From what has transpired in the last 4 years I have no doubt that Sandy Hook was a farce.

I use to live close to there and I concur 100%

You’re saying it didn’t happen?

I was debating a break from this website for a few months till this $hit settles down. With this complete nonsense on the front page I'm gonna step out for a while. You are an absolute maniac if you think Sandy Hook wasn't real. An absolute dumb$hit maniac. I'm shocked anyone with an IQ above room temperature would even entertain that.

Correct, and I can also use a break.

Ask Remington about Sandy Hook.

Alex Jones is alive and well

Poster that joined January of 2020 and already has 1,691 posts. Who claims to reside in middle Georgia. Posting s*** that makes all conservatives look like morons.

If it wasn’t for this Covid crap I’d fly down under, buy an RV and tour around till it’s not so crazy around here.
Take 3-4 years to explore your continent I’d say.

So many do that daily here, why signal this one out?

Chill out and enjoy the entertainment value involved, this place is a hoot.

It’s not the state of Georgia, but the country. Probably one from the St. Petersburg troll farms.

What a complete and total moron. I swear this place attracts them

Morons are venerated hero, any wonder the place is over run with their s hit. Doesn't take much to amuse some people if they find their juvenile postings to be funny.

There are people/trolls on social media (and I believe that includes this forum) from this country or another whose goal is to create problems and make the Right look like lunatics. They spread all kinds of kooky fake news, lies, and conspiracy theories. Be very skeptical! We are better than that. Don't believe everything just because you want to believe it cause it confirms your bias. Don't be lazy and do your own research. Sandy Hook was no hoax and anyone believing that is a real moron or a troll.

I think it's beyond question that the actual events of Sandy Hook were manipulated by the left to extract maximum benefit for their anti gun efforts.

Absolutely it was. But the reaction to that manipulation from the right can't be some kooky conspiracy story. It's stories like that and the idiots who go along with it that makes all of us on the right look like idiots whose positions are to be dismissed out of hand.

Please explain TG.

idiots spouting horschit like this is why the right gets labeled as kooks. say this to the face of one of the parents whose little kid was shot by that psycho POS, you really need to step away and reevaluate.

Agreed, that’s why I don’t spend much time in the “campfire section “. The conspiracy theories, paranoia around here is actually pretty amazing. The last few months it’s gotten quite a bit worse.

+1. A psycho did the shooting but a gun maker gets the blame. Political beyond reason.

When all voices of opposition on any topic are silenced, that's enough - all by itself - to render the establishment's line on it suspect.

This place used to be focused on hunting, shooting, fishing, and outdoor stuff with a few kooks sprinkled in. The kook factor has grown exponentially.

Only a complete a$$hole would say that it never happened.

I respectfully disagree with the OP -

But, OH! All of the weak minded name calling nitwits that responded - I'm glad I'm above that.

Call me a kook.
But I don't KNOW it happened. I wast there, don't have anything
I can provide as evidence. Only that the media says it happened.
Don't know a single person that was affected, nothing tangible.


That said, I do believe it happened.

I don't believe the media was capable of pulling off a lie that big, then.


Now, they probably could and absolutely would.
The problem is the number of people needed.
So many parents, so many kids telling their tale,
All the "extras" filmed from helicopters.....

Tgat would be dam hard to keep quiet.

This is absolutely ridiculous

I never saw any evidence that the school was open when the "shooting" supposedly occurred. In fact, all the evidence pointed to it being closed due to needing renovation because it didn't meet asbestos requirements. It seems to have been closed for well over a year.

I laugh at all you midwits who make claims about what is real, tossing insults like, "Only an idiot would believe that!" First, what the fuuck does belief have to do with facts? Second, you don't know how to look at evidence and determine if something is factual. Third, I am a certified genius with an IQ well above genius-level. Insult me if you want to, but it's like an actual retard calling me a retard. Endlessly entertaining.

What the left does is plan for a reaction when something bad happens. Sandy Hook, George Floyd, Trayvon Martin, Ft. Hood, and all the rest. They don't plan them but they do have a well developed plan for a fast reaction when something does happen. They didn't plan for George Floyd to die but when he did, they were ready to respond en masse with demonstrations, demands for police reform, etc. They know how to twist a tragedy to their own use and squeeze the most political juice from it. These tragedies are used as triggers to set off an explosion.

The correct word is exploited!

Once the dems are ensconced in office there will be another mass shooting to further their anti-gun agenda....

Gene Rosen was playing an acting role for someone. That's irrefutable, if your analysis even barely scratches the surface. His story tolerates about zero scrutiny.

I don’t know what happened, I wasn’t there. That’s the best I can say. It probably happened, but I don’t believe anything reported by the media anymore unequivocally. When they will lie to you about fireworks on New Years, they’ll lie about anything. It’s time to treat the media like you would anyone else. If you catch someone in a couple lies, you will be distrustful of any information they give from then on.

So, while I don’t really believe in all the conspiracy theories, I’ll not completely discount them either. After all, I wasn’t there.

No doubt, open your eyes people. Don't feed this troll.

Well said, Joe.

lol

Just as the far right has gone so far right that they’ve become left, you apparently are so “smart” that you’ve become dumb.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/media/sandy-hook-youtube-conspiracy-theories/index.html
Censorship makes me question the motives. I remember watching the news and none of the ambulances or police cars were at the school building, they all stopped at the bottom of the hill, I found that odd. Why was the Sandy Hook school demolished and all of the other schools where mass shootings took place are operating as normal? I'm definitely right wing but I can also think for myself. I'm far from a troll, True Grit Farms is my place and the FV True Grit bought and paid for it. My phone number is on the gate and I'm always open to discussion.

First two post are trolls probably the same person

Good explanation. This is true. Sandy hook and vegas shooting not happening is insane. To many kooks on the internet. Info wars is a big reason for it. Too many pass around insane conspiracies and it makes the right look like lunatics

Just for a thought exercise, how do you know it happened?

Are they morons who just show up or liberal plants collecting data ??

kwg

Here we go. Another "stable genius".

TFF!

He's such a genius that he's a certified member of "menses". The intelligence just flows from his oversized, bloated brain for a couple days each month. We at least know he can count to 3.

I got, like 50 phone numbers memorized and all my fambly soc secureity numbers memberized.

I wonder whut my iQ is.

If it aint over a hunnert, I might could get me a check or somethin

Vegas happened, know people who were there. Shots were fired, bullets hit flesh. Where they came from or who pulled the trigger is a little less clear.

Exactly. My suspicion is that Paddock was a corpse before the first shot was fired. Perhaps well before.

I have spent many, many hours in the casinos in Vegas and around the rest of southern Nevada. I have fought, drank, gambled, slept, and [bleep] in most of them. I have delt with hotel/casino security to many times to believe they didn't have more video of every one coming and going from that guys room. You are on camera from the time you turn into the parking lot until you leave. They denied having much footage of him and that's bs.

It seems to me that everything being a conspiracy started out about the same time that "Q Anon" showed up. That's also about the time that both sides started really hating each other. Here's my conspiracy theory---Q Anon is run by a foreign intelligence service. There is no way that one or a few people posting all this domestically wouldn't have been found out by now. They are covered by a lot of resources and money. That's the only way they can't be hacked or infiltrated. My money is on the Russkies and they've gotten their money's worth. The Japanese, Germans, Russians and Chinese couldn't beat us openly so they have us doing it to ourselves.

Yep. Only one explanation for that. He wasn't perpendicular anytime near when the shooting started.

PS Remember all the security cam footage of Lanza running through the school with his rifle? Yeah, me neither.

Yep. Run out of Tel Aviv.

Yep. Book it !

+1
How do you even begin to reason with someone this gifted?

And the Democrat speaks....

Never underestimate the power of Human stupidity.

The reason that governments and "news" media get away with such huge lies is because people refuse to believe that anyone is capable of telling such huge lies. It gives them free rein to do whatever the hell they want, because they know you will swallow ANYTHING they tell you.

We're full of new kooks lately.

Along with some of the same old dolts

I agree

News sources like "Fox News" have captured the minds of millions of good Americans. They are as full of bullshit as is the left wing media.

I refuse to watch any news media as I have been lied to by them for years!

And the untrained puppy dog who pisses everywhere continues to follow me everywhere...

I don't know whether Sandy Hook was a hoax or not, I tend to believe the conspiracy theories of the Vegas shooting more. What I can tell you is that the OP is not a troll, I personally know him pretty well. He's been to my place, I've broke bread with the man, he's far from full of sheit. He ain't hard to find if you wanna look him up, my advice would be to go there peacefully. Just my .02

I fully understand the point you are trying to make here. That being said. All the people involved are all in on it? No one willint to break free and tell the truth? Families with dead children all in on it? I mean somewhere along the line, a lie like that just isnt sustainable

Kind of on the same lines as all the judges in America were on the take so trump would lose the election.

I honestly never even looked into the Sandy Hook thing. I immediately figured it was BS when I first heard about it. I don't know if it's a "hoax" or not, but a "false flag" event would not surprise me. The us Government has NO problem in killing people, so it's not like they wouldn't take people out to push their agenda.

That's hard to believe, the FBI was on it, even though there were dismal results but on the bright side Bump stocks were made illegal because one maniac used one. But you can bet they'll spend untold hours and resources arresting every Trump supporter they can that was at the capital occupation, and they'll be facing maximum sentences. Portland and Seattle? FBI is still short on manpower since they have so many agents on the Bubba Wallace hangman's noose racist hate crime.

That's hard to believe, the FBI was on it, even though there were dismal results but on the bright side Bump stocks were made illegal because one maniac used one. But you can bet they'll spend untold hours and resources arresting every Trump supporter they can that was at the capital occupation, and they'll be facing maximum sentences. Portland and Seattle? FBI is still short on manpower since they have so many agents on the Bubba Wallace hangman's noose racist hate crime.

You must be a teenager or something. Check out an author named A. Ralph Epperson

Nope, I'm 61 and never heard of him, like most people. I'm talking about widespread belief.

Okay, you are uninformed then. We are talking about conspiracy not widespread belief.

Some people have always believed in conspiracies. Back in 1963, there was the JFK one, but it was the only one. Now we have the LV, Sandy Hook, 9/11, voting machine, Obama birthplace, Obama religion, and the list goes on, and on, and on...

With actual reason. Too bad few of you even know what "reason" is.

If a child tells you an outlandish story, full of holes, do you believe it wholeheartedly? When known, repeated and shameless liars tell you a story, do you hold to it like it is reality? When a government full of corrupt individuals that recently passed a law giving themselves permission to lie to and propagandize the citizenry for national defense purposes tells you a story, do you immediately accept it as fact?

You know what finally convinced me regarding Sandy Hook? They forgot the janitorial staff. They created fake teachers and fake students, but they forgot to create a fake janitorial staff, and there was no budget (as in zero dollars allocated anywhere) to janitorial staff or supplies.

If you want to imagine that's all real, that's on you. If you feel like attacking the actual smart guy makes you feel better for being of average intelligence, feel free. I give no fuucks. I don't rely on mediocre people to dictate the world for me. In fact, I only allow people at least as smart as me to influence me, but I still verify everything. I am guessing that most of you verified nothing regarding Sandy Hook, but simply accepted the narrative presented. Because you can't think for yourselves. I see it here all the time. Many "What do WE do?" threads lately, because most of you can't think for yourselves, and can't even make a decision without some collective supporting your decision.

All our ultra high IQ geniuses {geni?} agree that it was midwits from Israel. You other shmoes need to up your game.


mike r

Always listen to the "actual" smart guy. He may be brighter than elkspewer.



mike r

Was driving down the interstate in Connecticut the last time I was in New England....
and there was an exit, the was Labeled US 6.... Sandy Hook....

so I took the exit and spent an afternoon there, touring the town...

Really nice place, with beautiful on New England homes, big houses, large well kept lawns etc..

Even took the time to talk to people about that school shooting.... even went and saw the school... it was summer time..
no one there, but visited it to see where it happened..

If it is a Hoax, then the entire town is in on it...

if it wasn't for the shooting I would have never gotten off the exit...

What confounds me is that you were overlooked for the 2020 “smartest man on the campfire” award. I’ll send Beav a PM so it doesn’t happen again next year.

Has to be a sheet stirer because nobody could possibly be that puckin dumb

I wouldn't count on that...

Done with an AR assembled from parts procured from the internet. And thousands of rounds of new ammo. “Ordered the gun online and went down to the store to complete the arsenal”

You are wrong and grossly uninformed. I gave you a source and you glibly dismissed it.

Furthermore you clearly don't understand what a conspiracy is. You are blinded by staring at TV talking heads or something. I don't know.

Here is what thinking men know to be true:
1) Conspiracies exist and have existed since men first joined in political union.
2) The existence of false conspiracies does not make all conspiracies false.

No shiite, Sherlock. I know what a conspiracy is. I was speaking to the fact that many people seem to think that everything is a conspiracy. You gave me a link, and I said that it was a well known author. The only recent conspiracy that I believe is true is about Jeffrey Epstein's death. I believe he had help or was coerced into it when he was told that all his blackmail files had been found and destroyed and he was going to jail as a pedophile with no power. He then either hung himself or they hung him. Why his helper didn't immediately leave the country is beyond my comprehension.

Conspiracy is an easy and convenient excuse for denial of truth to advance one's own agenda.

The more people involved in a conspiracy, the less the chances of it remaining secret for long.

Don't know much about Sandyhook shooting. Just that a nutty maladjusted mama's boy shot Mom and then went to an unguarded school and shot the place up. But the Las Vegas shooting had to have happened. There were thousands there to deny it. Now as to the shooter and whether there were others involved, that's a fair question. I don't believe in the humans walking on the moon story but it would be impossible to get by with something on earth among a well populated area with thousands of witnesses. The only questions are motive and accomplices. Sometimes motive just boils down to crazy which is very hard to defend against. Can't lock up crazies anymore. As an old colored man once told me "theys a heap o' people crankin off these days". I think he meant cracking up.

When folks make statements like that it makes all gun owners look like morons. Two years ago there was an idiot on here trying to tell me the Thousand Oaks Borderline Bar and Grill mass shooting never happened. I live 2 minutes from there and believe me it did happen.

I’ve never met any of them. I personally know no one who has. I cannot even say that they exist as real people. That’s where I am nowadays. If I did not witness it or know someone who did, I’m not in a position to completely believe it.

Denial of conspiracy is an easy and convenient excuse for denial of truth to advance one's own agenda.

You forget quickly. LOL 61? Maybe older.

conspiracy kooks here that say such relatively recent
events didn't happen will on another thread tell you
their religious beliefs about alleged extraordinary events
from 2000 or more yrs ago... arguing till
blue in the face that such did happen.

Apparently it's only in recent times that humans learnt
to fake, fabricate and exaggerate narratives to suite
their own agenda.

This makes perfect sense.

SNAKE!!!!

Nah its super secret gov cover up lol. Just ask some of thr nutty folks in here. Some people give our gov way more credit for being super smart than they deserve