Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire A very serious question for Democrat/liberal posters

Practically all of this is horse crap.

1 To my knowledge, Trump never did anything "racist" or even "homophobic", placing both minorities and queers in his govt. Calling illegal latinos illegal is not racist.

2 Trump put sanctions on Putin and Russia and more importantly, his energy policy put a hurting on them. The whole Russia thing has been horse crap from day one.

3. Leftist mayors in Democrat controlled cities looked the other way while ANTIFA burned them down. Kameltoe Harris even gave money to get them out of jail. Sleepy Joe said they were not an organization but an "idea".

4. Socialized medicine is Socialism by definition. It didn't work and won't work.

No we don't have anything in common because you are a low information idiot.

ok, but other than libetarians, the non-Repub conservatives are doing a good job of hiding

I have to admit, I didn't think any of them would answer but I can tell by the answers that they are dumber than I thought they were.

I think if one of them took the time to watch one of the Walter Williams videos that were popping up after his recent passing it would put them into anaphylactic shock.

JimFromTN,
Wanting all Americans to have healthcare might not be Marxism, but it certainly is socialism. Healthcare is a privilege, not a right. There is no mention of healthcare as a right in the Constitution. The privilege to have healthcare is earned by a person’s effort and work, no different than the privilege to have housing and food on the table, which are also not mentioned in the Constitution.

Regarding your remark about ANTIFA, you do realize that during the height of the summer ANTIFA riots, and there was no condemnation from the Democrat party and their candidates even though it was exactly during their Democratic Convention. Even now, there is little to no condemnation for BLM and ANTIFA even though quite a few law enforcement officer were killed or injured during these riots. For that, regarding the Democrat Party and its association with BLM and ANTIFA and the riots, silence from the Democrat Party is consent. It is tacit approval. Let alone that some members of the Democrat Party were financial supporting the BLM and ANTIFA movements.

Regarding your comment and the rights and protections under the law, I am not sure what you are referring to. But the right for women and blacks to vote were passed by majority Republican held Congress, and vehemently against the wishes of the minority held Democrat Congress.

Both the social programs of Social Security and Medicare Acts were passed while under Democrat presidents. Both these Social programs, along with the Pentagon budget, consume roughly 2/3 of the US budget. Both of these programs were social programs. And as we know, the Social Security program will go unfunded well within about 10 years. The Medicare Program is also in trouble. So these programs, while well intended, were kind of pie in the sky programs that now are a concrete anchor around our Nation’s neck that likely will be dragging us down. By the way, the current national debt calculates that every man, women and child each owes roughly $65,000 to.

You mention the Proud Boys. I am sure you are aware that the leader of the Proud Boys is of black/Jamaican heritage.

And I am sure you are also historically aware that the KKK was formed in the Democrat South, and the Democrat Party at the time openly supported the KKK and it was the Republican Party that resisted the KKK.

The OP did make it clear however to distinguish between the conservative movement and the Republican Party, so when I mention the Republican Party above, the conservative moment as he describes is not necessarily the same thing as my reference to the Republicans Party above. But certainly, the current Republican Party leans more toward conservatism than the liberal leaning Democrat Party.

Regarding your comment regarding abortion, those too were sponsored and pushed forward by the Democrat Party. There are many views in the Democrat Party regarding abortion, some in the Party now endorse the idea of late term abortions. But certainly, a women’s “right” to end her pregnancy does not take into account the rights of the baby to live nor the father’s right to have his child born.

A small nitpick: Wanting everybody to have healthcare isn't socialism. The mechanism leftists/statists want to use is the problem.

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

― James Madison

There was a congressman from Tennessee that hit upon this very same thing. His name was David Crockett

12344mag,
It appears you might be correct.

Then we have the anti gun trolls like Bennie who don't even hunt or fish

"Sent a letter to NRA to remove me from their membership last week. Stating to them I can no longer in good conscience continue to be a member of their organization. Their agenda is radical-to oppose every and any legislation. And they vilify all who opposes that agenda. So flame on with immature middle fingers and comments. I expect nothing less from many on this site. I could care less.""

I would say it’s a service but other than that you are correct.

There is no common culture anymore.
I have cousins wish my death over voting for trump.
America is irrevocably broken. And China pulls strings and rejoices while we eat our own.

Can the members of the Campfire who are liberal leaning (maybe even those who voted for Biden) please answer the OP’s question.

Well. We had two attempt answers kinda sorta. Well they really didn't answer the questions just a bunch of emotional name calling. I really had a hard time getting past the STUTER.

I had to pull out my decoder ring. I'm about through the first response but the way it's looking I'm gonna have to run my cyphering through a Dominion machine to make any sense out of it.

My request still stands. If there are any intelligent liberals be you Neo-Liberal or Classic-Liberal I'm looking for what common ground we have to work from. Your Junior members aren't up to speed on the talking points.

Lol, what a chick, just a 9th grade chick.

Lol, I wonder if he actually has a menstrual period as well......LMAO.

Yeah support the NRA, Wayne needs another silk suit. And YOU have NO PROBLEM paying for it. I do.

And the mob here is? Really? They can not accept the realty Donald lost. Instead they dig deeper into the rabbit hole of Newsmax and the like, which feeds their delusions. Delusions of the "deep state" and the straw villains like Soros that stole the election. JFC, that is just plain weird. Looking at the "True Patriots" a few weeks back on the steps of the Michigan capitol with their ARs ,smoking cigarettes, hat on backwards was telling. These clowns are nuts. And some of them are currently in jail for the plot to murder the governor of that state. You OK with that?

He wants a serious answer from a clown?

you are off topic. The question is, with your radical liberal ideology how can the two of us find any common ground from which we see our country progressing. Care to stay on topic and answer the question?

I keep coming back to this statement. Truth told in it simplest raw form.

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1.You call me radical? WTF, this site is INFESTED with radicals of the far extremist right. Some who do mention violence.

2. Common ground as (as far I am concern) the constitution mentions is the life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Healthcare, we all need it. But in this country, even a household with two working parents can't afford it. That needs to be fixed. It is a fundamental concern for millions in this country.