Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire A very serious question for Democrat/liberal posters

2. Common ground as (as far I am concern) the constitution mentions is the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. Healthcare, we all need it. But in this country, even a household with two working parents can't afford it. That needs to be fixed. It is a fundamental concern for millions in this country.

There is a lot of common ground amongst Americans since most folks are close to the center actually. With only 2 choices of course there is going to be tension and divide, but rational folks can understand either choice without divulging to name calling and spewing hatred.

Since most folks on here are radical right wingers - and clearly you are OP, it makes sense that you have this false perception that anyone who voted against Trump (AKA the AntiChrist) is a “Marxist”. This is the reason your common ground question doesn’t apply - because you are an extremist and most folks aren’t.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America".

We're a nation with Patriots living with Traiters now more or less. Not sure which outnumbers the other.
The states that still have a Republican majority should try to peacefully secede now, in my opinion...It's not going to get any better for them if the Democrats manage to get the Supreme Court stacked, and get DC and PR established as States. Eventually they would get the electoral college ended and go to a popular vote. There is no way to Unite this country at this point, its on a slow painful decline..We Republicans are worlds apart from the Liberals/ Socialist DEMs and it won't change now. It's becoming like a really bad abusive marriage at this point.

1.You call me radical? WTF, this site is INFESTED with radicals of the far extremist right. Some who do mention violence.

2. Common ground as (as far I am concern) the constitution mentions is the life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Healthcare, we all need it. But in this country, even a household with two working parents can't afford it. That needs to be fixed. It is a fundamental concern for millions in this country.

I think that we as a nation have more in common than not. The fringes are always the loudest while the middle just shakes it's head and goes about their day. If you ask a question framing the people you want an answer from as idiots, what do you expect in return. You insult everyone who doesn't think exactly the way that you do and then demand answers as to why we can't have open dialogue. It's a ridiculous premise.
Patrick

I think that we as a nation have more in common than not. The fringes are always the loudest while the middle just shakes it's head and goes about their day. If you ask a question framing the people you want an answer from as idiots, what do you expect in return. You insult everyone who doesn't think exactly the way that you do and then demand answers as to why we can't have open dialogue. It's a ridiculous premise.
Patrick

They won't tell you the truth. They may not understand themselves. They come in different flavors.

- You have the ignorant masses that believe the gov't just prints money and that they should get more of it without far reaching consequences

- You have the gullible that believe the MSM and Hollywood hype that their side is all rainbows and unicorns while the GOP is run by Darth Vader and Emperor (When actually it is the other way around)

- You have the misfits that hate themselves and hate America for it's its exceptionalism. The scrawny skate board dudes that spend their teens and twenties smoking weed and cruising around, sitting on the corner playing the guitar. The pale chubby chick that can't get laid and has no BFF girls to hang with They are angry that Mother Nature hit them with the ugly stick.

- You have the kids with undiagnosed mental health issues (or diagnosed). ADD, ADHD (yes, it's real) Bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, malignant narcissists etc. that can't fit in.

- White guilt, mostly harbored by people that have almost no contact growing up with people of color. In this category you have the White kids indoctrinated by the educational system and the MSM and adult Whites that live in the gated communities that just think that urban poverty is purely a product of racism.

- You have the emotional set that votes for who they think is nice, or looks most attractive, or that gets the approval and respect of the hosts on The View. These people just are uninformed and make a decision so that they don't need to defend their position. They go with what they think the mainstream consensus is so that they fit in. The path of least resistence. "The consensus must be right."

- You have the anarchists and real communists that are out to destroy the very fabric and order of America and trash it to the ground. The ones at the top want revolution so they can take over. Others just want to destroy the US and turn into a semi functioning cesspool like Mexico.

- Then you have the single issue voters. #1 is the Roe V. Wade group. Next, "GOP will take your Medicare". Then, selfish interests like "forgive my student loans."

- Guilt driven successful people. Think that sudden riches makes them morally superior and feel guilty that they "won life's lottery" and want to share not just their resources, but yours too to uplift the downtrodden. Wracked by guilt.

- Union voters. That block is weakening, but you still have "Daddy was a Democrat, Granddaddy was a Democrat, I'm a Democrat, and by God my kids will be too!" They don't realize where the Democrat Party has been too.

- The New Coalition of Dem voters I.E. "The Land of Misfit Toys". Another and a more accurate term for Identity Politics.

- The Green Movement. Many of these want to live in chic urban neighborhoods within walking distance of their favorite celebrity chef during the week, and then they want EVERYTHING else in this country beyond 30 minutes from their front door to be pristine wilderness for them to hike and mountain bike in. They want the world to be Seattle or Portland. They hate suburbia and value trees and animal's rights over people because Mommy and Daddy didn't love them as children.

The Animal Rescue world can be thrown in witht he Animal Rights people. Rescue bunch is dominated by barren spinsters that look for fulfillment from pets and the Hallmark Channel. they "hate mean people".

They list goes on, and most Lefties will fit into multiple pigeon holes. This will get you started.

One will be a Pro Choice chick who isn't politically savvy and just thinks everyone should get along and the obvious reason Blacks in urban cities have such a crappy life is that slavery from 200 years ago still haunts their DNA and ALL White people are culpable.

Look, I'm not a liberal, I'm not stuck in the 60's. I was trying to answer the op's question. To say you are either for the US or against it is ridiculous. The world is not now, nor has it ever been black or white, right or wrong. To quote Robert Earl Keen live and die by shades of gray. Using an picture of an ANTIFA idiot kicking a guy in the head as an exaple of liberals is like using a picture of the moron running over people with his car at the Tiki torch rally. It's not an accurate representation of the group, just an example of the fringes. The longer this us them circle jerk continues, the harder it's going to be to fix. I'll keep treating people as I would like them to treat me and planning for the worst.