And voters are forcing more of them to be introduced by next year...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wolf-experts-colorado-officials-urgently-120036031.html

makes no sense........to many Dem tree huggers in CO

https://www.ksl.com/article/5032498...nce-the-species-was-reintroduced-in-1995

https://www.ksl.com/article/50260012/idaho-reaches-deal-to-reimburse-hunters-who-kill-wolves

https://www.ksl.com/article/46723678/house-votes-to-ban-introduction-of-wolves-in-utah

And, wolves are protected in Colorado, so they can't be killed even if eating your dog and cows. The article lefties say you need to scare them away with human presence like riding ATV's etc 🙄

Morons

SSS

I'm surprised a rancher would just sit back and let his cows and dog be munched. SSS

They wont.

Wolves only kill lame old animals and just enough to subsist. That is why they are being introduced to Flatirons park.

Getting volunteer outriders is a great idea. Little Sally can bring Bubbles the miniature jumper

Somebody needs to kill those 'experts' who put those wolves there, preferably in front of a whole lot of people.

When you've got one pair and everyone knows how many pups they had, seems like it'd be kind of hard to stay under the radar if you decided to thin the pack.

FedGov can spend endless tax $$$ to track wolves down to the last pup, but won't track the easily observable illegal filth spilling over the border.

It's more than just the federal government watching them. Sounds like lots of self-appointed "watchdog" groups.

I'd guess his hands are pretty well tied. And if he's got state agencies and others willing to stand guard at night and such, he'd have a hard time justifying taking it into his own hands.

At least it wouldn't look good in court.

I really hate this for all the Coloradans , it’s hard to believe that this has come to pass in your great state .

In Idaho, a few years back, the Feds did a middle of the night no knock swat raid on a rancher and his family.

The rancher was suspected of killing a wolf which was eating one of his cows.

Do not think the libs will not persecute with prejudice one who brings harm to their precious puppies.

What we really need is an active trapping and breeding program so that we could release a couple thousand wolves per year scattered through the major cities of both coasts.

50 each in Central Park, NY, and in Baltimore, Seattle, Portland, San Fran, LA, Pasadena, etc, etc

Dogcatcher: I hate to say "I told you so" - but "I told you so"!
I warned the CampFirers in Colorado, Utah, Arizona and New Mexico that the scourge that is the transplanted Canadian Wolves would soon be ruining things for them - unless they fought the re-introductions tooth and nail.
Sounds like "it" (the scourge) is starting in the southern Rocky Mountain states now.
Sad.
Thanks for nothing rmWf!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

So what's the RMEF going to do when there are so few elk that the season is closed on them?

You can fight all you want, the decision is already made, and nothing will change that.

I can tell you from experience, if you kill an animal unobserved and walk off without touching it I don't care if it is in your front yard they will play hell convicting you. Just do NOT make any statements. Repeating, do NOT make any statements.

That may be true for some animals, but have you ever tried it with some of the first wolves to migrate into your state with this many eyes on them?

The bitch known as alpinecrick should be tickled pink.


Fuucking coccksuckers.

Same old rhetoric. MT has a 6 month season on elk and soon you will be able to kill 3. WY has a long season and you can kill multiple.

Not in favor of wolves but it’s not the doom and gloom guys try to make it out to be.

Guys that couldn’t kill elk before the wolf simply blame wolves for not being able to kill them after the wolf.

Almost everyone convicted of shooting a protected species either picked it up or handled it in some way or talked about it. Wolves do not generally hang around where there are lots of observers. Pick up your brass and walk off.

Something bad happened to some Wolves in an area up here, didn't take long for the law to start snooping around asking whodunnit, nobody seemed to know anything.
I don't see the difference from Wolves and Rats, they are similar.

I've been in plenty of places where that would be feasible. Not sure it is on your own ranch with a bunch of people there guarding your cattle. And no doubt some there to make sure nothing happens to the wolves.

673;
Morning again my friend, we're part way out the door so I'll be uncharacteristically brief.

Without going into details because why would I?

The folks in the ranching and farming community that I know - for the most part - have either a backhoe or a track hoe on the place.

While I've heard rumors of some predator removal taking place, I cannot substantiate it, nor would I attempt to do so, again because why would I?

I'd be shocked down to my Canadian made Icelandic wool socks if the farmers and ranchers on the other side of the medicine line were substantially different, but I could be wrong.

Have a good one sir, we're off to the city for a grocery run.

Dwayne

The RMEF can eat a dick after that stunt. On a side note...I know they used to sell RMEF golf balls (might still?) I reached out to them and said it was ironic they supported golf, when golf courses and surrounding neighborhoods being built on winter range is a major contributor to declining deer and elk numbers in the west. Not to mention water usage. They are a piece of schit organization.

woof is just a big coyote in Utah.......

LOL

Shooting won't work boys, poison is your friend. Of course that's just what i've heard.

I'd say the wuffs reducing the North Yellowstone elk herd from 20,000+ to 4400 head is substantial, but maybe not to a POS bunnyhugger.

Eliminated the popular late cow hunts that helped families put good meat in their freezers.

That's pretty much doom and gloom to a lot of elk hunters.

I have been led to believe there is a method of reducing their numbers in a humane way, via baiting with a "poison" that simply sterilizes them. I like the idea although you aren't going to hear much about it.

I hope that is satire

The late season cow hunts eliminated the late season cow hunts.

An aging herd and liberal seasons were not sustainable. Anyone with just 2 firing brain cells saw it coming. Biology 101

Another thing, do not photograph. If you can help it do not get close enough to photograph. It has been surprising to me since I retired 11 years ago how many people put illegal stuff on Fakebook. Lots of cases made off of Fakebook admissions and cell phone videos and pictures.

I had a guy on face book ,who claimed to be a biologist ,and studied wolves . who claimed the very same thing .He told me wolves did not kill livestock or healthy wild game only the weak animals .I tried to tell him what y'all who live with wolves said ,he denied all of it ,so yes there are people that believe this

Practice the three S's. Shoot, shovel, and shut up. Wolves hunt in packs. They will rotate chasing a healthy animal until the animal can't run anymore, then the whole pack attacks the animal to kill and eat it. Doesn't matter how healthy the animal is. Wolves and bears were killed for two reasons. They were killing livestock and people might need the fur from either animal or the bear grease for cooking if they didn't have hogs. Most of the time they were killing livestock.

His last for 4 words are a good clue.

It was a number of years ago, but I knew a “rancher” that had a small outfit near Red Lodge. Wolves had been introduced and all was ok until the livestock losses started mounting up. Cowboys just started to shoot the wolves…. Some had sport targeting collared wolves then roping deer and putting the dead wolf collars on the deer. Wolves were almost eradicated in that area.

The powers that became to town to negotiate a truce. As related to me, the big beef was that filing a livestock loss claim was an administrative hassle and the poindexters reviewing the loss claims were denying or delaying many of them. So, the powers fixed it.

Suddenly, the livestock loss claims were processed promptly and paid. Last I heard most everybody ….except a few cows…..were ok with the arrangement.

The powers that be had to realize that it was part of their responsibility to come up with the money and prompt claim administration.

Hastings;

Almost everyone convicted of shooting a protected species either picked it up or handled it in some way or talked about it. Wolves do not generally hang around where there are lots of observers. Pick up your brass and walk off. [/quote]
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Words to live by, by a man who knows.

Use a bullet that will exit.

Congrats to BHA clowns like cal dumbed buzzh for getting wolves into the world's largest elk herd in Colorado. Since wolves have been introduced into Washington elk tags and seasons have been reduced over 50 per cent. .Oregon has hjsut gone to draw only non res archery tags because of the wolves. Used to be OTC tags over 50 yers

I never understand anti hunting, pro wolf trolls like you even bother posting on here.

SSS and poison is largely Internet and barstool fodder.

99% of guys will never lay eyes on a wolf.

99.9% will never get a shot at one.

Hey dough boy, how many wolves have you killed? The is one behind every tree in N. Idaho


Killing one would require you to actually get off the pavement though.

This is a lie.

They're coming right for us!

I have posted this before but will do so again….. I have a plot of ground in an area where lots range from 35 to 160 acres. There is an HOA. We had had a number of recent lion sightings and the head of our HOA…. A lady who had recently come to Colorado from Chicago, sent out a notice to all the landholders stating that mountain lions could not be harmed nor shot….. even if the lion was attacking your dog or horse…. it was against the law….

So, I responded to all the HOA that this was not actually the case and that if one followed the “Rule of the 3 S’s,” lions pestering horses or attacking pets could be disposed of. This lady came unglued …. She emailed all of us that she was a registered with the DOW as a “friend of wildlife” and it was her responsibility to report incidents of illegal killing of wildlife. Much fun was had as I patiently explained that …if….the “Rule of the 3’s” was carefully adhered to …..there would be no repercussions to the landowner who might have to shoot a lion to protect his dog.

Fun came to an end when someone explained the “Rule” to her and I received a big “harrumph.”

Obviously aren't killing THEIR cattle...

PROVE IT

Shooting, trapping, snaring, isn't going to put a dent into an established Wolf population.
They do kill for fun, do kill healthy Bucks/Bulls/Cows/Does as routine, fawns and especially Calves, that isn't all they kill, they can and will kill anything and everything they can. It doesn't take a pack to do it, a couple Wolves (2) will take down any Ungulate on this Continent.

Look at the regs. It’s so easy even a Texan can do it.

Absolutely. Read my comments in the second paragraph

Once again, PROVE IT you dipschitt

Well I guess not easy enough for all Texans.

Until they knock your door down at 3:00 AM, seize all your weapons, and swear they made a ballistic match to the bullet that killed the wolf.

Which they may or may not have ever actually found.

Love to see Democrats reaping what they've sown.

Well, unless you happen to set up a shooting position 600 yds from last night's wolf killed cow. There's an even chance you will kill a wolf the next day.

I hear that a 130 accubond from a 6.5-284 is well suited to the task.

Absolutely true! A longtime game warden friend told me that the best evidence they (usually) are able to collect from a SSS scene where one or more of the “S’s” were not adhered to was the boot prints around the carcass. He said that everyone wants to get up close to the wolf they killed so they walk up to it and gawk at it before leaving. He said that if someone shoots a wolf and does NOT leave their boot prints around the carcass a charge, let alone a conviction is significantly more difficult. His advice to me, should I ever find myself in that situation, was to collect my brass and exit the area the same way I came in obscuring my tracks in the process but first and foremost he said to NEVER walk up to the dead wolf….ever!

We live on a small island with 1 road in and out. The Stillaquamish River cuts through the delta and is the water that actually makes us an island, effectively cutting us off from the mainland. The North Cascades are only a stones throw from us as the crow flies. In the past couple of years we’ve had various carnivores visit our island with great pictures to prove their presence. We’ve had several good sized black bears visit our island but they usually fall for the old donuts and apple in a barrel trick which means they get a free one way trip back to the North Cascades. We’ve had several cougars visit us in the past couple years as well but they’re not as willing to be live trapped. A couple of weeks ago a picture was posted by a local family that live a mile or so away of what they believed was a wolf. I was asked by several people what my opinion was of the species of canine in the picture. I was (and am) blown away because without question the animal pictured was at very least half wolf. In my unscientific but well informed opinion that animal was without a doubt a wolf. It was very dark but not jet black and it was very large (tall legs). I’ve seen plenty of wolves and countless coyotes so I know the difference and this animal was NOT a coyote. On our way to dinner last night we raced a big male coyote for a 100 yards or so before he jumped into the woods and there’s no comparison between the 2. I doubt that wolf stuck around as it’s not been seen since so I’m sure that once he realized that he’s in the wrong neighborhood he hightailed it back to the mountains.

I’ve said it before and I still feel the same way…..I love being in the wild places and those places are more wild and exhilarating to me when the critters that should be there are there. Bears, cougars, wolves, etc make the wilderness what it is and I don’t want that to change. Unfortunately wolves don’t always stay put and when they don’t that’s when the conflicts happen. All predators need to be managed properly and their numbers must be kept in check. I don’t hate wolves….. I hate liberals and I hate how the liberals use and abuse our politicized court system to force their will on others. I also hate our corrupt court system. There are threats all around us but wolves ain’t one of them.

Well said.

Something you should know.....game management in parts of the USA is far superior to the game management we have here in BC, not even close. As an example, Idaho has been viewed by many here as the model we would like to be, but politics wont allow for increased game populations here.

It makes me wonder about the good work many game managers have done in some of the states, only to loose any control because of a devastated game population. The big loser is going to be the hunting community, and in my view, it wont be coming back without Wolf numbers brought back to zero or near zero.

I believe that to be true because that is what has happened here, there are other contributing factors that will play out in time, like they have here. The introduction of Wolves could be viewed similar to a free for all for hunters on the Elk pops without any rules or management in any way....think about it.