My YouTube was blocked from viewing any here since those foolish threats a couple weeks ago.
I can guess that it's good health info coming from you.
My diet has been high cholesterol all spring and my energy is back to 5 years earlier. I can now sleep all night...most of the time. Today I speed walked half a mile without getting out of breath even on steep grade. I could hardly believe it. I've been eating lots of organic eggs fried in fat back. Dandelion greens and asparagus are making a difference along with the wild onions and garlic for minerals and methalation.
Cholesterol has really made a difference with restoring hormones doctor.

I wish you all good health

Absolutely spot on. Going in tomorrow for my second CRP test. Last one was over 200, one year ago. Ive been eating almost zero carb since. Think carnivore diet. I know the inflammation is gone now. Going to be interesting to see what my doctor says, since I refused to take the meds she said I needed.

This.

My fingers were swollen and red for months until I bought six dozen eggs and a few pounds of fatty pig skin. Its unpreserved other than salt. That gets rinsed before frying. I've lost a few inches off of my belly.
Fat doesn't make you fat like the old mantra in the college nutrition department.

You as well Johnny.

Tag

A few eggs and some fatback and yer aww bettah ?

You have other issues goin' on.

Went off the statins a couple years ago after I got tired of sore muscles. Tried Zetia, but one dose of that brought on a slight numbness in my lips, a bad sign of worse things. My cholesterol is somewhat elevated, but a stress test and carotid ultrasound in 2019 showed no blockages. I’ve never smoked, so am taking my chances with the test results instead of pharma propaganda. So far, so good.

They wanted me to start taking that cshit years ago. I passed.

Get your LpLa checked as it measures the protein particle size that is in the plaque on the artery walls. Higher the number, the larger the particle sized. Smaller particles mean the plaque is more elastic. Larger sized equals more brittle and causes of sudden blockages. One cardiologist wouldn’t even look at my numbers when I showed him I was 5 times higher than normal.... He wanted me to get a defibrillator implant for a 150K..... Got a new cardiologist who said take niacin 1000mg per day and in four months, I”m in the normal range..... Can’t make money on $12.00/month vitamins and a healthy patient..... The video above is great but don’t overlook other factors like LpLa, diet, exercise, bad habits.....

Excellent posts jag! Thank you.

Thank you so much Jag. A very timely post for me and the wife.

In February, I started eating a high protein, high fat diet. I'm talking eggs, bacon, salmon, scallops, steak, pork, chicken and venison. EVERYTHING is cooked in butter. I've cut back on the amount of bread I eat, but eat a lot of nuts too. Almonds, pistachios, macadamia, etc. I've dropped 28 lbs and my BP averages 114/68. I'm 64 and haven't felt this good in years.

Yes, but my issues were corrected with modifications of my diet rather than a lack of pharmaceuticals.
I didn't go into all of the boring details as the OP topic wasn't about my problems.
Two very well respected integrative physicians in my part of the country recommended two protocols which were very plausible considering my symptoms.
In brief, I activated an inflammatory response by my body that strangely would not completely calm down even though I eliminated the typical inflammatory foods. I was eating very healthy for a winter diet.
However, the healthy, high nutrient foods also contained high amounts of oxalic acid aka. oxalate.

The short is that I continued to consult the best doctor, the Great Physician, and He revealed the cause of the lumps in my fingers, toes and lack of energy.
The only time in my life I experienced a kidney stone was at this time. I could not grasp tightly with my fingers. It was painful to walk. I would bruise wherever there were these small lumps. I changed my diet drastically to include foods that are low in oxalates and that help rid the body of it. The calcium oxalate stones in my kidneys, feet and fingers reabsorbed and I included a high cholesterol (somewhat) ketogenic diet which improved my endocrine system in a major way.
I have a mineral depletion which is gradually improving by adding wild springtime edibles as well. As spring progresses, I know that the sunshine will also help absorption and D3 levels. In the meantime, I supplement.

Feel free to share this information with any of your patients that may benefit.

Regards,

Happy Camper

Years ago, 50 probably, A doctor showed a strong man sitting in his office. The man was asked to hold out his arm and told to resist the doctors push downward. The man held back the doctor. Then the doctor gave the man a spoon full of sugar to put in his mouth and repeated the test.. The man had no resistance at all. Never forgot that video.

I believe the sugar/inflammation correlation. Almost all packaged food is full of sugar. Recent history showing the rise of obesity, diabetes and heart disease should support the theory that sugar and high carb intake are significantly responsible.

That's a kinesiology test. 👍 Good lesson to remember Diesel.
Kinesiology never worked on me, but I think that I would likely respond the same to sugar. Just having much at one meal and it's bed time for a while.
That mixed with lots of dairy turns on inflammation quicker than most foods in most people.
That was one reason that I started having issues.
I cleaned up my diet and it continued from the oxalates.

Uncle had stents and a pacemaker for over 10 years. Been on cholesterol meds. Cholesterol was always under 150. Had blockages again and got a quad bypass last summer. He asked the surgeon, "how'd I get blockages with low cholesterol and being on statins?" Doc said, " That only works about 2% of the time". Ugh!

Trust your doctor, he cares about you not the money..../sarcasm

What Diesel mentioned comes to mind Rickshaw.
My sources of information make sugars to be a big factor rather than the cholesterol.
The short is that the sugar / insulin response leads to corrosion of the blood vessels. Cholesterol, calcium, etc. come along and patch the lining of those rough areas as a temporary fix. If this mechanism continues from long term sugar use, those blood vessels get thicker patchwork until restrictions occur.

Cholesterol is not the bad guy. It's the response to a bad diet. That's an oversimplification, but is accurate.
The statins as you know are BIG $ makers for big pharma. They are the ones that decide what the number "should be." That should make patients think about the motives, shouldn't it?

Cholesterol is a very good anti-inflammatory by itself. All hormones are made from cholesterol in your body, and this is in part why returning to a fat diet, readjusts things. It provides the molecular basis for hormone synthesis missing in carb diets. Testosterone, estradiol, progesterone, and Vit D3
As mentioned it is the plaques, or Ca salt that cause the problem. Cortisol, made by the body, or hydrocortisone provides the basis for all of the cortisone group (dexa,beta. ex), which in addition contain some addition that prolongs the activity. The real reason is because the basic molecule could not be patented, so modifications were made that allows them to become "pharmaceuticals."

some fats contain cholesterol, but primarily the change stops the insidious allergic response caused by glucose specifically, not necessary poly saccharides (carbs). Additionally the medium chain fats , activates other metabolic rates, that shut down during a carb intake.

as a side note kidney stones can be either or both uric acid crystal and or oxalate. Oxalate is a free radical scavenger, and one of the best, and also helps regulate Ca

Teeth (fangs) and nails (claws) were never intended for ripping apart tofu.

Absolutely! Oxalate has also been successfully used for certain cancer treatments. It's just that my diet was too high in Oxalate and low in the cholesterol and phytonutrients that regulate the oxalates.

I'm interested in your comment concerning the medium chain FAs in regards to carb intake.
Right now, I have to get back to work though.
Thanks for the good response.

HC

Mid chain are absorbed easier and go to liver, larger fats are exhaled, not pooped out. (contrary to belief)
mid chain also help bile acids regulate cholesterol and higher chain fats.

they are converted to fatty acids and glycerol and on average contain twice the energy as same wt. of carbs. then basically going to acetyl CoA and into the krebs cycle.

short version.

My wife used to help with catering for our local greasy spoon restaurant.
They had a very successful restaurant with breakfast, lunch, dinner.
She asked the owner why everyone loved their food so much[basically what's their secret]?
His answer was simple: sugar
They pour it to most everything they make.

Had to flip a coin --- I was going with bacon fat.

Interesting Jag, today i had:

Breakfast, 4 eggs scrambled in bacon grease, salt/pepper, big squirt sriracha, half pot black coffee and same mug full of full fat cows milk.

Lunch, scraped the tops off homemade pizza, hate the thin crust once it's reheated, ingredients are wild pig sausage, jalapenos, onions, some kind of white cheese and some homemade sauce from Wifes garden tomatoes, threw that in a skillet, cracked in two more eggs and had with black iced tea.

Supper will be a bowl of venison stew with a beer or two, capped off with 64 drams of Glenmorangie before bed.

Been eating that way my whole adult life, cholesterol is 150 last check, blood sugar 99, i dont know squat, but guess i'll continue.

LOL

lard makes everything good

#LARDASS

You'll be dead before supper!


Hahaha!

I will send flowers.

LOL, i'll leave the gun safes open for ya Slim Jim, dont forget the scotch, there's a bottle or two on the fridge too ; ]

Very similar to my routine.

Last physical, doc asked about my weight loss (about 25 lbs), so I told him. He couldn’t believe I had lost weight without exercising (good grief, I farm, who needs exercise?), and insisted on running the full gamut of blood tests - which all came back as good as you can ask for.

He simply could not believe it was possible — and this is a fairly young guy that should still be open to learning something new. Which underlines my concerns with the state of education of our physicians today - hard to think of it any other way than pharma / intervention driven.

Yes Sir Dutch, i hate to read about all the meds some take on a daily basis, it sucks when i have to travel, cant eat right, especially airline food, that stuff is pure trash, eat it or starve i guess, take me a week after back home to purge that junk from my system, get strength back, and get to feeling like myself again, may sound crazy to some, but it's real.

The strength part is something that keeps surprising me. There are certain objects on the farm that I pick up and move on a fairly regular basis. Today, at 56, I move them with much less effort than I did even 15 years ago. Even flexibility seems to be getting better, not worse.

The only meds I have to take is an anti coagulant due to a hereditary clotting issue, and I still supplement B12, at least until my gut heals enough to start absorbing it normally again (another thing the doc is confounded about, in that he wants to inject it every two weeks, but liver in the diet accomplishes the same thing, but I suppose he doesn’t have the liver concession.....).

That reminds me that I have to pick up some coconut oil . I'm almost out. I've got some good bison/buffalo waiting for me at the grocery store now. I'll probably get there.

Thanks for the kind info on mct. It's been.years since I read up on coconut oil and I ve got one of the top books on it in my library. Another reminder to reread and refresh.

😂😂

Good deal, Gun.

Thanks, Etoh.

There is a lot of detailed information about cholesterol in this video that I haven't watched all the way through yet. I was surprised to find out that LDL cholesterol prevents the calcification of r arteries and does a lot of other really good things. I've had high cholesterol probably all my life but wasn't prescribed statin drugs until I was in my late 30's by a doctor who was convinced I would soon die of a heart attack. He also put me on the diet that is supposed to lower your cholesterol numbers. After a couple of years of trying this diet and different statin drugs (Lipitor was the worse) I quit because they made me so tired and weak. I went back to my old ways of eating like my Grandparents and working hard and have felt great ever since.

When I was in my 70's I decided to get in shape for one the Senior Olympic that year. I paid for a heart CT and for sonograms of my carotid arteries, my abdomen and legs. I told the young lady doing the carotid artery scan that my mother had a 98% blockage in her right carotid artery when was 65. When I got the results found that I had calcium deposits in my "widow maker" heart artery that was in the average range for my age and that I had some calcium deposits in my right carotid artery (surprise). I saw a Cardiologist for more tests that included a nuclear stress test. He wanted to prescribe a stain drug but I told him I wouldn't take them. He then prescribed lots of exercise. The next 3 carotid artery scans showed that: 1) my right carotid artery is clear but my left carotid artery has some blockage 2) neither carotid artery is blocked 3) neither carotid artery is blocked. I'm scheduled to get another carotid artery scan later this year.

I'm 78 now and have never had any physical symptoms of blocked arteries or heart disease. I may die of a heart attack tomorrow but I believe I'm still active and healthy because I refused to take statin drugs. I always believed that statin drugs was just a scam to make the drug companies richer. Now they also have very expensive shots to lower your cholesterol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_QdNX9etCg

the injection is Repatha , very expensive. once or twice a month- self administered. In the trade called Drano. will lower by 50%


One that hasn't been covered so far, is very effective and one form is on prescription. Fish oil 2000mg 3 times a day.


cholesterol type heart problems are usually some type of stroke, and if in the heart the blockage can stop blood flow and O2

usually atrial fibs. are more common. and the big killer. (pacemakers that kind of stuff)

Tag

Big Pharma pushes Lipitor.

Cause they didnt come out with Seafoam and dont wanta let the cat outta the bag about it's Cardiac benefits.

That's encouraging.
It's surprising how much better exercise and good nutrition work over drugs and surgery.
Recovery is MUCH faster too.

I don’t take quite that much, but probably worth mentioning that it is also about as effective as Xanax as a mood stabilizer........

Most docs forget to mention that, as well. Fish oil contains some pretty essential stuff for the human body.

You bet Dutch, same here, although now, you at 56, me at 58, we'll tear the crap out of our old selves now, went out and banged myself up pretty good, had a fusion at L4-L5? whatver they're called around '93, bout have the rest of my back worn out, still not going to quit, keep that liver running smooth with around 64 drams of scotch per night ; ]

i only need medicine if talking politics.

Beans, rice, potatoes as staples. Plenty of venison, pork, chicken, and fish, as well as free range chicken and duck eggs. Fresh fruits and vegetables. Almost nothing from a box or bag. Beer and tequila. I'm turning 50 this week and can work circles around my son and son in law.

As a pharmacist, I'm always trying to convince docs to stop prescribing so much crap and give patients the advice to know what and why they are taking what they are. Been years since I've had a single Tylenol and may take an ibuprofen twice a year.

Exercise your body and mind regularly and you won't need most of that crap.

I was on Lipitor for maybe 10years.Got all the side effects mentioned. My cholesterol climbed to 280 in 3-4 years.No diets helped and I tried every one.If your body produces it, diets won' t help . I have some blockage and some hardening of the arteries around the heart and going into my lungs.My calcium score is elevated, and I fight high blood pressure. I have family history of anuerisms (sp) and strokes.Two months ago I started on the Repatha. First month cholesterol dropped to126 taking two injections per month which cost $505. At that cost, I would hit the Medicare doughnut in August, I so I have had to cut back to one injection per month. Next blood test is in May so I will see how that does

Being 78 vs 50 years old, is big change in your body chemistry and what works at 50 doesn't work in later years.I didn't take hardly any drugs back then. A lot of folks are in for big surprise.

Did you try the PKD diet, or carnivore??

"the injection is Repatha , very expensive. once or twice a month- self administered. In the trade called Drano. will lower by 50%"

Are you saying that Repatha will actually remove existing plaque and calcium from your arteries? My cardiologist doesn't even make that claim.

The plaque is the calcium ---- calcium cholesterol

A smart cardiologist doesn't make any claims.

Son in law is an electrophysiologist (read cardiologist/pacemater/ablation) says reversal of around 50% in first 3 months. Immediate flushing of LDL from liver and blood stream.

it does have a side effect profile, but nothing like the statins.

It stops the immune response that binds-- thereby the plaque is released.


Try explaining to a cardiologist why so many drugs release digitoxin, causing overdose, from their protein binding sites, and that is why its not used anymore -- and get back to me.

Didn't watch the clips so not sure if this was covered on them, and if not, its a bit off topic.

Its impossible to talk to about cholesterol, heart disease without including the effects of testosterone, estradiol and progesterone and the interactions they have.

Estradiol is cardioprotective, and something like 90000 women die in US from heart disease caused by low estrogen, Men convert testosterone to estradiol which gives them this cardio protection.

the estrogen that was given them was not bioidentical, it was from pregnant horse urine (Premarin) The WHI Womens Health Initiative was a failure. and the progesterone medroxyprogesterone not bio identical.

this does not happen when they are given estradiol and progesterone.

likewise in men injectable testosterone (ester analogs-not bio identical) will cause release of plaques and strokes and is contra-indicated in high cholesterol pts.

topical bio identical testosterone does not do this and is not contra-indicated.

I had calcium build up in my heart from scan in 2014. Not so last scan two years ago.

I use vitamin K2, removes veinous calcium and distributes to bones. Even some doctors are starting to see this now.

Statins I cant take, give me huge leg pain issues.

Very informative video

They wanted me to take that years ago, I passed.

Me too!!!

Tag

Tag

Tag.

https://youtu.be/ZC3wRx4vV7g

He's spot on.

By the way, Dr. Atkins had this all figured out in the 1960s.

Just update on this thread. I’ve been on high fat diets for the better part of 5 years and always eaten a ton of red meat. My last cholesterol scores were 360 (while on exclusively meat, milk, cheese diet) and 285 when on 80% meat diet. I’m fit and all my numbers other than cholesterol look good. My doctor order a heart CT scan which just came back perfectly normal with no buildup.

78? man you've won the battle - go have a cheese burger and thumb your nose at all these health care professionals

Bookmarked and followed. Good thread.

Muscle pain is not a benign side effect. It is due to destruction of muscle tissue. Humm. That ought to be real heart healthy.

Let us know how it goes, pls.