify the discussion by saying Liberal and Conservative.
‘Liberal’ is like rape, and ‘conservative’ is like consensual sex.
https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2020/12/fear-resentment-and-despair-triad-of.htmlWhat we are therefore seeing here is a very pure form of Sorathic negation. Even the Global Establishment themselves, the people who are imposing societal destruction on the world, do not understand why they are doing this work of societal destruction.
They insist upon its necessity; but they cannot coherently explain it!
The reason is that the 'need' for societal destruction cannot be explained in materialistic terms - which are the only terms possible in public discourse; and among those who deny the reality of God and creation.
The true reason for societal destruction is that human society is Good and therefore needs to be destroyed. Society between Men is indeed one of the great and essential Goods of this mortal world; as Men at all times, everywhere, have acknowledged and acted-upon - quite naturally and spontaneously.
The idea that this can and should be dispensed with is monstrous, outrageous and ridiculous... for anyone who is Not deep into the servitude of Satan. But then, that is precisely what we are dealing-with.
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
I think so but you have to be pretty low information to vote for Marxism as outlined in the OP because you don't like a candidate's personality.
For instance, I am not crazy about either of the GOP Senate candidates in the upcoming Georgia runoff. But I am voting for both because I don't want to turn the country over to Harris , Schumer, Pelousy, and company.
I've talked to some and "low information" is spot on. And, "I don't like Trump".
Way past listening to any asswipe who says he is conservative but not a republican. Mb
You'd search long and hard to find a Conservative Rino too..
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
Prime example of cutting off one's nose to spite his face.
https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2020/12/fear-resentment-and-despair-triad-of.htmlWhat we are therefore seeing here is a very pure form of Sorathic negation. Even the Global Establishment themselves, the people who are imposing societal destruction on the world, do not understand why they are doing this work of societal destruction.
They insist upon its necessity; but they cannot coherently explain it!
The reason is that the 'need' for societal destruction cannot be explained in materialistic terms - which are the only terms possible in public discourse; and among those who deny the reality of God and creation.
The true reason for societal destruction is that human society is Good and therefore needs to be destroyed. Society between Men is indeed one of the great and essential Goods of this mortal world; as Men at all times, everywhere, have acknowledged and acted-upon - quite naturally and spontaneously.
The idea that this can and should be dispensed with is monstrous, outrageous and ridiculous... for anyone who is Not deep into the servitude of Satan. But then, that is precisely what we are dealing-with. The first rule of Sorathic Negation: Nobody talks about Sorathic Negation!
https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2020/12/fear-resentment-and-despair-triad-of.htmlWhat we are therefore seeing here is a very pure form of Sorathic negation. Even the Global Establishment themselves, the people who are imposing societal destruction on the world, do not understand why they are doing this work of societal destruction.
They insist upon its necessity; but they cannot coherently explain it!
The reason is that the 'need' for societal destruction cannot be explained in materialistic terms - which are the only terms possible in public discourse; and among those who deny the reality of God and creation.
The true reason for societal destruction is that human society is Good and therefore needs to be destroyed. Society between Men is indeed one of the great and essential Goods of this mortal world; as Men at all times, everywhere, have acknowledged and acted-upon - quite naturally and spontaneously.
The idea that this can and should be dispensed with is monstrous, outrageous and ridiculous... for anyone who is Not deep into the servitude of Satan. But then, that is precisely what we are dealing-with. Good summation right there.
"Conservatives" have already given up most everything that I would like to have been conserved. I don't even call myself "conservative", since that word means nothing anymore.
Having little enough in common with most "conservatives" today, I definitely have NOTHING in common with leftists/liberals/communists.
I'd like to hear Second Amendment Charlie (aka SACharlie) attempt to reconcile his moniker with his support of Biden. I've asked him to several times. Crickets.
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
A distinction without a difference.
I'd like to hear Second Amendment Charlie (aka SACharlie) attempt to reconcile his moniker with his support of Biden. I've asked him to several times. Crickets.
I’d like to hear that explanation also. I truly cannot reconcile in my thinking the logic that liberals apply. Neither can I find any middle ground that we share. I will make a distinction between modern liberals and classic liberals. I see no example of the later on this forum.
Way past listening to any asswipe who says he is conservative but not a republican. Mb
I ascribe to Conservatism as an ideology and vote for Republicans but I am not a Republican I’m a Conservative.
If you think Republicans are Conservative (I use the cap C on purpose) you really need to read up on history and political philosophy.
The fact that Republicans are driving over a cliff at 55 mph vs 110 mph leaves me no choice but to vote for them for now, but as soon as the tides turn and a third party takes shape around Conservative principles I’m outta here.
I think that’s along the line of what was meant by the OP’s comment and if you don’t agree you’re free to stay in the very Liberal Republican Party, and we’ll say good riddance.
I consider myself a Conservative Libertarian.I vote Republican because it is the closest thing to Conservative,but do not consider many Republicans as Constitutional Conservatives.Republicans can be anything from money hungry,power grabbing Elitists(The Bush family) (Romney) to out right RINO`s or folks like Senator Cruz a Constitutional Conservative.Our President is a Republican in name because you have to be a member of one of the two major political Parties to win the Presidency.Anyone who thinks you must be a Republican to be a true Conservative American can suck a bag of Dicks.
Anyone who thinks you must be a Republican to be a true Conservative American can suck a bag of Dicks.
lol
I concur.
They are cheating, lying, and thieving anti-American liberal socialist communist marxist politicians which need to be ostracized ASAP.
No disrespect but not sure why people keep posting these reach around threads to people who clearly either hate America, or are clueless, or are brainwashed. All they do is state the obvious to everyone with 3 brain cells and solicit idiotic arguments from people with zero logic or knowledge of anything.
The only thing we have in common is money. The want us to work hard to make money so they can take it to give to those that don't wish to work.
No disrespect but not sure why people keep posting these reach around threads to people who clearly either hate America, or are clueless, or are brainwashed. All they do is state the obvious to everyone with 3 brain cells and solicit idiotic arguments from people with zero logic or knowledge of anything.
This thread wasn’t started as a “reach around” thread. I cannot see the common ground that modern liberalism has with my conservative views. I think that it would be wonderful for one of these guys to step
Up and help me understand.
No disrespect but not sure why people keep posting these reach around threads to people who clearly either hate America, or are clueless, or are brainwashed. All they do is state the obvious to everyone with 3 brain cells and solicit idiotic arguments from people with zero logic or knowledge of anything.
This thread wasn’t started as a “reach around” thread. I cannot see the common ground that modern liberalism has with my conservative views. I think that it would be wonderful for one of these guys to step Up and help me understand.
That's my whole point. They have no ability to acknowledge any view other than their own. See my tag line.
Has the OP’s question been answered by a liberal yet?
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
Maybe, but since Trump received 10 million more votes this time than he did in 16 I doubt it. Also, voting against someone who is making it so a person can have a good job and financial success is like cutting your throat to stop COVID. It don't make sense.
We’re way past the time for talkin’.
Curious as to your plan then.
We’re way past the time for talkin’.
Curious as to your plan then.
Agitation!
What does a conservative American have in common with you?
You voted for a man with obvious mental decline, most likely Alzheimer’s disease. You voted for him to sit as the president of the United States for the next four years.
You support a party that openly embraces Marxism. Seriously. The Democrat party embraces Marxism.ANTIFA and BLM are extensions of that party and are not denounced by leaders who are Democrat or the Democrat party. Remember Stalin, the Cold War, the millions of people killed for political purposes?
You support a party who’s members say such things as Chuck Schumer recently blurted out. “Let’s win Georgia then change America”. That is a treasonous statement. It is not the job of a politician to change the country. Their purpose is in part to uphold the constitution but primarily to govern according to the guidelines that it outlines.
You support a party that not only supports but has pushed an agenda on abortion that encourages the killing of babies through the full three trimesters of pregnancy and the killing or allowing to die of any aborted baby who survives a murder attempt in their life.
I could go on with a long list which would include things such as suppression of speech, gun control, monitoring of activities, etc.
If you are a liberal or Democrat please tell me what I have in common with you other than breathing air?
God, what a load of dung. I mean really what does the GOP currently stand for other than defending or ignoring Donald's self serving, crazy, lying, too busy with golf to put in the work? Why are they seemly with Donald? Because of people like YOU. They know Donald is garbage but don't say anything because of people like YOU, his base. They put their political careers ahead of the good of the country. Because they want to get elected. Because of people like YOU. Who have recently fled to fringe news like OANN and the like, like rats from a sinking boat. Because, you can't handle the truth that Donald LOST! Some of you seem like shell shocked Germans at the end of WW II walking around in disbelief.
Think about what was elected. Higher taxes, more wars, blm and antifa destroying businesses and homes, higher regulations, tougher climate regulation, destruction of coal , oil, nuclear energy, medicare for all, social security for all, open borders for any country to come here, more regulations from the united nations, gun confiscation, gun taxes on what they let you keep, luxury taxes, adding to the supreme court judges, making DC a state, making portico a state, and making somalia a state., This will just be biden's 2nd day. I am sure I missed some what they want to do because harris her own agenda too. Then there are the other erratic democrats. Dying stock market too and businesses going back over seas..
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
I think so but you have to be pretty low information to vote for Marxism as outlined in the OP because you don't like a candidate's personality.
Agreed. I think it’s also likely that a lot of em’ are one issue voters...like abortion for example. Imagine bein’ so bloodthirsty that the thought of not bein’ able rip off the limbs of babies sends you into a rage. So much so that you’re willing to vote for Marxism as outlined in the OP in order to continue to be able to do it.
Exactly
What does a conservative American have in common with you?
You voted for a man with obvious mental decline, most likely Alzheimer’s disease. You voted for him to sit as the president of the United States for the next four years.
You support a party that openly embraces Marxism. Seriously. The Democrat party embraces Marxism.ANTIFA and BLM are extensions of that party and are not denounced by leaders who are Democrat or the Democrat party. Remember Stalin, the Cold War, the millions of people killed for political purposes?
You support a party who’s members say such things as Chuck Schumer recently blurted out. “Let’s win Georgia then change America”. That is a treasonous statement. It is not the job of a politician to change the country. Their purpose is in part to uphold the constitution but primarily to govern according to the guidelines that it outlines.
You support a party that not only supports but has pushed an agenda on abortion that encourages the killing of babies through the full three trimesters of pregnancy and the killing or allowing to die of any aborted baby who survives a murder attempt in their life.
I could go on with a long list which would include things such as suppression of speech, gun control, monitoring of activities, etc.
If you are a liberal or Democrat please tell me what I have in common with you other than breathing air?
God, what a load of dung. I mean really what does the GOP currently stand for other than defending or ignoring Donald's self serving, crazy, lying, too busy with golf to put in the work? Why are they seemly with Donald? Because of people like YOU. They know Donald is garbage but don't say anything because of people like YOU, his base. They put their political careers ahead of the good of the country. Because they want to get elected. Because of people like YOU. Who have recently fled to fringe news like OANN and the like, like rats from a sinking boat. Because, you can't handle the truth that Donald LOST! Some of you seem like shell shocked Germans at the end of WW II walking around in disbelief.
Has the OP’s question been answered by a liberal yet?
One at least wrote something (quoted above) but he damn sure did not answer the question.
What does a conservative American have in common with you?
You voted for a man with obvious mental decline, most likely Alzheimer’s disease. You voted for him to sit as the president of the United States for the next four years.
You support a party that openly embraces Marxism. Seriously. The Democrat party embraces Marxism.ANTIFA and BLM are extensions of that party and are not denounced by leaders who are Democrat or the Democrat party. Remember Stalin, the Cold War, the millions of people killed for political purposes?
You support a party who’s members say such things as Chuck Schumer recently blurted out. “Let’s win Georgia then change America”. That is a treasonous statement. It is not the job of a politician to change the country. Their purpose is in part to uphold the constitution but primarily to govern according to the guidelines that it outlines.
You support a party that not only supports but has pushed an agenda on abortion that encourages the killing of babies through the full three trimesters of pregnancy and the killing or allowing to die of any aborted baby who survives a murder attempt in their life.
I could go on with a long list which would include things such as suppression of speech, gun control, monitoring of activities, etc.
If you are a liberal or Democrat please tell me what I have in common with you other than breathing air?
God, what a load of dung. I mean really what does the GOP currently stand for other than defending or ignoring Donald's self serving, crazy, lying, too busy with golf to put in the work? Why are they seemly with Donald? Because of people like YOU. They know Donald is garbage but don't say anything because of people like YOU, his base. They put their political careers ahead of the good of the country. Because they want to get elected. Because of people like YOU. Who have recently fled to fringe news like OANN and the like, like rats from a sinking boat. Because, you can't handle the truth that Donald LOST! Some of you seem like shell shocked Germans at the end of WW II walking around in disbelief.
Please don’t deflect and instead answer the OP’s question.
Inquiring minds want to know
What does a conservative American have in common with you?
You voted for a man with obvious mental decline, most likely Alzheimer’s disease. You voted for him to sit as the president of the United States for the next four years.
You support a party that openly embraces Marxism. Seriously. The Democrat party embraces Marxism.ANTIFA and BLM are extensions of that party and are not denounced by leaders who are Democrat or the Democrat party. Remember Stalin, the Cold War, the millions of people killed for political purposes?
You support a party who’s members say such things as Chuck Schumer recently blurted out. “Let’s win Georgia then change America”. That is a treasonous statement. It is not the job of a politician to change the country. Their purpose is in part to uphold the constitution but primarily to govern according to the guidelines that it outlines.
You support a party that not only supports but has pushed an agenda on abortion that encourages the killing of babies through the full three trimesters of pregnancy and the killing or allowing to die of any aborted baby who survives a murder attempt in their life.
I could go on with a long list which would include things such as suppression of speech, gun control, monitoring of activities, etc.
If you are a liberal or Democrat please tell me what I have in common with you other than breathing air?
Well, we are definitely not simple minded like you are. Having a studer isn't a sign of alzheimers. Wanting all Americans to have healthcare is not Marxism. No one embraces antifa. Believing someone regardless of the color of their skin should have the same rights and protections under the law, is part of the constitution. Of course, in your world, embracing the proud boys and all their white supremacist friends is ok. Funny you mention Stalin when Trump practically worships the ground his successor Putin walks on. There is a difference between encouraging abortion and giving a woman a right to choose what she does with her body. You being the simpleton can't seem to grasp that. Changing America isn't treasonous. Changes can be made without violating the constitution. I am sure you have a long list of very simplistic ideas that are easily dismissed. I guess we don't have anything in common.
What does a conservative American have in common with you?
You voted for a man with obvious mental decline, most likely Alzheimer’s disease. You voted for him to sit as the president of the United States for the next four years.
You support a party that openly embraces Marxism. Seriously. The Democrat party embraces Marxism.ANTIFA and BLM are extensions of that party and are not denounced by leaders who are Democrat or the Democrat party. Remember Stalin, the Cold War, the millions of people killed for political purposes?
You support a party who’s members say such things as Chuck Schumer recently blurted out. “Let’s win Georgia then change America”. That is a treasonous statement. It is not the job of a politician to change the country. Their purpose is in part to uphold the constitution but primarily to govern according to the guidelines that it outlines.
You support a party that not only supports but has pushed an agenda on abortion that encourages the killing of babies through the full three trimesters of pregnancy and the killing or allowing to die of any aborted baby who survives a murder attempt in their life.
I could go on with a long list which would include things such as suppression of speech, gun control, monitoring of activities, etc.
If you are a liberal or Democrat please tell me what I have in common with you other than breathing air?
Well, we are definitely not simple minded like you are. Having a studer isn't a sign of alzheimers. Wanting all Americans to have healthcare is not Marxism. No one embraces antifa. Believing someone regardless of the color of their skin should have the same rights and protections under the law, is part of the constitution. Of course, in your world, embracing the proud boys and all their white supremacist friends is ok. Funny you mention Stalin when Trump practically worships the ground his successor Putin walks on. There is a difference between encouraging abortion and giving a woman a right to choose what she does with her body. You being the simpleton can't seem to grasp that. Changing America isn't treasonous. Changes can be made without violating the constitution. I am sure you have a long list of very simplistic ideas that are easily dismissed. I guess we don't have anything in common.
Not simple minded but you can't spell "stutter". HAAHAAHAHAHAA. What a fuggin stupid bastard ! Just like all of you Demtards. Oh, and think about this too. Every time a woman has an abortion, a man also loses a son or daughter and HE has NO SAY in the matter. I know a man who was devastated when his fiance' decided to get an abortion against his wishes and witnessed the gut wrenching emotional pain he endured on the day she went and had his child killed. It was not pretty and left a permanent scar on his soul.
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
That makes 'em even dumber. You're not voting for a man, a person; you're voting for the party's platform & ideology.
Wanting all Americans to have healthcare is not Marxism.
That's a typical liberal statist move. Say something like "It's for the children" or "I want all Americans to have health care" to put a happy face on it. Who could be against children or people having health care?
What those who believe in the Constitution are against is government enforced theft, the main tool of you statist types.
Dontcha think that a LOT of em’ voted ‘against’ Trump instead of ‘for’ Biden...?
That makes 'em even dumber. You're not voting for a man, a person; you're voting for the party's platform & ideology.
It's like "I don't like these brussels sprouts, please bring me a sh
it sandwich."
I don't like Democrats or Republicans. That's why I voted for Trump the first time and for sure why I did the second time. He's been fighting them both. That is why the Democrats are out to destroy him and why the Republicans just stand by and watch like neutered dogs at a gang bang.
What does a conservative American have in common with you?
You voted for a man with obvious mental decline, most likely Alzheimer’s disease. You voted for him to sit as the president of the United States for the next four years.
You support a party that openly embraces Marxism. Seriously. The Democrat party embraces Marxism.ANTIFA and BLM are extensions of that party and are not denounced by leaders who are Democrat or the Democrat party. Remember Stalin, the Cold War, the millions of people killed for political purposes?
You support a party who’s members say such things as Chuck Schumer recently blurted out. “Let’s win Georgia then change America”. That is a treasonous statement. It is not the job of a politician to change the country. Their purpose is in part to uphold the constitution but primarily to govern according to the guidelines that it outlines.
You support a party that not only supports but has pushed an agenda on abortion that encourages the killing of babies through the full three trimesters of pregnancy and the killing or allowing to die of any aborted baby who survives a murder attempt in their life.
I could go on with a long list which would include things such as suppression of speech, gun control, monitoring of activities, etc.
If you are a liberal or Democrat please tell me what I have in common with you other than breathing air?
Well, we are definitely not simple minded like you are. Having a studer isn't a sign of alzheimers. Wanting all Americans to have healthcare is not Marxism. No one embraces antifa. Believing someone regardless of the color of their skin should have the same rights and protections under the law, is part of the constitution. Of course, in your world, embracing the proud boys and all their white supremacist friends is ok. Funny you mention Stalin when Trump practically worships the ground his successor Putin walks on. There is a difference between encouraging abortion and giving a woman a right to choose what she does with her body. You being the simpleton can't seem to grasp that. Changing America isn't treasonous. Changes can be made without violating the constitution. I am sure you have a long list of very simplistic ideas that are easily dismissed. I guess we don't have anything in common.
Practically all of this is horse crap.
1 To my knowledge, Trump never did anything "racist" or even "homophobic", placing both minorities and queers in his govt. Calling illegal latinos illegal is not racist.
2 Trump put sanctions on Putin and Russia and more importantly, his energy policy put a hurting on them. The whole Russia thing has been horse crap from day one.
3. Leftist mayors in Democrat controlled cities looked the other way while ANTIFA burned them down. Kameltoe Harris even gave money to get them out of jail. Sleepy Joe said they were not an organization but an "idea".
4. Socialized medicine is Socialism by definition. It didn't work and won't work.
No we don't have anything in common because you are a low information idiot.
I consider myself a Conservative Libertarian.I vote Republican because it is the closest thing to Conservative,but do not consider many Republicans as Constitutional Conservatives.Republicans can be anything from money hungry,power grabbing Elitists(The Bush family) (Romney) to out right RINO`s or folks like Senator Cruz a Constitutional Conservative.Our President is a Republican in name because you have to be a member of one of the two major political Parties to win the Presidency.Anyone who thinks you must be a Republican to be a true Conservative American can suck a bag of Dicks.
ok, but other than libetarians, the non-Repub conservatives are doing a good job of hiding
I have to admit, I didn't think any of them would answer but I can tell by the answers that they are dumber than I thought they were.
I think if one of them took the time to watch one of the Walter Williams videos that were popping up after his recent passing it would put them into anaphylactic shock.
What does a conservative American have in common with you?
You voted for a man with obvious mental decline, most likely Alzheimer’s disease. You voted for him to sit as the president of the United States for the next four years.
You support a party that openly embraces Marxism. Seriously. The Democrat party embraces Marxism.ANTIFA and BLM are extensions of that party and are not denounced by leaders who are Democrat or the Democrat party. Remember Stalin, the Cold War, the millions of people killed for political purposes?
You support a party who’s members say such things as Chuck Schumer recently blurted out. “Let’s win Georgia then change America”. That is a treasonous statement. It is not the job of a politician to change the country. Their purpose is in part to uphold the constitution but primarily to govern according to the guidelines that it outlines.
You support a party that not only supports but has pushed an agenda on abortion that encourages the killing of babies through the full three trimesters of pregnancy and the killing or allowing to die of any aborted baby who survives a murder attempt in their life.
I could go on with a long list which would include things such as suppression of speech, gun control, monitoring of activities, etc.
If you are a liberal or Democrat please tell me what I have in common with you other than breathing air?
Well, we are definitely not simple minded like you are. Having a studer isn't a sign of alzheimers. Wanting all Americans to have healthcare is not Marxism. No one embraces antifa. Believing someone regardless of the color of their skin should have the same rights and protections under the law, is part of the constitution. Of course, in your world, embracing the proud boys and all their white supremacist friends is ok. Funny you mention Stalin when Trump practically worships the ground his successor Putin walks on. There is a difference between encouraging abortion and giving a woman a right to choose what she does with her body. You being the simpleton can't seem to grasp that. Changing America isn't treasonous. Changes can be made without violating the constitution. I am sure you have a long list of very simplistic ideas that are easily dismissed. I guess we don't have anything in common.
JimFromTN,
Wanting all Americans to have healthcare might not be Marxism, but it certainly is socialism. Healthcare is a privilege, not a right. There is no mention of healthcare as a right in the Constitution. The privilege to have healthcare is earned by a person’s effort and work, no different than the privilege to have housing and food on the table, which are also not mentioned in the Constitution.
Regarding your remark about ANTIFA, you do realize that during the height of the summer ANTIFA riots, and there was no condemnation from the Democrat party and their candidates even though it was exactly during their Democratic Convention. Even now, there is little to no condemnation for BLM and ANTIFA even though quite a few law enforcement officer were killed or injured during these riots. For that, regarding the Democrat Party and its association with BLM and ANTIFA and the riots, silence from the Democrat Party is consent. It is tacit approval. Let alone that some members of the Democrat Party were financial supporting the BLM and ANTIFA movements.
Regarding your comment and the rights and protections under the law, I am not sure what you are referring to. But the right for women and blacks to vote were passed by majority Republican held Congress, and vehemently against the wishes of the minority held Democrat Congress.
Both the social programs of Social Security and Medicare Acts were passed while under Democrat presidents. Both these Social programs, along with the Pentagon budget, consume roughly 2/3 of the US budget. Both of these programs were social programs. And as we know, the Social Security program will go unfunded well within about 10 years. The Medicare Program is also in trouble. So these programs, while well intended, were kind of pie in the sky programs that now are a concrete anchor around our Nation’s neck that likely will be dragging us down. By the way, the current national debt calculates that every man, women and child each owes roughly $65,000 to.
You mention the Proud Boys. I am sure you are aware that the leader of the Proud Boys is of black/Jamaican heritage.
And I am sure you are also historically aware that the KKK was formed in the Democrat South, and the Democrat Party at the time openly supported the KKK and it was the Republican Party that resisted the KKK.
The OP did make it clear however to distinguish between the conservative movement and the Republican Party, so when I mention the Republican Party above, the conservative moment as he describes is not necessarily the same thing as my reference to the Republicans Party above. But certainly, the current Republican Party leans more toward conservatism than the liberal leaning Democrat Party.
Regarding your comment regarding abortion, those too were sponsored and pushed forward by the Democrat Party. There are many views in the Democrat Party regarding abortion, some in the Party now endorse the idea of late term abortions. But certainly, a women’s “right” to end her pregnancy does not take into account the rights of the baby to live nor the father’s right to have his child born.
Wanting all Americans to have healthcare might not be Marxism, but it certainly is socialism.
A small nitpick: Wanting everybody to have healthcare isn't socialism. The mechanism leftists/statists want to use is the problem.
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”
― James Madison
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”
― James Madison
There was a congressman from Tennessee that hit upon this very same thing. His name was David Crockett
I have to admit, I didn't think any of them would answer but I can tell by the answers that they are dumber than I thought they were.
12344mag,
It appears you might be correct.
Then we have the anti gun trolls like Bennie who don't even hunt or fish
"Sent a letter to NRA to remove me from their membership last week. Stating to them I can no longer in good conscience continue to be a member of their organization. Their agenda is radical-to oppose every and any legislation. And they vilify all who opposes that agenda. So flame on with immature middle fingers and comments. I expect nothing less from many on this site. I could care less.""
What does a conservative American have in common with you?
You voted for a man with obvious mental decline, most likely Alzheimer’s disease. You voted for him to sit as the president of the United States for the next four years.
You support a party that openly embraces Marxism. Seriously. The Democrat party embraces Marxism.ANTIFA and BLM are extensions of that party and are not denounced by leaders who are Democrat or the Democrat party. Remember Stalin, the Cold War, the millions of people killed for political purposes?
You support a party who’s members say such things as Chuck Schumer recently blurted out. “Let’s win Georgia then change America”. That is a treasonous statement. It is not the job of a politician to change the country. Their purpose is in part to uphold the constitution but primarily to govern according to the guidelines that it outlines.
You support a party that not only supports but has pushed an agenda on abortion that encourages the killing of babies through the full three trimesters of pregnancy and the killing or allowing to die of any aborted baby who survives a murder attempt in their life.
I could go on with a long list which would include things such as suppression of speech, gun control, monitoring of activities, etc.
If you are a liberal or Democrat please tell me what I have in common with you other than breathing air?
God, what a load of dung. I mean really what does the GOP currently stand for other than defending or ignoring Donald's self serving, crazy, lying, too busy with golf to put in the work? Why are they seemly with Donald? Because of people like YOU. They know Donald is garbage but don't say anything because of people like YOU, his base. They put their political careers ahead of the good of the country. Because they want to get elected. Because of people like YOU. Who have recently fled to fringe news like OANN and the like, like rats from a sinking boat. Because, you can't handle the truth that Donald LOST! Some of you seem like shell shocked Germans at the end of WW II walking around in disbelief.
. [b]Healthcare is a privilege, not a right [b]
I would say it’s a service but other than that you are correct.
There is no common culture anymore.
I have cousins wish my death over voting for trump.
America is irrevocably broken. And China pulls strings and rejoices while we eat our own.
Can the members of the Campfire who are liberal leaning (maybe even those who voted for Biden) please answer the OP’s question.
Well. We had two attempt answers kinda sorta. Well they really didn't answer the questions just a bunch of emotional name calling. I really had a hard time getting past the STUTER.
I had to pull out my decoder ring. I'm about through the first response but the way it's looking I'm gonna have to run my cyphering through a Dominion machine to make any sense out of it.
My request still stands. If there are any intelligent liberals be you Neo-Liberal or Classic-Liberal I'm looking for what common ground we have to work from. Your Junior members aren't up to speed on the talking points.
Then we have the anti gun trolls like Bennie who don't even hunt or fish
"Sent a letter to NRA to remove me from their membership last week. Stating to them I can no longer in good conscience continue to be a member of their organization. Their agenda is radical-to oppose every and any legislation. And they vilify all who opposes that agenda. So flame on with immature middle fingers and comments. I expect nothing less from many on this site. I could care less.""
[quote=benquick]God, what a load of dung. I mean really what does the GOP currently stand for other than defending or ignoring Donald's self serving, crazy, lying, too busy with golf to put in the work? Why are they seemly with Donald? Because of people like YOU. They know Donald is garbage but don't say anything because of people like YOU, his base. They put their political careers ahead of the good of the country. Because they want to get elected. Because of people like YOU. Who have recently fled to fringe news like OANN and the like, like rats from a sinking boat. Because, you can't handle the truth that Donald LOST! Some of you seem like shell shocked Germans at the end of WW II walking around in disbelief.
Lol, what a chick, just a 9th grade chick.
Lol, I wonder if he actually has a menstrual period as well......LMAO.
Then we have the anti gun trolls like Bennie who don't even hunt or fish
"Sent a letter to NRA to remove me from their membership last week. Stating to them I can no longer in good conscience continue to be a member of their organization. Their agenda is radical-to oppose every and any legislation. And they vilify all who opposes that agenda. So flame on with immature middle fingers and comments. I expect nothing less from many on this site. I could care less.""
Yeah support the NRA, Wayne needs another silk suit. And YOU have NO PROBLEM paying for it. I do.
Your Junior members aren't up to speed on the talking points.
And the mob here is? Really? They can not accept the realty Donald lost. Instead they dig deeper into the rabbit hole of Newsmax and the like, which feeds their delusions. Delusions of the "deep state" and the straw villains like Soros that stole the election. JFC, that is just plain weird. Looking at the "True Patriots" a few weeks back on the steps of the Michigan capitol with their ARs ,smoking cigarettes, hat on backwards was telling. These clowns are nuts. And some of them are currently in jail for the plot to murder the governor of that state. You OK with that?
Can the members of the Campfire who are liberal leaning (maybe even those who voted for Biden) please answer the OP’s question.
He wants a serious answer from a clown?
Your Junior members aren't up to speed on the talking points.
And the mob here is? Really? They can not accept the realty Donald lost. Instead they dig deeper into the rabbit hole of Newsmax and the like, which feeds their delusions. Delusions of the "deep state" and the straw villains like Soros that stole the election. JFC, that is just plain weird.
you are off topic. The question is, with your radical liberal ideology how can the two of us find any common ground from which we see our country progressing. Care to stay on topic and answer the question?
‘Liberal’ is like rape, and ‘conservative’ is like consensual sex.
I keep coming back to this statement. Truth told in it simplest raw form.
Install the like emoticon here
you are off topic. The question is, with your radical liberal ideology how can the two of us find any common ground from which we see our country progressing. Care to stay on topic and answer the question?
1.You call me radical? WTF, this site is INFESTED with radicals of the far extremist right. Some who do mention violence.
2. Common ground as (as far I am concern) the constitution mentions is the life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Healthcare, we all need it. But in this country, even a household with two working parents can't afford it. That needs to be fixed. It is a fundamental concern for millions in this country.
2. Common ground as (as far I am concern) the constitution mentions is the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. Healthcare, we all need it. But in this country, even a household with two working parents can't afford it. That needs to be fixed. It is a fundamental concern for millions in this country.
You write like a hysterical college girl.
You voted for open borders and health care for all. Are you stupid?
There is a lot of common ground amongst Americans since most folks are close to the center actually. With only 2 choices of course there is going to be tension and divide, but rational folks can understand either choice without divulging to name calling and spewing hatred.
Since most folks on here are radical right wingers - and clearly you are OP, it makes sense that you have this false perception that anyone who voted against Trump (AKA the AntiChrist) is a “Marxist”. This is the reason your common ground question doesn’t apply - because you are an extremist and most folks aren’t.
This would be a tough gig for anyone from the left to feel like they could have honest dialogue.
Sure some would, but there’s enough p’oed old timers around here that eventually they’re just gonna get tongue whipped.
By the same token,there’s no one from the left posting here that wants or desires honest dialogue
They’re just chit stirrers and I’d lay $100 everyone of them is of the nerdy got picked on most of my life type guys.
Most go on to successful careers and life is much better for them as an adult. Some even become doctors. 🤷🏻♂️ People are more polite as adults in general.
It is the hallways and playgrounds that left scars upon them, deep gnashing emotional scars. They will rarely stand up in a heated situation where violence seems imminent. And when they do, they will quickly back down if confronted with true violence. Often you can see it in their eyes just via casual conversation.
I feel for them in some small part, they’re the men that have already died by a thousand cuts, rather than one good death.
Common ground might be found in the Preamble to the US Constitution. It lays out some lofty goals to "promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty". How we go about promoting the general welfare and securing liberty are good debates to have so long as we conduct those debates with a degree of integrity. Dishonesty does a disservice to working on those goals.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America".
There is a lot of common ground amongst Americans since most folks are close to the center actually. With only 2 choices of course there is going to be tension and divide, but rational folks can understand either choice without divulging to name calling and spewing hatred.
Since most folks on here are radical right wingers - and clearly you are OP, it makes sense that you have this false perception that anyone who voted against Trump (AKA the AntiChrist) is a “Marxist”. This is the reason your common ground question doesn’t apply - because you are an extremist and most folks aren’t.
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"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America".
That’s the best thing you’ve ever said on here. 😉
Fu.ck common ground.
It’s either in the Constitution or it’s not. No bullshit interpretations of Liberty being synonymous with healthcare.
Unconditional surrender!.....NO TERMS!
We're a nation with Patriots living with Traiters now more or less. Not sure which outnumbers the other.
The states that still have a Republican majority should try to peacefully secede now, in my opinion...It's not going to get any better for them if the Democrats manage to get the Supreme Court stacked, and get DC and PR established as States. Eventually they would get the electoral college ended and go to a popular vote. There is no way to Unite this country at this point, its on a slow painful decline..We Republicans are worlds apart from the Liberals/ Socialist DEMs and it won't change now. It's becoming like a really bad abusive marriage at this point.
We're a nation with Patriots living with Traiters now more or less. Not sure which outnumbers the other.
The states that still have a Republican majority should try to peacefully secede now, in my opinion...It's not going to get any better for them if the Democrats manage to get the Supreme Court stacked, and get DC and PR established as States. Eventually they would get the electoral college ended and go to a popular vote. There is no way to Unite this country at this point, its on a slow painful decline..We Republicans are worlds apart from the Liberals/ Socialist DEMs and it won't change now. It's becoming like a really bad abusive marriage at this point.
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you are off topic. The question is, with your radical liberal ideology how can the two of us find any common ground from which we see our country progressing. Care to stay on topic and answer the question?
1.You call me radical? WTF, this site is INFESTED with radicals of the far extremist right. Some who do mention violence.
2. Common ground as (as far I am concern) the constitution mentions is the life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Healthcare, we all need it. But in this country, even a household with two working parents can't afford it. That needs to be fixed. It is a fundamental concern for millions in this country.
Please reference the first post to this thread and tell me how you think that a party represented by those points will lead us to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. I personally can't see but am open to considering the issue from another angle if I am in error in my thinking.
You mean democrat/liberal losers? They have been and are wrecking our country. Be Well, RZ.
Benquick,
Have you answered IZH27’s question?
I think that we as a nation have more in common than not. The fringes are always the loudest while the middle just shakes it's head and goes about their day. If you ask a question framing the people you want an answer from as idiots, what do you expect in return. You insult everyone who doesn't think exactly the way that you do and then demand answers as to why we can't have open dialogue. It's a ridiculous premise.
Patrick
I think that we as a nation have more in common than not. The fringes are always the loudest while the middle just shakes it's head and goes about their day. If you ask a question framing the people you want an answer from as idiots, what do you expect in return. You insult everyone who doesn't think exactly the way that you do and then demand answers as to why we can't have open dialogue. It's a ridiculous premise.
Patrick
yes we need to reach across the aisle and be more friendly with them
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Can't reply to the OP, because I am neither, liberal or democrat. As to the middle ground some are talking about,that doesn't, nor can it exist. People are either for the United States of America, and the constitution, or against. You can't have it both ways! Chances are some think I am wrong about this. You can have your thoughts on a divided country. No country divided has ever continued to exist! When political party affiliation is more important than the country, we all loose! Thats where we are today, losing our sovereignty, and the masses have their heads buried in the sand, refusing to see the facts! Random thoughts of the day!!
I think that we as a nation have more in common than not. The fringes are always the loudest while the middle just shakes it's head and goes about their day. If you ask a question framing the people you want an answer from as idiots, what do you expect in return. You insult everyone who doesn't think exactly the way that you do and then demand answers as to why we can't have open dialogue. It's a ridiculous premise.
Patrick
I think you are stuck in 1960
Look, I'm not a liberal, I'm not stuck in the 60's. I was trying to answer the op's question. To say you are either for the US or against it is ridiculous. The world is not now, nor has it ever been black or white, right or wrong. To quote Robert Earl Keen live and die by shades of gray. Using an picture of an ANTIFA idiot kicking a guy in the head as an exaple of liberals is like using a picture of the moron running over people with his car at the Tiki torch rally. It's not an accurate representation of the group, just an example of the fringes. The longer this us them circle jerk continues, the harder it's going to be to fix. I'll keep treating people as I would like them to treat me and planning for the worst.
They won't tell you the truth. They may not understand themselves. They come in different flavors.
- You have the ignorant masses that believe the gov't just prints money and that they should get more of it without far reaching consequences
- You have the gullible that believe the MSM and Hollywood hype that their side is all rainbows and unicorns while the GOP is run by Darth Vader and Emperor (When actually it is the other way around)
- You have the misfits that hate themselves and hate America for it's its exceptionalism. The scrawny skate board dudes that spend their teens and twenties smoking weed and cruising around, sitting on the corner playing the guitar. The pale chubby chick that can't get laid and has no BFF girls to hang with They are angry that Mother Nature hit them with the ugly stick.
- You have the kids with undiagnosed mental health issues (or diagnosed). ADD, ADHD (yes, it's real) Bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, malignant narcissists etc. that can't fit in.
- White guilt, mostly harbored by people that have almost no contact growing up with people of color. In this category you have the White kids indoctrinated by the educational system and the MSM and adult Whites that live in the gated communities that just think that urban poverty is purely a product of racism.
- You have the emotional set that votes for who they think is nice, or looks most attractive, or that gets the approval and respect of the hosts on The View. These people just are uninformed and make a decision so that they don't need to defend their position. They go with what they think the mainstream consensus is so that they fit in. The path of least resistence. "The consensus must be right."
- You have the anarchists and real communists that are out to destroy the very fabric and order of America and trash it to the ground. The ones at the top want revolution so they can take over. Others just want to destroy the US and turn into a semi functioning cesspool like Mexico.
- Then you have the single issue voters. #1 is the Roe V. Wade group. Next, "GOP will take your Medicare". Then, selfish interests like "forgive my student loans."
- Guilt driven successful people. Think that sudden riches makes them morally superior and feel guilty that they "won life's lottery" and want to share not just their resources, but yours too to uplift the downtrodden. Wracked by guilt.
- Union voters. That block is weakening, but you still have "Daddy was a Democrat, Granddaddy was a Democrat, I'm a Democrat, and by God my kids will be too!" They don't realize where the Democrat Party has been too.
- The New Coalition of Dem voters I.E. "The Land of Misfit Toys". Another and a more accurate term for Identity Politics.
- The Green Movement. Many of these want to live in chic urban neighborhoods within walking distance of their favorite celebrity chef during the week, and then they want EVERYTHING else in this country beyond 30 minutes from their front door to be pristine wilderness for them to hike and mountain bike in. They want the world to be Seattle or Portland. They hate suburbia and value trees and animal's rights over people because Mommy and Daddy didn't love them as children.
The Animal Rescue world can be thrown in witht he Animal Rights people. Rescue bunch is dominated by barren spinsters that look for fulfillment from pets and the Hallmark Channel. they "hate mean people".
They list goes on, and most Lefties will fit into multiple pigeon holes. This will get you started.
One will be a Pro Choice chick who isn't politically savvy and just thinks everyone should get along and the obvious reason Blacks in urban cities have such a crappy life is that slavery from 200 years ago still haunts their DNA and ALL White people are culpable.
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Look, I'm not a liberal, I'm not stuck in the 60's. I was trying to answer the op's question. To say you are either for the US or against it is ridiculous. The world is not now, nor has it ever been black or white, right or wrong. To quote Robert Earl Keen live and die by shades of gray. Using an picture of an ANTIFA idiot kicking a guy in the head as an exaple of liberals is like using a picture of the moron running over people with his car at the Tiki torch rally. It's not an accurate representation of the group, just an example of the fringes. The longer this us them circle jerk continues, the harder it's going to be to fix. I'll keep treating people as I would like them to treat me and planning for the worst.
How many active ANTIFA groups do you have in your backwater Mississippi? I looked out my window and didn't see ANTIFA so they must not exist."
Completely clueless about what is happening in America
I didn't say ANTIFA doesn't exist. I said they don't represent liberals any more than the Klan represents conservatives. I'm not clueless and I don't live in a backwater. May not have ANTIFA around here but were famous for the Klan. Idiots are idiots regardless of political inclinations.
Anyone who is still middle of the road and can't figure Dems are Marxist is an idiot in this day and age!
Appears dodge268 finds pride in being a middle of the roader.
A hint ... it is black and white whether you want it to be or not
The middle is where all the work gets done, even if you don't like it.
The middle is where all the work gets done, even if you don't like it.
The low info middle of the roaders are about to lose their freedom and become slaves to the leftist.
Where I live in a Seattle suburb, it is 80% democrats, as opposed in inside Seattle it is 95% democrat.
I like to say to them, "I would like to give everyone everything they want for free, but I don't see how we could pay for that."
https://twitter.com/i/status/1190248528163090432 This is a video of a liberal realizing how much Biden will spend.
Might as well spend it. We’re going to seize enough Chinese assets to reset the debt clock back to zero. 😉
The middle is where all the work gets done, even if you don't like it.
That's has be the most lack luster statement ever said. An excuse for the under achievers to feel important and superior.
Can't reply to the OP, because I am neither, liberal or democrat. As to the middle ground some are talking about,that doesn't, nor can it exist. People are either for the United States of America, and the constitution, or against. You can't have it both ways! Chances are some think I am wrong about this. You can have your thoughts on a divided country. No country divided has ever continued to exist! When political party affiliation is more important than the country, we all loose! Thats where we are today, losing our sovereignty, and the masses have their heads buried in the sand, refusing to see the facts! Random thoughts of the day!!
If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem, pretty simple really.
I don’t think that the premise of the OP is wrong. It simply points out that no matter your leanings to the left, moderate or stark raving leftist, voting for the party embraces certain things by default. Those things represented by a left vote are so far away from the party of JFK that the guy would probably spontaneously combust were he alive to see what liberalism in America has become.
With such a platform it is very legitimate to ask what we have in common. Should conservatives move left to compromise with the radical stance represented by Biden/Harris/Obama/Soros? I see no common ground that will benefit the nation.
Someone mentioned life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I can’t see where this is a common ground in light of the points addressed in the OP.
There is no common ground. Democrats are anti-American, anti-life, anti-freedom, anti-God. Lie, cheat, loot, steal, burn. They are nothing but rat bastards. This dispute needs to go hot and the sooner the better.
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