I’m anything but an expert, but disabling a pipeline on a seabed sounds a bit too technical and requiring a bit of operational prowess that the Ruskies have never really displayed.
Beyond that, why would they blow up two pipelines when all they have to do is turn the damn valve off?

Well, it ain’t fake. Here is the leak.

Big bubbles

Joe Biden always says the quiet part out loud.

https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1490792490466693120

Sweden says explosions.

https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1574751122404921344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I’m anything but an expert, but disabling a pipeline on a seabed sounds a bit too technical and requiring a bit of operational prowess that the Ruskies have never really displayed.
Beyond that, why would they blow up two pipelines when all they have to do is turn the damn valve off?

I’m a betting man and I’d put my money on us (USA). This dooms the Germans to economic collapse. There’s no way they can import enough gas now.

Due to the timing, the fact that three separate pipelines were affected ......

They have been working on their seafloor sabotage capabilities for a while now. Severing internet cables in particular. Placing explosives on a gas line they built is absolutely possible. Not saying they did do it, but it's withing their skill set . And ours, to be fair. Maybe others too.

Yup, recently there was the tea-party, followed by maga, both completely irrational and idiotic.

Phil

Yup, recently there was the tea-party, followed by maga, and somewhere in-between Q, all completely irrational and idiotic.

Phil

That the Germans would put themselves in this position speaks volumes about the capacity for dogmatic thinking to utterly blind human beings into jettisoning all self interest. I can't be reminded enough as to how fundamentally irrational decision making can be.

Thea last time the world squeezed Germany like this we got WWII.

I’m a betting man and I’d put my money on us (USA). This dooms the Germans to economic collapse. There’s no way they can import enough gas now.

I think I read that the pipe was 300 feet and only a very few countries had the means to do this meaning probably the US.

Destabilizing the world as usual

how does one place explosives on a very strong concrete and steel pipe at 300 feet or deeper?

actually up until the war started, the US accommodated, was friendly toward, and did nothing to hinder the Nazis.

We’re working overtime to start WWIII with a country we should have made peace and common cause with thirty years ago. We carried on with the Cold War and became the evil empire.

Well Phil sex with children is legalized now under Biden .

Aren't you late for children's drag queen strip show hour at your local California elementary school?

^^^ Exactly ^^^

The (((Victoria Nulands))) of this country made sure of that.

actually up until the war started, the US accommodated, was friendly toward, and did nothing to hinder the Nazis.

actually up until the war started, the US accommodated, was friendly toward, and did nothing to hinder the Nazis.

The pipeline..


Burns in his Sub " Pray for Ukraine" did it with a Himars underwater rocket.
Or he simply ran into it drunk as fuuuuk.


🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

I was referring to The Treaty of Versailles.

The two explanations that make sense are:

1. Why would the Russians sabotage a pipeline when they could simply turn the valve shut.

2. Germans had it sabotaged, like Cortes burning his ships, no turning back for the German populace, like it or not.

Have to say though, the Germans turning the gas OFF to kill their people is quite a switch. My, how times have changed, eh?

We’re working overtime to start WWIII with a country we should have made peace and common cause with thirty years ago. We carried on with the Cold War and became the evil empire.

The pipeline..


Burns in his Sub " Pray for Ukraine" did it with a Himars underwater rocket.
Or he simply ran into it drunk as fuuuuk.


🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

The two explanations that make sense are:

1. Why would the Russians sabotage a pipeline when they could simply turn the valve shut.

2. Germans had it sabotaged, like Cortes burning his ships, no turning back for the German populace, like it or not.

Have to say though, the Germans turning the gas OFF to kill their people is quite a switch. My, how times have changed, eh?

Lots of bad ideas have come out of Germany.

Shaped charges on a crawling pig.

For those not "In the Know" a "pig" travels through pipelines for various purposes such as inspection or cleaning.

Easiest way to cut an underwater pipeline if you have access to the pipeline.

Time will tell.


On an average day how many hours would you say I dominate your thoughts?

I think I read that the pipe was 300 feet and only a very few countries had the means to do this meaning probably the US.

Destabilizing the world as usual

Shaped charges on a crawling pig.

For those not "In the Know" a "pig" travels through pipelines for various purposes such as inspection or cleaning.

Easiest way to cut an underwater pipeline if you have access to the pipeline.

There's a reason you got some sort of Beaver Award, right?

Yup...Seal Team 3 for the task.

🦫

Gas exports to Russia were done.....fugg yer dumb.

Gas exports to Russia were done.....fugg yer dumb.

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The Smart Guys figure the Russians knew gas exports to Europe were done with no chance of returning.

LOL.

You should buy a Reading Book.

Burns knows all the high level military lingo and acronyms. He’s the real deal. When he and the “operators” get together that schidt flies. They brief him on all the latest top secret schidt.
That, or he’s read some Tom Clancy novels.

Even if the USA had nothing to do with it, we have been branded as the bad guys. This will lead to no where good.

kwg

Which is why it's not likely the USA cut the pipelines.

The USA would prefer that Russian gas made it to Europe for this winter.

Gives everyone time to source other gas.

The die is cast and Europe won't be on Russky gas long term no matter what eles happens.

Cutting pipelines not being used seems to be a play to the Putin Pufters world wide.

SEAL Teams don't do deep water work and a White Side Team even less so.

If, and it's a really big if, the USA blew the pipelines the divers would be specialized mixed gas divers that don't waste training time on CQB or para jumps.

The more you know.

The Smart Guys figure the Russians knew gas exports to Europe were done with no chance of returning.

Throw a few pigs with shape charges down the lines and try to blame the USA.

The Putin Pufters are already lapping up the narrative.

Video of the leak

Even if the USA had nothing to do with it, we have been branded as the bad guys. This will lead to no where good.

kwg

SEAL Teams don't do deep water work and a White Side Team even less so.

If, and it's a really big if, the USA blew the pipelines the divers would be specialized mixed gas divers that don't waste training time on CQB or para jumps.

The more you know.

Kind of correct...how about a sub? Russians have them too.

USN sub Jimmy Carter

The more info that comes out the more likely it seems that the Orcs blew a pipeline they knew would never carry gas to Europe.

Orcs = Russians?

But why would they do that? Just shut-off the valve and walk away. No muss, no fuss, no publicity.

Expain how the USS JC or any nuke sub gets into the Baltic without being spotted.

How does it travel through the Danish Straits without every one knowing the USA is operating a Seawolf in the Baltic and knowing it's the USS JC?

The Baltic Sea is not deep nor big and there is only one way in or out and it's shallow.

The more info that comes out the more likely it seems that the Orcs blew a pipeline they knew would never carry gas to Europe.

The Orcs (Russians) already shut off the flows.

Hard to blame the USA for gas shortages in Europe if the Russians kept the flows shut off.

Cut the pipelines that were never going to be used again long term and blame the USA and it's super secret subs.

When did Russia blame the US for this rummy? provide an actual quote

I’m a betting man and I’d put my money on us (USA). This dooms the Germans to economic collapse. There’s no way they can import enough gas now.

LOL.

Putin Pufter did in the first post of this thread.

The Orcs (Russians) already shut off the flows.

Hard to blame the USA for gas shortages in Europe if the Russians kept the flows shut off.

Cut the pipelines that were never going to be used again long term and blame the USA and it's super secret subs.

If they already shut off the flows, what’s up with all the bubbles?

Cut the pipelines that were never going to be used again long term and blame the USA and it's super secret subs.

Der Speigel is saying that the CIA warned the Germans weeks ago that this was going to happen.

That Putin is a clever little fellow, eh?

Does Burnsie get his news straight from Biden or does he lap it up once it's been run through Donnie Lemmon?

I think I read that the pipe was 300 feet and only a very few countries had the means to do this meaning probably the US.

Destabilizing the world as usual

The Russian Bot chimes in.

Apparent Sabotage Disables Nord Stream 1 and 2, Cutting Off All Direct Gas Supply to Germany from Russia
Anonymous German officials appear to acknowledge the strong possibility of American or NATO involvement

eugyppius
Sep 27


Yesterday evening, pressure in undersea Nord Stream 2 pipeline suddenly collapsed, and gas could be seen bubbling to the surface of the Baltic Sea near the Danish island of Bornholm. Shortly afterwardes, reports came of a total collapse in the pressure of our other major undersea pipeline connection to Russia, Nord Stream 1, indicating a further rupture.

Government officials assume that the damage is intentional, and the result of an attack by foreign forces:

Due to the timing, the fact that three separate pipelines were affected, and the severe pressure losses in Nord Stream 1, officials expect the worst. “We can no longer imagine any scenario other than a targeted attack,” said a person privy to the assessment by the federal government and federal authorities. They added: “Everything speaks against a coincidence.”

Such an attack on the seabed would be anything but trivial; it would have to be carried out with special forces – for example, by navy divers or a submarine, people informed of initial assessments said.

With regard to responsibility for the alleged attacks, two possibilities are being discussed. First, according to initial speculation, Ukrainian or Ukrainian-affiliated forces could be responsible. With the temporary shutdown of the Nord Stream pipelines, gas deliveries from Russia to Germany and Central Europe would only be possible via the Yamal pipelinje running through Poland or the Ukrainian pipeline network.

The piece that I’ve bolded is of course a lightly disguised reference to the United States or NATO. This should surprise nobody: President Biden said in early February, that in the event of a Russian invasion, “there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2, we will bring an end to it.” It’s well within the realm of possibility that such an attack would’ve been carried with the tacit approval (or even upon the request) of the Scholz government, to relieve them of political pressure to open the pipelines as the economy continues to collapse into the winter. The Greens are in government here, and Green-adjacent journalists have gone so far as to demand the dismantling of the pipelines to hurt Putin, so this too is far from crazy.

The second scenario investigators are contemplating, according to press reports, is of course a “‘false flag’ operation by Russia,” carried out to “drive up the price of gas,” “exacerbate the European energy crisis” and “fuel additional uncertainty.” Russia will surely be blamed for the attack as soon as it is confirmed, I have no doubt of that.

The pipeline attacks come as a few prominent German politicians have demanded the opening of Nord Stream 2, and the subject has attracted a growing protest movement.

jhttps://open.substack.com/pub/eugyppius/p/apparent-sabotage-disables-nord-stream?utm_source=post-email-title&isFreemail=true&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo0MjQ4MDY2NSwicG9zdF9pZCI6NzUxNjQ0NzYsImlhdCI6MTY2NDI1OTUxMywiZXhwIjoxNjY2ODUxNTEzLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMjY4NjIxIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.L-meHpU7j66MGy3kZviZIHtjuaYGy-pnRRy8L8vE2DY

This may be that point where Putin gets backed into that corner. If the US is involved in this and the world finds out, Boom! Mid terms are put on hold and the cabal finishes the job of turning the US into a third world country while fighting a war. Gentlemen, this may be it.

This may be that point where Putin gets backed into that corner. If the US is involved in this and the world finds out, Boom! Mid terms are put on hold and the cabal finishes the job of turning the US into a third world country while fighting a war. Gentlemen, this may be it.

We’ve been doing so much over there already that the distinction is pretty minimal, but if the US did this, it represents a huge escalation in that it is direct US action against a Russian asset. Hell, it’s a pretty big escalation anyway because we’re going to be blamed for it regardless.

We’re trying but we have zero leverage left against Russia. Russia now has zero reason to hold back anything in the Ukraine. Once the ground freezes hard the Russians will go to work dismembering the Ukraine while Europe collapses. Russia will now take all of the Ukraine for sure to secure the remaining gas lines to Eastern Europe. The EU is going to break up sooner rather than later. Italy will leave and so will Hungry. Czech Republic just elected a bunch of conservatives and may follow. As the German economy collapses the reason for being in the EU disappears for Eastern Europe. Eastern Europe will need energy and food. There will be no jobs or real money coming from the EU. Just inflation , economic collapse , energy insecurity , and hunger. Russia and China can offer everything the USA/EU is destroying. Russia has energy , fertilizer , and food supplies to offer and China offers markets for trade along with India. The energy Russia has to offer is Eastern Europe”s former energy security and although the markets Asia offers aren’t what the EU offered in the past they’re better than a collapsed EU will offer going forward. As for Germany it deserves everything bad it has coming and then some. Fornicate the Germans ! As for us we’re screwed too. Our incompetent fraudulent government is destroying the American Empire in a quick hurry. There’s already no honest elections so there’s no way for Americans to fix our problems peacefully.

I agree that it makes no sense for Russia to do it when they can just turn it off.

There would be diplomatic hell for the US to pay if it was done without permission from the German government. Going solo on this would be very risky.

The German government will have political hell to pay with its citizens if they find out their government did something to Jack the price of energy even further. Good way to get your political party ostracized if the people find out.

So, who else would be motivated to do?

It's a lot of risk with little payoff for the USA to cut gas lines from Russia to Europe.

It's not only Russian energy infrastructure but also EU energy infrastructure.

Getting caught in the shallow Baltic Sea is very likely and those lines were not moving gas anyways.

In 70 meters of water the coning tower on a Seawolf is visible from the surface. Nuke subs can't hide in the Baltic.

The Orcs have nothing to lose sending a few pigs with shape charges down Nord 1 & 2 as the Euro market for Orc gas is done.

We’ve been doing so much over there already that the distinction is pretty minimal, but if the US did this, it represents a huge escalation in that it is direct US action against a Russian asset. Hell, it’s a pretty big escalation anyway because we’re going to be blamed for it regardless.

NordStream isn't wholly owned by Russia.

https://www.nord-stream.com/about-us/our-shareholders/

The two explanations that make sense are:

1. Why would the Russians sabotage a pipeline when they could simply turn the valve shut.

Here's Johnny Vodka's hero stating he would destroy nord stream 2 if Russia invaded

The pipeline..
Burns in his Sub " Pray for Ukraine" did it with a Himars underwater rocket.
Or he simply ran into it drunk as fuuuuk.
🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

SEAL Teams don't do deep water work and a White Side Team even less so.

I wonder if someone didn’t wanna be in business with someone else anymore.

Or maybe there’s a big insurance payout coming if that’s even a thing on that pipeline

Are there companies that would insure an underwater pipeline? If I would have to guess i would say no.

Why is the US so hated in the world?

Throw a few pigs with shape charges down the lines and try to blame the USA.

The Putin Pufters are already lapping up the narrative.

We’re hated??? By who??? The 2 million + immigrants we’ve had pour over the southern border this year alone???

Is there another country this is happening to?

I think you need to pull your head out of your ass and realize this is the greatest and most equitable country in the history of mankind…and that’s with all our faults…

Burns knows all the high level military lingo and acronyms. He’s the real deal. When he and the “operators” get together that schidt flies. They brief him on all the latest top secret schidt.
That, or he’s read some Tom Clancy novels.

It's a lot of risk with little payoff for the USA to cut gas lines from Russia to Europe.

It's not only Russian energy infrastructure but also EU energy infrastructure.

Getting caught in the shallow Baltic Sea is very likely and those lines were not moving gas anyways.

In 70 meters of water the coning tower on a Seawolf is visible from the surface. Nuke subs can't hide in the Baltic.

The Orcs have nothing to lose sending a few pigs with shape charges down Nord 1 & 2 as the Euro market for Orc gas is done.

The plot thickens...

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Of course you would think the US is great under Biden. Typical idiot



How much time have you spent overseas outside of your broke double wide? Lol.

In support of BALTOPS, U.S. Navy Sixth Fleet partnered with U.S. Navy research and warfare centers to bring the latest advancements in Unmanned Underwater Vehicle (UUV) mine hunting technology to the Baltic Sea to demonstrate the vehicle’s effectiveness in operational scenarios.

Experimentation was conducted off the coast of Bornholm, Denmark, with participants from Naval Information Warfare Center (NIWC) Pacific, Naval Undersea Warfare Center (NUWC) Newport, and Mine Warfare Readiness and Effectiveness Measuring (MIREM) -- all under the direction of U.S. Sixth Fleet Task Force 68.

Burns knows all the high level military lingo and acronyms. He’s the real deal. When he and the “operators” get together that schidt flies. They brief him on all the latest top secret schidt.
That, or he’s read some Tom Clancy novels.

Interesting timing since the pipeline to Germany from Norway via Poland just went operational.

That’s a prime candidate for payback.

Gas has to be flowing in order for the pigs to move down the line.

Next...

It’s not very deep. It wouldn’t require a submarine. It could be a diver delivered by helicopter. Easy enough to do.

Six pages and nobody has blamed Trump yet?

I have been deeper on good old air.

Stay in your very small lane. The Dummy Lane.

Crawler pig can and do move both with and against flow.

It's how they do inspection and maintenance while the line is flowing.

All 4 lines were static at the time of cutting and pigs with shape charges could have come from either direction.


I have been deeper on good old air.

The list of possible bad guys is very long.

That said the decompression schedule on the way up would be long and a helicopter boring holes in the sky above the cut point would draw attention, even if after the fact.

The idea that only the USA had the ability to cut the lines is silly.

I don't see why the Russians would cut off a stream of income at time of war and eliminate a dependency Europe has on them. That doesn't make a lot of sense so I doubt they did it.

Bullshit.

I predict the loss of a Russian sub in the near future.

How deep was the pipeline?

The gas flows had been stopped.

There was no income and no future of income.

LOL.

I lived on Okinawa for 3 1/2 years and have over 500 dives.

I have been below 210 ft many times on regular air.

60- 70 meters or about 210 -250ft.

Yeah that not too bad and possible on regular gas, but if it was a diver, my bet it was a rebreather or trimix, considering the bottom time was probably more than a few minutes.

Better pop open a Extra Strength Nyquil, you're gonna need it ta lie your way outta that one.

Pipeline was at 300 feet.

And the dive belt musta been solid lead.

I could do a 230ft for 20min with a Navy table decomp schedule and overstay all the stops by a few minutes on an alum 80.

I always used dual 80s for those dives and a regulator on each tank and swapping out tanks every 1000psi in case a high pressure seat blew or some other thing happened.

Point is there are a lot of actors with the ability to cut those pipelines.

My bet is the lines were blown from the inside but I would not bet much as there are so many possible players.

Back in my "slimmer" days I could hard sink a 5 Mil hooded wetsuit on 16 lbs of lead.

The suit only gets thinner and less bouyant the deeper you dive.

You should read a book on Boyles Law, Dumb Azz.

#Okinawa

Stupid fat fugk

Things are getting dicey and our country is being led by a senile pedophile that schits his pants.

What can go wrong? I bet Putin isn't licking an ice cream cone right now.

But Trump has mean tweets. Yes that happened

Easy Ribka... don't pick on John.

He is a diving WIZARD... as well as an expert on guns, elk... and Häagen-Dazs

Wyoming is HUGE on reefs... and ocean front deep water...

One of the many advantages of high end Wizardry is many skill sets.

Diving Wizardry was mastered in Okinawa.

Elk killin and LR shooting Wizardry in Wyoming.

Until those sweet 24hr checks start coming my Sub Zero freezers are on hold and so is Ice Cream Mastery. Looking at you Rick Bin.

Geopolitical Wizardy just came naturally.

That’s dandy. You should pioneer longe range shooting while diving.

I did.

Nobody had my reach with a spear gun.

Why would you expect any thing less?

There's a reason you got some sort of Beaver Award, right?

Reward? Was a fever, wasn’t it?

One of the many advantages of high end Wizardry is many skill sets.

Diving Wizardry was mastered in Okinawa.

Elk killin and LR shooting Wizardry in Wyoming.

Until those sweet 24hr checks start coming my Sub Zero freezers are on hold and so is Ice Cream Mastery. Looking at you Rick Bin.

Geopolitical Wizardy just came naturally.

show a pic of your dive book and all of the 200 feet plus 20 minute plus recreational dives you've done.

lmao no wonder all of your businesses have gone bankrupt

But the real point is that cutting those pipelines would be very easy for many actors and we may never know who were the real players.

Orcs?

Of course you would think the US is great under Biden. Typical idiot


People come to the US because they can make more money
Get free healthcare ( Americans have to pay) free housing free food free education and they don’t even to pay taxes
They never have to learn English or assimilate into our culture


America has an open border it shares with a dangerous third world schit hole. What other first world country shares an open border with a third world dump?


Doubt you could even find Europe or Ukraine on a map. Lol



How much time have you spent overseas outside of your broke double wide? Lol.

That's my bet.

Orc gas to Europe was done with no chance of regaining the market share or ever again shipping gas on those lines.

Those lines still had 1500 psi of gas so the Germans could have extracted much of the gas in the lines as they now own the line end points.

Putty Boi sends 4 pigs with shape charges down the lines and the Putin Pufters rush to blame USA.

But many actors had the tech to cut those lines.

I could do a 230ft for 20min with a Navy table decomp schedule and overstay all the stops by a few minutes on an alum 80.

I always used dual 80s for those dives and a regulator on each tank and swapping out tanks every 1000psi in case a high pressure seat blew or some other thing happened.

Point is there are a lot of actors with the ability to cut those pipelines.

My bet is the lines were blown from the inside but I would not bet much as there are so many possible players.

Your wizardry (besides how many ways you’ve taken NyQuil) is suspect given your willingness to suck Zelensky’s tranny cock. If you don’t comprendo , I’ll PM you a dumbed down version.

The plot thickens...

Many could have done. Some had the motive to do it and one said he would do it. The simplest answer is most often correct. Biden did it. He's got such a hard on for Poohtin you'll think Poohtin was a 10 year old girl. He probably sniff poohtin too if given the chance.

Bb

The Air Force would have Article 15ed me for anything below 130ft much less all the singleton dives so writing down dives that would get you issues if your Comand knew always seemd silly.

Anyone who was anyone diving on Okinawa from 85-88 knew who I was and the dive store I worked, Ed's Pro Dive.

The fill stations at Kadena Marina and Tori Station filled my double 62s and double 80s many many times.

That's my bet.

actually up until the war started, the US accommodated, was friendly toward, and did nothing to hinder the Nazis.

There was no income and no future of income.

Getting caught in the shallow Baltic Sea is very likely and those lines were not moving gas anyways.

In 70 meters of water the coning tower on a Seawolf is visible from the surface. Nuke subs can't hide in the Baltic.

The Bornholm Blow-Up Repeats the Bornholm Bash — Poland Attacks Germany and Blames Russia
Posted on September 28, 2022 by Lambert Strether
Lambert here:

Helmer sheds some light on this extraordinary tweet by global thinker, Bullingdon Club member, AEI fellow, former Minister of Defense of Poland, and Blob spouse Radek Sikorski:


Thanks for what? Helmer explains.

By John Helmer, the longest continuously serving foreign correspondent in Russia, and the only western journalist to direct his own bureau independent of single national or commercial ties. Helmer has also been a professor of political science, and an advisor to government heads in Greece, the United States, and Asia. He is the first and only member of a US presidential administration (Jimmy Carter) to establish himself in Russia. Originally published at Dances with Bears

The military operation on Monday night which fired munitions to blow holes in the Nord Stream I and Nord Stream II pipelines on the Baltic Sea floor, near Bornholm Island, was executed by the Polish Navy and special forces.

It was aided by the Danish and Swedish military; planned and coordinated with US intelligence and technical support; and approved by the Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki.

The operation is a repeat of the Bornholm Bash operation of April 2021, which attempted to sabotage Russian vessels laying the gas pipes, but ended in ignominious retreat by the Polish forces. That was a direct attack on Russia. This time the attack is targeting the Germans, especially the business and union lobby and the East German voters, with a scheme to blame Moscow for the troubles they already have — and their troubles to come with winter.

Morawiecki is bluffing. “It is a very strange coincidence,” he has announced, “that on the same day that the Baltic Gas Pipeline opens, someone is most likely committing an act of sabotage. This shows what means the Russians can resort to in order to destabilize Europe. They are to blame for the very high gas prices”. The truth bubbling up from the seabed at Bornholm is the opposite of what Morawiecki says.

But the political value to Morawiecki, already running for the Polish election in eleven months’ time, is his government’s claim to have solved all of Poland’s needs for gas and electricity through the winter — when he knows that won’t come true.

Inaugurating the 21-year old Baltic Pipe project from the Norwegian and Danish gas networks, Morawiecki announced: “This gas pipeline is the end of the era of dependence on Russian gas. It is also a gas pipeline of security, sovereignty and freedom not only for Polish, but in the future, also for others…[Opposition Civic Platform leader Donald] Tusk’s government preferred Russian gas. They wanted to conclude a deal with the Russians even by 2045…thanks to the Baltic Pipe, extraction from Polish deposits, LNG supply from the USA and Qatar, as well as interconnection with its neighbours, Poland is now secured in terms of gas supplies.”

Civic Platform’s former defence and foreign minister Radek Sikorski also celebrated the Bornholm Blow-up. “As we say in Polish, a small thing, but so much joy”. “Thank you USA,” Sikorski added, diverting the credit for the operation, away from domestic rival Morawiecki to President Joseph Biden; he had publicly threatened to sabotage the line in February. Biden’s ambassador in Warsaw is also backing Sikorski’s Civic Platform party to replace Morawiecki next year.

The attack not only escalates the Polish election campaign. It also continues the Morawiecki government’s plan to attack Germany, first by reviving the reparations claim for the invasion and occupation of 1939-45; and second, by targeting alleged German complicity, corruption, and appeasement in the Russian scheme to rule Europe at Poland’s expense. .

“The appeasement policy towards Putin”, announced PISM, the official government think tank in Warsaw in June, “is part of an American attempt to free itself from its obligations of maintaining peace in Europe. The bargain is that Americans will allow Putin to finish building the Nord Stream 2 pipeline in exchange for Putin’s commitment not use it to blackmail Eastern Europe. Sounds convincing? Sounds like something you heard before? It’s not without reason that Winston Churchill commented on the American decision-making process: ‘Americans can always be trusted to do the right thing, once all other possibilities have been exhausted.’ However, by pursuing such a policy now, the Biden administration takes even more responsibility for the security of Europe, including Ukraine, which is the stake for subsequent American mistakes.”

“Where does this place Poland? Almost 18 years ago the Federal Republic of Germany, our European ally, decided to prioritize its own business interests with Putin’s Russia over solidarity and cooperation with allies in Central Europe. It was a wrong decision to make and all Polish governments – regardless of political differences – communicated this clearly and forcefully to Berlin. But since Putin succeeded in corrupting the German elite and already decided to pay the price of infamy, ignoring the Polish objections was the only strategy Germany was left with.”

The explosions at Bornholm are the new Polish strike for war in Europe against Chancellor Olaf Scholz. So far the Chancellery in Berlin is silent, tellingly.

Follow on the map where the Bornholm Blow-up – three simultaneous bomb or torpedo explosions – was arranged.



The Nord Stream operating company posted first notice of the attack on its website on the evening of September 26. “Tonight [Swiss time] the dispatchers of the Nord Stream 1 control centre registered a pressure drop on both lines of the gas pipeline. The reasons are being investigated.”

The following morning the company added: “The significant pressure drop caused by the gas leak on both lines of the gas pipeline registered yesterday leads to a strong assumption of the pipeline physical damage. Nord Stream AG immediately informed the relevant coast guards about the incident. The positions of two assumed damages have been identified and are located north-east from Bornholm in Swedish and Danish EEZ, respectively. Currently the Swedish and Danish maritime authorities established a 5nm safety zone around the identified locations (Nautical information | Danish Maritime Authority (dma.dk)). Nord Stream AG has started mobilization of all necessary resources for a survey campaign to assess the damages in cooperation exchange with relevant local authorities. Currently, it is not possible to estimate a timeframe for restoring the gas transport infrastructure. The causes of the incident will be clarified as a result of the investigation.” The European sanctions regime blocked company officials from investigating at the site.

Russian satellite, aviation, and electronic monitoring of the area is comprehensive; Ukrainian double-agents corroborate. The Russian account of what happened is provided in this summary of open sources by Gazeta.ru. The military preparations in the days and hours before the blasts have not been disclosed, yet.

“The operator company Nord Stream said that at the same time destruction was recorded on three lines of the offshore gas pipelines Nord Stream and Nord Stream–2. ‘The destruction that occurred in one day simultaneously on three lines of offshore gas pipelines of the Nord Stream system is unprecedented. It is impossible to estimate the time frame for restoring the operability of the gas transportation infrastructure,’ the operator of Nord Stream noted.”

“The Kremlin is concerned about the situation. ‘This is very disturbing news. We are talking about some kind of destruction in the pipe of an unclear nature in the Danish economic zone,’ said Dmitry Peskov, press secretary of Russian President Vladimir Putin. The Kremlin spokesman stressed that the pressure in the gas pipelines had dropped significantly: ‘This is a completely unprecedented situation that requires urgent investigation.’ Peskov noted that the nature of the destruction is unknown. Sabotage is not excluded. ‘No option can be ruled out now. Obviously, there is some kind of destruction of the pipe. And what was the reason – before the results of the research appear, it is impossible to exclude any option,’ Putin’s press secretary added.”

“The opinion that the destruction occurred because of someone’s ‘ill will’ was expressed earlier by the deputy head of the National Energy Security Fund Alexei Grivach. ‘If a leak on one line could still be an accident, the consequence of a defect or an involuntary impact, then on three [lines] it is clearly someone’s ill will. Well, who is fighting with Russian gas in Europe is not really hiding,’ RIA Novosti quotes him as saying. Grivach believes that it will take months to repair the gas pipeline lines. ‘The representative of the operator company Ulrich Lissek drew attention to the fact that it is difficult to determine the causes of the pressure drop due to ‘the sanctions regime and the lack of personnel on the ground.’ On the night of September 26, a leak occurred on one of the lines of the Nord Stream-2 pipeline. According to the representative of Nord Stream 2 AG, Ulrich Lissek, ‘in some place’ along the pipeline, ‘most likely a hole has appeared.’ He said that in normal mode, the pressure inside the gas pipeline lines ‘is 105 bar“, but on the German segment it has decreased to 7 bar. The Danish Maritime Administration has discovered damage to a gas pipeline near the island of Bornholm. Presumably, the alleged point of emergency is located in the exclusive economic zone – just beyond the border of the territorial waters of Denmark. The leak was located at the position of 54 °52.60′ north latitude— 015 ° 24.60′ east longitude, writes RBK.”


For RBK’s coverage, including surface filming by the Danes of gas bubbling above the pipeline holes, click.

This is what the government in Warsaw arranged at Bornholm a year and five months ago. At that time Morawiecki was prime minister; the German chancellor was Angela Merkel. The official Warsaw innuendo in Merkel’s direction was more restrained than it is now against Scholz.


Left: Angela Merkel; right, Mateusz Morawiecki. Source: http://johnhelmer.net/

Then the Polish spokesman for the security and intelligence services, Stanislaw Żaryn, launched a stream of accusations on his Twitter account. According to Zaryn, Russian public disclosure of the Baltic engagements was “information warfare” intended as a “pretext for launching activities aimed at enhancing its military presence in the Baltic region”. He went on: “#NordStream2 may be used by #Russia as a pretext for the deployment of its naval forces along pipeline’s route. This may lead to a partial closure of the Baltic Sea.”

Now Zaryn’s innuendo is plainer. What Zaryn means to say is that Germany “jeopardizes the security of Poland”.


Western propaganda media have tried to create the appearance of German government approval for the Polish attack.

“Denmark, Germany and Poland warn of ‘sabotage’ after Nord Stream leaks”, the Financial Times, the Japanese platform in London, headlined: “Berlin says Russia’s involvement cannot be excluded after damage to gas pipelines at centre of Europe’s energy crisis.” Scholz and his ministers were not quoted. Instead, low-ranking, anonymous “German officials said there was concern in Berlin that the sudden loss of pressure in both pipelines could be the result of a ‘targeted attack’. They added that Russia’s involvement could ‘not be excluded’, but said Germany was not involved in the investigation being run by Denmark and Sweden.”

In Washington, the local newspaper claimed “European leaders blame Russian ‘sabotage’ after Nord Stream explosions”, quoting Danes, Swedes, Poles, Ukrainians, Secretary of State Antony Blinken, and “five European officials with direct knowledge of security discussions [who] said there was a widespread assumption that Russia was behind the incident. Only Russia had the motivation, the submersible equipment and the capability, several of them said.” Not a single German government official could be found to speak by the newspaper’s Berlin bureau.

The temptation for Morawiecki to break out of the political stalemate he and his Law and Justice (PiS) party have been in since June has also been driven by fear that, following the fresh Russian reinforcements, the Ukrainian battlefield will move west and south; Ukrainian electric light and heat will be cut off; and millions of fresh refugees will attempt to cross into Poland again.

Tracking polls for Polish voter intentions illustrate the flat lines for the two leading parties, and the potential growth of the left and right minority parties. On September 1, the PiS party leader launched the Polish reparations attack on Germany, declaring “we have also taken the decision as to the further steps…We will turn to Germany to open negotiations on the reparations.” The move didn’t shift the party’s poll rating. The Bornholm Blow-up was already in planning for three weeks later.

Static pressure on the lines.

Nord 2 went from over 100 bar to 7 bar. That's a lot of gas in a line that long.

The possibility of Germany and Europe lifting the sanctions and continuing to receive Russian energy is now off the table.

Who benefits?

Not Russia.

Not Europe.

super knowledgeable. Weren't you the same brave man who stayed home 2 years during the deadly covid? lol

I predict the loss of a Russian sub in the near future.

That depth is 8 atmospheres of pressure and at that pressure a typical aluminum tank would last me like 7 minutes tops.

This is flat-fugking priceless.

LMFAO

Why would the Russians sabotage their leverage with Europe? That makes absolutely no sense.

Rest assured, Putin is pissed and will not take this lying down.

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I honestly hope Putin has a cooler head than many in our government. In the short term, blowing this up changes nothing. True it does reduce Russia’s leverage, on the other hand it may demarcate the sides a little. If Russia has little hope that Europe will falter this winter and ask for Russian gas because there is no pipeline to deliver, the incentive for escalation might die down a bit.

If, and that’s a pretty big if, this doesn’t escalate, it’s probably going to boil down to a wrecked Ukraine that continues to suck on the teat of the US, Russia getting the territories it wants, as a Europe nearly as divided as it was in the Cold War with the lines farther East.

The real losers though are going to be Ukraine and Europe. Russia will be fine. The US will be fine. Russia will have gotten what it wants at great price. The US will have bloodied the bear’s nose and freshly subjugated Europe. But everything is going to be much more expensive in Europe. Everything. And it’s industrial clout will be much less. Ukraine will be a wreck and it is unlikely that a future Trump or DeSantis administration elected on the promise of America First will continue to send unlimited cash. So, it will continue to be the poorest state in Europe, only completely destroyed.

In the above scenario look for the US to continue to impoverish Germany and build up Poland. Poland will become the chief US proxy in Europe.

On the other hand, it could escalate greatly. Easily. This is a very dangerous time and we have nuts in control.

It’s hard to fathom Poland antagonizing Russia. It certainly hasn’t worked out well in the past. Poland once again setting itself up to be destroyed at the behest of the empire that just transferred from London to Washington.

The Baltic Pipe is a natural gas pipeline under construction between the Norwegian sector of the North Sea and Poland. It is a strategic infrastructure project to create a new gas supply corridor. When completed in January 2023, it will transport natural gas from the North Sea to Poland via Denmark at up to 10 billion cubic metres (350 billion cubic feet) per year.[1] The project is being developed by the Danish gas and electricity transmission system operator Energinet and the Polish gas transmission system operator Gaz-System.[2][3] The project is recognised as a project of common interest of the European Union.[4][2]

Imagine if instead of Polish people moving all over Europe in search of jobs, Poland could leverage is position of controlling all the pipeline access into Europe and its comparatively cheap labor to bring industries formerly located in Frankfurt and Berlin and so on, a bit farther East. Why, Poland could then use its position between East and West, and its clout as the chief US client state in Europe, to dominate both East and West Europe.

I guarantee you they are having these delusions of grandeur in Warsaw and they are being encouraged.

I can see that fantasy driving the Poles. It could also turn into Poland being ground zero for WWIII. The other problem with that fantasy is that Germany will figure it out eventually and change governments and policies. I’d hate to make the Germans my enemy. Especially if I shared a long border with them. Just eighty years ago they had conquered all of continental Europe and were attacking Moscow. If it weren’t for the industrial might of the USA the Germans would have finished off the British and very likely the Russians. Attacking and Humiliating Germany seemed to motivate them after WWI and set free their inner demon.

I once asked one of my professors if Germany would rise again militarily and he scoffed. I asked him why he was so sure. He replied that it never was about Germany, it was about Prussia taking over Germany. Prussia was the military heart of Germany. Prussia has been part of Poland for going on 80 years now and the Prussians all got killed and or evacuated.

By the way, Poland just said Germany owes it $1.32 trillion in war reparations. With NS 1 and 2 down, it now has the power to put the screws to Germany if it doesn’t play ball.

Tucker is more than likely right… my tongue in cheek “prediction” was directed towards those who have suggested that our pipelines may be subject to a retaliatory strike from Russia…I have no knowledge about our current capabilities of tracking Russian subs, but I’d hazard a guess that it’s a lot better now than it was 40 years ago.

So who owns the pipeline in that section of the Baltic Sea? Would this not be considered an act of war by Russia?

Clyde