I have said to people in my circle of friends repeatedly, that nothing about this scares me more then the censorship that is being brought about by "big tech".

Here's the thing though, we (not me actually, never have) willingly signed up on each of these platforms. We (conservatives) need to simply leave social media in total, at least until we can get a foothold on a true, non-biased social media platform.
Hell, if you look at it, Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, all of them are VOLUNTARY. Put another way, it's we're like Jews fighting and clawing our way up the ramp to find a "good spot" in the cattle car. WTF?

Break your addiction. Stop! Stop going there, there IS life without Facebook!


Okay, I've said my piece, queue up the "it's not that simple" crowd... (because somehow, I'm sure it's not )

Funny how any post about the democrats is a Russian bot, but any post about Republicans is absolute truth.

The reason for censorship by social media, which is their right because they are private companies, is that certain "Hate" groups were using social media to spread their message as well as to organize events like the storming of the capitol and the charlottesville event that the woman was killed by the lunatic in the car. In addition, people are using it to spread misinformation not to mention absolute lies that can incite violence or at least sway public opinion. The fact that they are private companies means they are into making money. If they don't ban these hate groups, hate speech, misinformation, and down right lies then the other 90% of their customers who don't approve of it will start pulling out. They also could possibly be held liable if their platform is used to encourage criminal behavior. They are gambling that censorship will save them the most money in the long run. I am sure the billion dollar companies have actuaries working on it right now to determine how far they need to go with it.

I've seen more than a few outright lies from the other side not be banned or censored.

Agreed... I was, for a time, on Twitter.. Gave it up when they got mad at me for sayin' the FLIP should be standing in front of a cement wall, blindfolded and facing a squad of riflemen.. They HATE the truth.. So EFF 'em all...

You’re so full of chit you’re eyes are brown. Just go somewhere and end your miserable life. Animals need the oxygen you waste.

They are in the public domain using public airways.

You have a privately owned bakery and you refuse to bake a cake for a Gay wedding. How did that work out?

You have a private bar and you refuse service to Black people. How would that work out?

The problem is that the "hate" group balance has made a large shift in the last five decades. Under the broad umbrella of "hate" activity, is there still white supremacy and such? Of course, but it makes up a much smaller portion of the overall than it used to. It seems like much of the "hate" these days comes from the other side of the aisle, yet the old white supremacy example gets trotted out all the time with a small handful of actual evidence, while the volumes of other evidence is overlooked on purpose. America sees this, much like the "Cops shoot unarmed minorities" dogma. Do unarmed minorities get shot by cops? Of course, but the TV and internet would have you believe that it happens 5 times a day in all the major US cities. America sees this too. If the numbers added up, it would make sense that "hate groups" and "racist cops" are the problem, but the numbers simply don't show that. America knows this. The country I live in, by and large, is a much less racist place these days than when I was a kid 30 years ago. I'm talking real life here. Watching the MSM, you'd think is was up 200%.

You LOLbertarians are like children.

This.

Public opinion just isn't on the side of white supremacists. What can you do?

Go check our the memes at Gab. Then join, now.

White supremacists don't bake cakes for gay folks?

Q: How do you know they are White supremacists?
A: Because Faceberg told me they are!

Until social media, none of this has been in the public eye so they remained small and unnoticed. Extremist groups came into existence because of social media regardless of whether they were the boogie boys or antifa. Social media gave them a platform to grow. Social media is finally recognizing this and taking responsibility but as in most cases they maybe taking it too far. Newton's third law doesn't apply to just physics. As for cops shooting unarmed minorities, the numbers are not up, they are just being seen for the first time and people who did not realize it existed are taking notice.

Because they say on their websites that they hate black people and jews?

You would be wrong in your assumptions.

Only they gay ones but most white supremacists don't like to talk about them.

One shoe doesn’t fit both feet, Jim. Your argument is totally one sided which puts it on the wrong side.

Public opinion is on the side of white supremacists?

Remember when ACLU was principled in their support for everyone’s freedom to speak their minds in the public square?

You don’t have to be a Nazi to support the fact that in America even they have the freedom to voice their ideas. You DO have to be a Nazi to be live they don’t.

Explain

You’re totally biased.

Social media isn't the public square, its privately owned. If it wasn't, it would be socialism.

Your narrative is failing you.

People can love or hate whoever they please, they just can't act on it physically or it's quite possibly illegal, infringing on another's rights. That's America. Remember Kathy Griffin's photo op with the Trump head? It was in poor taste, but not illegal.

And regarding the cops and the shooting unarmed minorities, you missed my point. My point is that it certainly does happen, mainly due to the sheer volume of daily interactions, but the MSM acts as though it is rampant, when it is clearly not. It is a fallacy and a disservice to the public to cherry pick bad examples and treat them like they are the status quo. If you want to highlight a small-percentage occurrence/tragedy, at least share the whole story of he larger percentage occurrences for an accurate perspective. But that is clearly not the agenda.
America sees this "spin" and this is a large part of why so many do not trust the MSM.

Someone make a Stickey out of Jim’s statement here.

Thats not an explanation. I pointed out that most of these extremist groups wouldn't exist without social media. They definitely would not have the following they have. I pointed out that it seems like reporting police shooting unarmed minorities has gone up drastically in the MSM is because of social media and the fact allot of people were unaware it really even occurred. What is biased about that?

Move along Jim, you clearly are letting most of this go right above your head, lack of reading comprehension or just not smart enough would be my guess. Either way your views are flawed, kind of feel sorry for ya.

Kathy Griffin didn't work for years after that. She still isn't really working as a result of it. She destroyed her career. Again, the reason for the coverage of police shooting unarmed minorities is because its news and up until a few years ago, you heard rumors but you didn't see actual videos. Without the videos, there has always been deniability. Now people post them on social media live while the police are in the act.

Are you a narcissist? They often accuse people of doing things that they themselves are doing as a form of deflecting To control the conversation.

Regarding the bad-cop stuff we all watched being peddled 24/7 in 2019/2020, there were over 10 million arrests in 2019. Fatal shootings by police usually number 1,000 to 3,000 per year. They aren't exactly shooting up everybody, regardless of skin color. There are bound to be bad cops and there are bound to be just bad circumstances where judgement isn't the best, but to act as though all unarmed shootings are 100.00000% avoidable is extremely immature and unrealistic. They are tragic, yes, but it's part of the price to pay for living in a society with 10 million arrested law-breakers each year. So don't make it sound like it's happening each day on every street corner, just to stir up schitt for an agenda. Oh wait, stirring up discontent, envy, and rage is all that some have to offer the world. Without that, they'd have no public support for their schemes and no voters to keep them in power. No sideshows for the masses to keep them in unrest while they fleece the country for their own gain. Bread and circuses continue to be rather effective.

I'm out.... good luck with the discussion. Work to be done....

Months ago under the pretense of stopping abuse and threatening comments the mainstream news media websites stopped allowing any reader comments on their news stories but was clearly for much more blatantly obvious reasons -- to block facts and logical viewpoints posted by readers contrary to their intended 'spin' on the news stories.

People protesting what they think is a stolen election is not a hate group. There were thousands of people there and a small percentage went in the capitol.

M19CO bombed the Senate building in 1983. One of the Jews who was convicted of participating in now a key player in BLM fundraising.

This was all pre-social media. But current social media (Snopes.com) says that organizing the purchase of firearms used to rob armored trucks then spending those proceeds to buy bomb making materials to blow up the Senate, isn’t really terrorism.

So it might be (((they))) have an agenda, as opposed to the unbiased arbiters of good and evil you present them as.

Well, well, well... we finally found the one free thing jim won't vote for... speech. He's a censorship guy and for good reason since his ideas suck and are wildly unpopular.

Aside from the very strong argument that these social media sights are now part of the public domain, they also...
1. enjoy legal protections that are reserved for open platforms, not political hacks.
2. they are absolutely engaging in illegal anti-competitive business practices and should be subject to anti-trust litigation.

If you support what they're doing since they're a """""private business""""", you're a book burning censorship nazi scared of open dialogue.

if I see/read something I don't like/agree with I just move along. lots of other things to do besides sitting in front of a computer screen getting pissed. move along.

Trump Russia collusion vs massive voter fraud 2020.
The first narrative was accepted by media elites, the second is considered hate speech by domestic terrorists.

Like every other private company, they have an obligation to support the public good. This is in return for their use of fruits of that public good, which for social media include public airwaves and infrastructure which are essential to their existence.

Social media is now in a grey area. They are privately held, so they have the right to censor as they see fit.

However, they have grown so prevalent and powerful, that they are bordering on, it not crossed into, the monopoly range. When Facebook can shut down a person/group, or twitter can, and it has the effect this has had, a basic LARGE restriction in information flow, that's monopoly. When Apple and Android can team up to essentially take down parler just because they don't like the message, that's a monopoly.

Like it or not, social media has evolved to be so key in people's lives that they are now the main source of information for a large percentage or our country.

Allowing that to be restricted is wrong. Then again, forcing them to not restrict is wrong. So....grey area with no solution.

When it comes to hate groups. Yes they are around and yes they use facebook etc. to spread the word and get membership. However who defines "hate group", today it's anyone who thinks people like Ted Cruz where doing nothing wrong by challenging the electoral count. So by LEGAL word or action, you are now a "hate group". Sheesh.

He's just a lying liberal troll. A willfully ignorant useful idiot. There is intellectual honesty in him.

Are you that stupid you think things can't spread without it? We had more hate groups 100 years ago then now. The hate is made up by people like you.

There has NEVER been a better time to be a minority. And never a worse time not to be one.


As to planning things if you think things don't get planned if social media blocks anything, things that aren't even close to planning but things that say demos and libs are stupid and dangerous, then you are as nuts as we say you are.

Guess its self explanatory then.

So are his Depends.

You might add that his integrity has somewhat of a sliding scale.

He’s proven himself as a troll and no more than that.
And no less:

Ignorant fug!

1'st place, the illegal and ill-advised incursion into the Capitol was led by diguised Antifa pukes.

2'nd place, these same privately owned social media platform had no problem with those sites being used to organize and promote Antifa and BLM riots all over the nation, including arson, mayhem, murder, assault upon LEOs (over and over) and looting for over a year.

That pretty much destroys any claim they might make of "social conscience".

Good one, you funny guy.