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Posted By: goalie Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
So, I'm asking here because of the traffic. I screwed up and shot my Dimension with the 6.5 man-bun barrel, and the damn thing shoots.

And the star-trek abortion of a stock fits me like it's custom.

So, I'm keeping it, and, since I don't take off bad weather days, wanna know what's the "go to" coating.

I'm not gonna take pictures of fish next to it underwater, but I don't wanna have to baby it or end up with a rusty POS.
Posted By: TheKid Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Paste wax and tape the muzzle. Cerropaint is ghey.
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by TheKid
Paste wax and tape the muzzle. Cerropaint is ghey.


That sounds like work. Gay and not work sounds better.

Bear in mind, deer killed with this may be transported ticks and all inside a minivan
Posted By: mirage243 Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Everyone of my user rifles sports cerakote, I love the stuff.
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
To clarify: who/where do you recommend I have it done through????
Posted By: 300MAG Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by goalie
To clarify: who/where do you recommend I have it done through????


Eddie Fosnaugh or Kampfeld Customs............
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
I can’t recommend anyone, I do it myself. Not hard.

Here’s a LT 1100 I did in graphite black and maybe coyote tan?

You can’t really mess anything up that can’t be fixed.

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Posted By: DMc Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Had a few done.

DFW Cerakote
Jeff Andrews
165 Cactus Dr.
Decauter, TX
(214)810-1308

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Posted By: drover Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Cerakote will scratch and wear so I just use Krylon and touch it up as necessary, which is not very often. $7.99 vs. $150.00 - no brainer to me, besides that nothing is going to improve the looks of the Dimension.

drover
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by drover
Cerakote will scratch and wear so I just use Krylon and touch it up as necessary, which is not very often. $7.99 vs. $150.00 - no brainer to me, besides that nothing is going to improve the looks of the Dimension.

drover


Ain't that the truth.

SOB shoots though. Points like a fitted shotgun for me. Banging steel offhand made me realize some things > looks
Posted By: NVhntr Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Apply this to the exterior metal parts. Done.

Dyna-Tek Gun Shield
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by SandBilly
I can’t recommend anyone, I do it myself. Not hard.

Here’s a LT 1100 I did in graphite black and maybe coyote tan?

You can’t really mess anything up that can’t be fixed.

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Wish my duck boat looked like that.

🤦🏽‍♂️🦫
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
😂
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
I’d go rattle can.

If I were to put more than $20 in it, I’d go right to nitride.
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by MadMooner
😂


Dude, I’m not ashamed, maybe embarrassed is the right word...But man, I’m horrible at artsy-fartsy painting.

The funniest part of this damn boat was I actually tried...I recruited good intel from SandBilly - who actually can paint things up in cool graphics, and I still humped the cat.

Sheesh, hold into the failure.

LOL

🦫
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by SandBilly
I can’t recommend anyone, I do it myself. Not hard.

Here’s a LT 1100 I did in graphite black and maybe coyote tan?

You can’t really mess anything up that can’t be fixed.

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Wish my duck boat looked like that.

🤦🏽‍♂️🦫


When I get up there we’ll fix it.
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by SandBilly
I can’t recommend anyone, I do it myself. Not hard.

Here’s a LT 1100 I did in graphite black and maybe coyote tan?

You can’t really mess anything up that can’t be fixed.

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Wish my duck boat looked like that.

🤦🏽‍♂️🦫


When I get up there we’ll fix it.


There is a god !

Thank you !

🤦🏽‍♂️🤦‍♀️🦫
It’s hard to argue with anything done by Kampfeld but there isn’t a whole lot to cerekoting. For time and convenience I’d take it to anyone local that works at a competitive price and has examples of their work to show.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by drover
Cerakote will scratch and wear so I just use Krylon and touch it up as necessary, which is not very often. $7.99 vs. $150.00 - no brainer to me, besides that nothing is going to improve the looks of the Dimension.

drover


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Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Cool ^^^^^^^ 🦫
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Not mine but it’s a good, easy, basic idea.
Got a couplee guns with cerakoted.



People like Birdsong Black-T also.

Keep saying I’m gonna have one done, they arent too far from me in MS.
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by goalie
So, I'm asking here because of the traffic. I screwed up and shot my Dimension with the 6.5 man-bun barrel, and the damn thing shoots.

And the star-trek abortion of a stock fits me like it's custom.

So, I'm keeping it, and, since I don't take off bad weather days, wanna know what's the "go to" coating.

I'm not gonna take pictures of fish next to it underwater, but I don't wanna have to baby it or end up with a rusty POS.


IMO, cerakote is a cosmetic finish, mascara for men,

Coat it if you want, but that won't make the rifle a weatherproof, no maintenance weapon.

Birdsong can at least coat the majority of the parts including the firing pins , bolts and such, but even that can scratch and chip.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by goalie
So, I'm asking here because of the traffic. I screwed up and shot my Dimension with the 6.5 man-bun barrel, and the damn thing shoots.

And the star-trek abortion of a stock fits me like it's custom.

So, I'm keeping it, and, since I don't take off bad weather days, wanna know what's the "go to" coating.

I'm not gonna take pictures of fish next to it underwater, but I don't wanna have to baby it or end up with a rusty POS.


IMO, cerakote is a cosmetic finish, mascara for men,

Coat it if you want, but that won't make the rifle a weatherproof, no maintenance weapon.

Birdsong can at least coat the majority of the parts including the firing pins , bolts and such, but even that can scratch and chip.


What coating isn’t a cosmetic finish?
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
This is like a HIPAA law question I guess. Really hard.
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by goalie
So, I'm asking here because of the traffic. I screwed up and shot my Dimension with the 6.5 man-bun barrel, and the damn thing shoots.

And the star-trek abortion of a stock fits me like it's custom.

So, I'm keeping it, and, since I don't take off bad weather days, wanna know what's the "go to" coating.

I'm not gonna take pictures of fish next to it underwater, but I don't wanna have to baby it or end up with a rusty POS.


IMO, cerakote is a cosmetic finish, mascara for men,

Coat it if you want, but that won't make the rifle a weatherproof, no maintenance weapon.

Birdsong can at least coat the majority of the parts including the firing pins , bolts and such, but even that can scratch and chip.


What coating isn’t a cosmetic finish?


A ceramic coating in regards to rust protection, is not the main intention of said product, but you already knew that,

there are better options than ceramic for weather proofing.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Ok, what? And which one provides 100% protection and isn’t cosmetic?
Posted By: TheKid Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
If you really care and you really want it weatherproof have it nitrided.

Or if you’re into colorful camo jobs or whatever you can have it painted but it’ll be but a shadow of the finish nitride is.

Or you could jerk it out of the stock a couple weeks before season and smear it down with Johnson’s paste wax, sight in and hunt all season and tear it down for a cleaning when you’re tagged out.
Posted By: DMc Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Somebody spain... are we talking cerakoted rifle or painted stock, or painted rifle and stock?
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by DMc
Somebody spain... are we talking cerakoted rifle or painted stock, or painted rifle and stock?


I'm thinking just metal. Have you seen a Dimension stock?

🤣🤣🤣
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/15/21
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Ok, what? And which one provides 100% protection and isn’t cosmetic?


Be serious, even Stainless Steel isn't 100%
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Ok, what? And which one provides 100% protection and isn’t cosmetic?


Be serious, even Stainless Steel isn't 100%


I’m just asking about this you posted. What’s not mascara?

IMO, cerakote is a cosmetic finish, mascara for men,

Coat it if you want, but that won't make the rifle a weatherproof, no maintenance weapon.

Birdsong can at least coat the majority of the parts including the firing pins , bolts and such, but even that can scratch and chip.
Posted By: DMc Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by DMc
Somebody spain... are we talking cerakoted rifle or painted stock, or painted rifle and stock?


I'm thinking just metal. Have you seen a Dimension stock?

🤣🤣🤣

Once, but I had to divert my eyes....
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by DMc
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by DMc
Somebody spain... are we talking cerakoted rifle or painted stock, or painted rifle and stock?


I'm thinking just metal. Have you seen a Dimension stock?

🤣🤣🤣

Once, but I had to divert my eyes....


Seriously, it's almost killing me, but the damn thing fits.

That rifles like a fat chick that's amazing in bed
Originally Posted by goalie
To clarify: who/where do you recommend I have it done through????

Someone that is cerracoat certified and listed on the site in your area.

Lots of people use bubba.
Their cerracoat guy..
The bytch about crap results.
And stomp up and down that cerracoat sucks.
What they dont say is their guy bubba is at fault.
Ever...........

Bubba takes short cuts.
Bubba uses glass media to blast.
Bubba uses dirty media.
Bubba dont clean metal in a acetone bath.
Bubba cleans with mineral spirts, gasoline, paint thinner...
Bubba cuts his ratios with his color and hardener to get more money outta the bottles.
Bubba has a jury rigged oven with uneven temp in it.
Bubba dont clean blasting media out before acetone bath, spraying, or cooking...



Go with graphite black.
One of the armour coat H series colors.

I have had numerous guns cerracoated.
Weather dont stop me either...

Posted about my cerracoated firearms many times.

Certified and listed cerracoat applicators
Cerracoat will schit can their listed applicators if they do half azzed work and dont follow their process verbatim.

Not bubba.......
Bubba can save ya 25 50 75 bucks...
Bubba will tell ya all about that ..
Bubba price.
Bubba quality.
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by goalie
To clarify: who/where do you recommend I have it done through????

Someone that is cerracoat certified and listed on the site in your area.

Lots of people use bubba.
Their cerracoat guy..
The bytch about crap results.
And stomp up and down that cerracoat sucks.
What they dont say is their guy bubba is at fault.
Ever...........

Bubba takes short cuts.
Bubba uses glass media to blast.
Bubba uses dirty media.
Bubba dont clean metal in a acetone bath.
Bubba cleans with mineral spirts, gasoline, paint thinner...
Bubba cuts his ratios with his color and hardener to get more money outta the bottles.
Bubba has a jury rigged oven with uneven temp in it.
Bubba dont clean blasting media out before acetone bath, spraying, or cooking...



Go with graphite black.
One of the armour coat H series colors.

I have had numerous guns cerracoated.
Weather dont stop me either...

Posted about my cerracoated firearms many times.

Certified and listed cerracoat applicators
Cerracoat will schit can their listed applicators if they do half azzed work and dont follow their process verbatim.

Not bubba.......
Bubba can save ya 25 50 75 bucks...
Bubba will tell ya all about that ..
Bubba price.
Bubba quality.




Thanks.

That is actually helpful.

You other yahoos should take note.

👍
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by goalie
To clarify: who/where do you recommend I have it done through????

Someone that is cerracoat certified and listed on the site in your area.

Lots of people use bubba.
Their cerracoat guy..
The bytch about crap results.
And stomp up and down that cerracoat sucks.
What they dont say is their guy bubba is at fault.
Ever...........

Bubba takes short cuts.
Bubba uses glass media to blast.
Bubba uses dirty media.
Bubba dont clean metal in a acetone bath.
Bubba cleans with mineral spirts, gasoline, paint thinner...
Bubba cuts his ratios with his color and hardener to get more money outta the bottles.
Bubba has a jury rigged oven with uneven temp in it.
Bubba dont clean blasting media out before acetone bath, spraying, or cooking...



Go with graphite black.
One of the armour coat H series colors.

I have had numerous guns cerracoated.
Weather dont stop me either...

Posted about my cerracoated firearms many times.

Certified and listed cerracoat applicators
Cerracoat will schit can their listed applicators if they do half azzed work and dont follow their process verbatim.

Not bubba.......
Bubba can save ya 25 50 75 bucks...
Bubba will tell ya all about that ..
Bubba price.
Bubba quality.




Thanks.

That is actually helpful.

You other yahoos should take note.

👍


Well, If you’re too [bleep] stupid not to do your own research than ask On here, maybe you should take note? We aren’t in charge of raising your kids, dumbass.
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by goalie
To clarify: who/where do you recommend I have it done through????

Someone that is cerracoat certified and listed on the site in your area.

Lots of people use bubba.
Their cerracoat guy..
The bytch about crap results.
And stomp up and down that cerracoat sucks.
What they dont say is their guy bubba is at fault.
Ever...........

Bubba takes short cuts.
Bubba uses glass media to blast.
Bubba uses dirty media.
Bubba dont clean metal in a acetone bath.
Bubba cleans with mineral spirts, gasoline, paint thinner...
Bubba cuts his ratios with his color and hardener to get more money outta the bottles.
Bubba has a jury rigged oven with uneven temp in it.
Bubba dont clean blasting media out before acetone bath, spraying, or cooking...



Go with graphite black.
One of the armour coat H series colors.

I have had numerous guns cerracoated.
Weather dont stop me either...

Posted about my cerracoated firearms many times.

Certified and listed cerracoat applicators
Cerracoat will schit can their listed applicators if they do half azzed work and dont follow their process verbatim.

Not bubba.......
Bubba can save ya 25 50 75 bucks...
Bubba will tell ya all about that ..
Bubba price.
Bubba quality.




Thanks.

That is actually helpful.

You other yahoos should take note.

👍


Well, If you’re too [bleep] stupid not to do your own research than ask On here, maybe you should take note? We aren’t in charge of raising your kids, dumbass.


Dude, I almost killed my family transporting deer in a minivan.

We've already established in not in Mensa

😉
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Just trying to help, sounds like you need it
Do a toothbrush whack a mole job on the stock.
You cant fugg it up.
Have a granite like look that changes hue in different light.
Used a good matte clear coat over it.

My 3 fails at spray painting a stock on here .
Well documented.

Toothbrush whack a mole worked for me.

YMMV.

Dark green base coat
Black
Brown
Slightly lighter green.

Or one of the above for a base then use the others and even some other natrual earth tone colors.

Practice 1st to see how long a strike series will last before refresh
And get excess off your tooth brushes before going to the stock.
Work with speed and rhythm.
Let each color dry a day.
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
But, in all seriousness, smart people learn from their mistakes. Really smart people learn from other people's mistakes.

There are a lotta people on here who have done what I'm thinking about, and I can assess the responses by their history here.

It's almost like research.....
Rem Oil and a red rag.
Posted By: irfubar Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Ok, what? And which one provides 100% protection and isn’t cosmetic?


Be serious, even Stainless Steel isn't 100%


I’m just asking about this you posted. What’s not mascara?

IMO, cerakote is a cosmetic finish, mascara for men,

Coat it if you want, but that won't make the rifle a weatherproof, no maintenance weapon.

Birdsong can at least coat the majority of the parts including the firing pins , bolts and such, but even that can scratch and chip.


Sandbilly welcome to world of Kenneth logic..... he is a plumber after all.... lmao
Posted By: mirage243 Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Those that claim cerakote isn't durable never had a rifle that was properly cerakoted. The stuff is tough.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Ok, what? And which one provides 100% protection and isn’t cosmetic?


Be serious, even Stainless Steel isn't 100%


I’m just asking about this you posted. What’s not mascara?

IMO, cerakote is a cosmetic finish, mascara for men,

Coat it if you want, but that won't make the rifle a weatherproof, no maintenance weapon.

Birdsong can at least coat the majority of the parts including the firing pins , bolts and such, but even that can scratch and chip.


Sandbilly welcome to world of Kenneth logic..... he is a plumber after all.... lmao


I know. I’m just asking because I know he’s [bleep].
Posted By: irfubar Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by goalie
But, in all seriousness, smart people learn from their mistakes. Really smart people learn from other people's mistakes.

There are a lotta people on here who have done what I'm thinking about, and I can assess the responses by their history here.

It's almost like research.....


Brother Goalie, I have many firearms with Cerakote, both handguns and hunting rifles.... it's not the end all be all but it is damn good. I apply my own and with your metal working skills I bet you could also with minimal effort. If you would like advice how to I would be happy to help
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Ok, what? And which one provides 100% protection and isn’t cosmetic?


Be serious, even Stainless Steel isn't 100%


I’m just asking about this you posted. What’s not mascara?

IMO, cerakote is a cosmetic finish, mascara for men,

Coat it if you want, but that won't make the rifle a weatherproof, no maintenance weapon.

Birdsong can at least coat the majority of the parts including the firing pins , bolts and such, but even that can scratch and chip.


Sandbilly welcome to world of Kenneth logic..... he is a plumber after all.... lmao


I know. I’m just asking because I know he’s [bleep].


Can you cerakote the inside of a barrel? serious question.
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by goalie
But, in all seriousness, smart people learn from their mistakes. Really smart people learn from other people's mistakes.

There are a lotta people on here who have done what I'm thinking about, and I can assess the responses by their history here.

It's almost like research.....


Brother Goalie, I have many firearms with Cerakote, both handguns and hunting rifles.... it's not the end all be all but it is damn good. I apply my own and with your metal working skills I bet you could also with minimal effort. If you would like advice how to I would be happy to help


Thanks, but this is something that will probably be easier to just have someone do.

I've got enough stuff to do without learning how to do this without screwing it up. 😉
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Ok, what? And which one provides 100% protection and isn’t cosmetic?


Be serious, even Stainless Steel isn't 100%


I’m just asking about this you posted. What’s not mascara?

IMO, cerakote is a cosmetic finish, mascara for men,

Coat it if you want, but that won't make the rifle a weatherproof, no maintenance weapon.

Birdsong can at least coat the majority of the parts including the firing pins , bolts and such, but even that can scratch and chip.


Sandbilly welcome to world of Kenneth logic..... he is a plumber after all.... lmao


I know. I’m just asking because I know he’s [bleep].


Can you cerakote the inside of a barrel? serious question.


Sure you could, but why?

Maybe you should go
Back and read your original comment?
Posted By: irfubar Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Ok, what? And which one provides 100% protection and isn’t cosmetic?


Be serious, even Stainless Steel isn't 100%


I’m just asking about this you posted. What’s not mascara?

IMO, cerakote is a cosmetic finish, mascara for men,

Coat it if you want, but that won't make the rifle a weatherproof, no maintenance weapon.

Birdsong can at least coat the majority of the parts including the firing pins , bolts and such, but even that can scratch and chip.


Sandbilly welcome to world of Kenneth logic..... he is a plumber after all.... lmao


I know. I’m just asking because I know he’s [bleep].


Can you cerakote the inside of a barrel? serious question.


No and hell no... damn you are slow.... If a chrome moly barrel Dyna bore coat is your friend.... if stainless go naked.... should I use primer before I glue my pvc?
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Ok, what? And which one provides 100% protection and isn’t cosmetic?


Be serious, even Stainless Steel isn't 100%


I’m just asking about this you posted. What’s not mascara?

IMO, cerakote is a cosmetic finish, mascara for men,

Coat it if you want, but that won't make the rifle a weatherproof, no maintenance weapon.

Birdsong can at least coat the majority of the parts including the firing pins , bolts and such, but even that can scratch and chip.


Sandbilly welcome to world of Kenneth logic..... he is a plumber after all.... lmao


I know. I’m just asking because I know he’s [bleep].


Can you cerakote the inside of a barrel? serious question.


Sure you could, but why?

Maybe you should go
Back and read your original comment?

No you don't use it inside the barrel, which is why I won't/wouldn't call it a rust protection product.
You still have to maintain the weapon to prevent rust....
Thanks for playing along.
Posted By: irfubar Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Ok, what? And which one provides 100% protection and isn’t cosmetic?


Be serious, even Stainless Steel isn't 100%


I’m just asking about this you posted. What’s not mascara?

IMO, cerakote is a cosmetic finish, mascara for men,

Coat it if you want, but that won't make the rifle a weatherproof, no maintenance weapon.

Birdsong can at least coat the majority of the parts including the firing pins , bolts and such, but even that can scratch and chip.


Sandbilly welcome to world of Kenneth logic..... he is a plumber after all.... lmao


I know. I’m just asking because I know he’s [bleep].


Can you cerakote the inside of a barrel? serious question.


Sure you could, but why?

Maybe you should go
Back and read your original comment?

No you don't use it inside the barrel, which is why I won't/wouldn't call it a rust protection product.
You still have to maintain the weapon to prevent rust....
Thanks for playing along.


A patch with oil will take care of the bore for the duration of a hunt, especially if you tape the muzzle. The Cerakote with protect the external metal with no maintenance ..... ever
Experience matters.... you have displayed none
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Ok, what? And which one provides 100% protection and isn’t cosmetic?


Be serious, even Stainless Steel isn't 100%


I’m just asking about this you posted. What’s not mascara?

IMO, cerakote is a cosmetic finish, mascara for men,

Coat it if you want, but that won't make the rifle a weatherproof, no maintenance weapon.

Birdsong can at least coat the majority of the parts including the firing pins , bolts and such, but even that can scratch and chip.


Sandbilly welcome to world of Kenneth logic..... he is a plumber after all.... lmao


I know. I’m just asking because I know he’s [bleep].


Can you cerakote the inside of a barrel? serious question.


Sure you could, but why?

Maybe you should go
Back and read your original comment?

No you don't use it inside the barrel, which is why I won't/wouldn't call it a rust protection product.
You still have to maintain the weapon to prevent rust....
Thanks for playing along.


Are you [bleep] stupid?
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by SandBilly[/quote



Are you [bleep] stupid?


Well, if I reply to this thread just one more time, I'd say yes.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Ok
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Jeez guys, I start a thread about coating one of the ugliest rifles ever made and everyone's too busy bickering to even give me shiit about taking the ugly girl to prom......

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Posted By: MadMooner Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
http://blacknitride.com/
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by MadMooner
😂


Dude, I’m not ashamed, maybe embarrassed is the right word...But man, I’m horrible at artsy-fartsy painting.

The funniest part of this damn boat was I actually tried...I recruited good intel from SandBilly - who actually can paint things up in cool graphics, and I still humped the cat.

Sheesh, hold into the failure.

LOL

🦫


Your boat it bootifull, Beav!
Originally Posted by goalie

That rifles like a fat chick that's amazing in bed

That’s how toot died?
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
For a Dimension, I’d paint it, maybe with a brush. You wanted someone to give you schitt about having a Dimension; there you go 😛

There are some bake-on sprays like GunKote, that are pretty tough.

If actually paying someone to do a pro job, nitride all day and all night. Gets the inside of the barrel too. I have two factory Cerakoted guns that look good, a Howa Alpine and a CZ O/U, but I have no illusions about the durability of the coating. Also have two that are factory nitrided, a CZ 457 and a Knight ML that’s nitrided SS. Looks like nice matte bluing, and tougher than anything else AFIK.

rene is right about Bubba, for anything. Pay for good work, DIY, or save your money.
Originally Posted by goalie
Jeez guys, I start a thread about coating one of the ugliest rifles ever made and everyone's too busy bickering to even give me shiit about taking the ugly girl to prom......

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Ok...
Now I know what rifle you are talking about.

Didnt put the name with the rifle

Slumlotd has one of those also.
In .223
Accurate.

He can change barrels to .204 also IIRC

I.think .243 maybe too.


Strange looking rifles.
But very consistent accuracy wise.
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
This one has a .223 and 6.5 man bun.

Both shoot lights out.

By that, I mean cold bore, first shot, hits the same fugging place day after day.
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
I have to change the magazine and bolt to switch mine, but it works.

Stuffs ready for tomorrow, time for a cigar

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There's so much more to do bringing my son. Second weekend is just me and my summit viper
Posted By: Calvin Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Fausnaugh does it right. the right conditions will tear up even a ss rifle. No way I would shell out the money to cote a low value rifle. I went carbon for extended beach based hunts but the bolt and triggers turn brown.
Posted By: Huntz Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by MadMooner
I’d go rattle can.

If I were to put more than $20 in it, I’d go right to nitride.

^^^^^^
This,bought two rifles cerekoted.Both chipped and wore through the coat.Nitride or black chroming is the way to go.
Black Ice Coatings, Spanish Fork, Utah. Kicks the chit out of Cerakote.

http://blackicecoatings.com/coating/
Posted By: DMc Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by DMc
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by DMc
Somebody spain... are we talking cerakoted rifle or painted stock, or painted rifle and stock?


I'm thinking just metal. Have you seen a Dimension stock?

🤣🤣🤣

Once, but I had to divert my eyes....


Seriously, it's almost killing me, but the damn thing fits.

That rifles like a fat chick that's amazing in bed

OMGosh, BTDT
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by MadMooner


You mentioned this on the very first page.....

Sandbilly must have you on ignore? I just assumed it was alcohol related....

"blacknitride is not a coating"..... Color me surprised.
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi
Black Ice Coatings, Spanish Fork, Utah. Kicks the chit out of Cerakote.

http://blackicecoatings.com/coating/


oh go on............
Posted By: Kenneth Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Black-T
Honestly....

Never have had an issue with a walnut and blued gun in schitty weather rusting.

Good healthy oiling before hunting.

Unload gun back at the truck.
Hunch over inside cab if still raining with gun.
Pop open glove and grab some of the paper towel from the gas station.
Wipe down and dry before putting back in case.
The paper towels will even slide under the free float barrel to get water their too.
Not very hard to do........

Putting a wet gun in a case is extremely stupid and how many people have done that or seen others do it....
Just begging for surface rust to start happening fast.
Like within a hour a wet gun put in a case will start to surface rust.
How many have seen or heard that story.
A wet gun put in a case for a short amount of time or days or weeks
And the owner is like how did that happen and it is nothing connected to what they didnt do...

Leave butt end of case open to " breathe" till ya get home.

Blast out gun with a good aerosol protectant like Rem oil.
Or some similar product.
Clean your scope lenses.
Punch your bore
Leave case open or even put it in dryer on air cycle to tumble and dry for 10 or 15 mins.
Wipe off Rem oil
Get your self a barber brush or even a 1.5 to 2 inch wide regular brush and oil you gun.
Put back in case.
Go hunt next time.



Lotta people dont wanna spend that extra time like 15 to 30 mins taking care of a gun.
Was always taught.

Take care of your gun, before you take care of you.
A gun cant take care of itself.
But a gun can take care of you.




Oh.....
Bonus hint...

A exterior light coating of vaseline of all things is excellent water and salt air protection for guns in those conditions.
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Apparently hunting will take about two minutes this year. Went out back and the deer didn't even want to move. They was pissed I bothered their browse

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Hey!!
Your seeing deer which is always a good thing!!!
Has anyone ever tried Brownell’s Aluma-Hyde?
https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-...rosol-paints/aluma-hyde-ii-prod1117.aspx
Posted By: TheBigSky Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by SandBilly
I can’t recommend anyone, I do it myself. Not hard.

Here’s a LT 1100 I did in graphite black and maybe coyote tan?

You can’t really mess anything up that can’t be fixed.

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That looks good. I just can't seem to keep my spider webbing/marbelizing nice and neat like that. I always seem to overdo it in multiple spots.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by TheBigSky
Originally Posted by SandBilly
I can’t recommend anyone, I do it myself. Not hard.

Here’s a LT 1100 I did in graphite black and maybe coyote tan?

You can’t really mess anything up that can’t be fixed.

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That looks good. I just can't seem to keep my spider webbing/marbelizing nice and neat like that. I always seem to overdo it in multiple spots.



Try a test panel and don’t get so close.
Posted By: TheBigSky Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by TheBigSky
Originally Posted by SandBilly
I can’t recommend anyone, I do it myself. Not hard.

Here’s a LT 1100 I did in graphite black and maybe coyote tan?

You can’t really mess anything up that can’t be fixed.

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That looks good. I just can't seem to keep my spider webbing/marbelizing nice and neat like that. I always seem to overdo it in multiple spots.



Try a test panel and don’t get so close.

Will do. I had someone tell me to let it "drift" onto the stock and not to worry how much I waste.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by TheBigSky
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by TheBigSky
Originally Posted by SandBilly
I can’t recommend anyone, I do it myself. Not hard.

Here’s a LT 1100 I did in graphite black and maybe coyote tan?

You can’t really mess anything up that can’t be fixed.

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That looks good. I just can't seem to keep my spider webbing/marbelizing nice and neat like that. I always seem to overdo it in multiple spots.



Try a test panel and don’t get so close.

Will do. I had someone tell me to let it "drift" onto the stock and not to worry how much I waste.



Pretty good point, you will waste more. When you do a test panel also try making fast passes as you spray it.
Posted By: goalie Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by renegade50


Lotta people dont wanna spend that extra time like 15 to 30 mins taking care of a gun.
Was always taught.

Take care of your gun, before you take care of you.
A gun cant take care of itself.
But a gun can take care of you.




Yeah, just like in the Corps, the weapon gets cleaned before I get to shower.

But after the deer.
Originally Posted by River_Ridge


I have and it is extremely durable, a great option! My gunsmith does it right, like preparing the metal beforehand. Its tough too.
Posted By: DMc Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by goalie
Apparently hunting will take about two minutes this year. Went out back and the deer didn't even want to move. They was pissed I bothered their browse

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Your camera needs it's glasses checked.
Posted By: DMc Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Couple 35 Rems (not cerakoted)..., but I played with the stocks.

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Posted By: DMc Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Ruger #3. 45-70, can't help myself. It's a disease.

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Posted By: DMc Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
One I did cerakote, Another 35 Rem.

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Originally Posted by renegade50
Honestly....

Never have had an issue with a walnut and blued gun in schitty weather rusting.


Renegade,
All good stuff there. I have been told Vaseline works well, one of these days I should try it.

Having said that, your method is sound if one has a truck and a house to go back to at the end of the day. A backpack, horsepack, or in my case almost 30 years ago two weeks+ on an Alaska DIY float trips (twice) for moose and caribou doesn't provide that luxury. Three-four or more days of rain and everything is damp--including the TP carefully stored in Ziplocks.

Both times I brought a 30-06AI that had been blued by a friend of mine whose hobby and passion was bluing fine shotguns, and as a favor he deigned to blue my two custom M700's. He did very nice work. I prepped the crap out of that gun prior to shipping it north, brought wiping clothes and oil (I think it was the RemOil of that era), did my best to keep the puddles off the rifle, but it still speckled. So did my Redhawk I carried for backup.

These days, the "bluing" on most affordable class of rifles is pretty suspect, and no matter how militant about protecting the steel the chances are it will get see some rust if carried in inclement weather. Here in the Southern Rockies one has to work hard to even discolor SS, and I've had 4" of snow in 45 minutes pile up on my rifle while leaning against a tree while dressing out an elk. Although I still wipe down with an oily rag and oil the working parts of my SS rifles.
Originally Posted by renegade50
Honestly....

Never have had an issue with a walnut and blued gun in schitty weather rusting.

Good healthy oiling before hunting.

Unload gun back at the truck.
Hunch over inside cab if still raining with gun.
Pop open glove and grab some of the paper towel from the gas station.
Wipe down and dry before putting back in case.
The paper towels will even slide under the free float barrel to get water their too.
Not very hard to do........

Putting a wet gun in a case is extremely stupid and how many people have done that or seen others do it....
Just begging for surface rust to start happening fast.
Like within a hour a wet gun put in a case will start to surface rust.
How many have seen or heard that story.
A wet gun put in a case for a short amount of time or days or weeks
And the owner is like how did that happen and it is nothing connected to what they didnt do...

Leave butt end of case open to " breathe" till ya get home.

Blast out gun with a good aerosol protectant like Rem oil.
Or some similar product.
Clean your scope lenses.
Punch your bore
Leave case open or even put it in dryer on air cycle to tumble and dry for 10 or 15 mins.
Wipe off Rem oil
Get your self a barber brush or even a 1.5 to 2 inch wide regular brush and oil you gun.
Put back in case.
Go hunt next time.


Lotta people dont wanna spend that extra time like 15 to 30 mins taking care of a gun.
Was always taught.

Take care of your gun, before you take care of you.
A gun cant take care of itself.
But a gun can take care of you.


Oh.....
Bonus hint...

A exterior light coating of vaseline of all things is excellent water and salt air protection for guns in those conditions.




When I was hunting with blued rifle/shotgun I'd take it apart and smear a good coating of floor wax or sometimes Eezox on all the metal.

Parked finish and wax seemed to work really good.

If it got wet it got taken down and cleaned again anyway. When I was growing up money was scarce so you took care of your stuff or it got took away.

Admit I've never hunted for a long time out of a tent in wet WX.
Posted By: Huntz Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by renegade50
Honestly....

Never have had an issue with a walnut and blued gun in schitty weather rusting.

Good healthy oiling before hunting.

Unload gun back at the truck.
Hunch over inside cab if still raining with gun.
Pop open glove and grab some of the paper towel from the gas station.
Wipe down and dry before putting back in case.
The paper towels will even slide under the free float barrel to get water their too.
Not very hard to do........

Putting a wet gun in a case is extremely stupid and how many people have done that or seen others do it....
Just begging for surface rust to start happening fast.

Like within a hour a wet gun put in a case will start to surface rust.
How many have seen or heard that story.
A wet gun put in a case for a short amount of time or days or weeks
And the owner is like how did that happen and it is nothing connected to what they didnt do...

Leave butt end of case open to " breathe" till ya get home.

Blast out gun with a good aerosol protectant like Rem oil.
Or some similar product.
Clean your scope lenses.
Punch your bore
Leave case open or even put it in dryer on air cycle to tumble and dry for 10 or 15 mins.
Wipe off Rem oil
Get your self a barber brush or even a 1.5 to 2 inch wide regular brush and oil you gun.
Put back in case.
Go hunt next time.



Lotta people dont wanna spend that extra time like 15 to 30 mins taking care of a gun.
Was always taught.

Take care of your gun, before you take care of you.
A gun cant take care of itself.
But a gun can take care of you.




Oh.....
Bonus hint...

A exterior light coating of vaseline of all things is excellent water and salt air protection for guns in those conditions.






I have hunted Alaska Kodiak island with a Stainless rifle ,well lubed and it rusted over night.
Posted By: AKduck Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Tried the coating route. Less than a half season and it was ate up but I’m guessing for tree stands and whatnot it’ll work ok. My Howa mini will get nitrided.
X 3 Panama JOTC
All wpn systems
Park and nitrided coated wpns

Vaseline...
Clp....
Barber brush...

Even under a hooch in crap azz rain with oceans on both sides of you, you can do wpn maintenance and keep your schit from rusting.


I dont see how you cant do it in a outfitter tent or a remote hunt camp tent either...
Barber brush
Little bottle of oil or small aerosol bottle of oil
Little jar of vaseline.
Couple dry rags
Ziplock bag.
In the pack...

Perfect for hitting a wpn during breaks in weather.
Takes 4 or 5 mins.

Water standing on a wpn for hours and hours on end.
Not doing anything about it.
That starts the toe hold of rust .
And those toehold marks never go away once established.

And for big schits and giggles.
Put a bore snake in the ziploc also.
Posted By: Calvin Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by AKduck
Tried the coating route. Less than a half season and it was ate up but I’m guessing for tree stands and whatnot it’ll work ok. My Howa mini will get nitrided.


I have a couple coat jobs from fausnaugh that are doing really well.
Norway north of the artic circle 30 days.
Korea monsoon season from late july thru mid sept x 3 tours

Pretty extreme places....

Basic wpn maintenance versus aloofness keeps wpns from turning into rust monsters.
IMO and IME.....
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Originally Posted by renegade50
X 3 Panama JOTC
All wpn systems
Park and nitrided coated wpns

Vaseline...
Clp....
Barber brush...

Even under a hooch in crap azz rain with oceans on both sides of you, you can do wpn maintenance and keep your schit from rusting.


I dont see how you cant do it in a outfitter tent or a remote hunt camp tent either...


I have guns that haven't been off the golf carts, ATV and barn for years. I clean them with a brillo pad and water hose a couple times a year then oil them up with corrosion x. Rust buckets that have killed a bunch of stuff.
Posted By: Calvin Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Most people don’t want to screw around with rifle maintenance on a long hunt as their are too many things that can happen where it doesn’t get done.

I have an old ruger I want to poke a bear with for nostalgic reasons. Pristine shape. I am guessing I would have to pop it out of the stock every few days for a wipe down? Between the barrel and stock has been problematic for me before on my stainless rifles.
Posted By: gunchamp Re: Rifle coating: cerekote? - 10/16/21
Ceracoat works. Ive had more than a couple guns done. Its not perdect, but it does work well
Originally Posted by goalie
So, I'm asking here because of the traffic. I screwed up and shot my Dimension with the 6.5 man-bun barrel, and the damn thing shoots.

And the star-trek abortion of a stock fits me like it's custom.

So, I'm keeping it, and, since I don't take off bad weather days, wanna know what's the "go to" coating.

I'm not gonna take pictures of fish next to it underwater, but I don't wanna have to baby it or end up with a rusty POS.


Birdsong's Black T and never worry about it or look back!
Originally Posted by Kenneth


but even that can scratch and chip.




I have a lot of guns Black T'ed and have never seen it chip.
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