??

No

probably

iffin you use a pre safety Marlin

No better than a 223.

BTDT.

Not anymore.

Just that??

Only one with one of them tactical cheese graters on it. And some kinda glow in the dark sights

Not ever.

A hunter using a 30/30 can kill a deer, but a 30/30 on its own cannot kill a deer.

Probably need to use a TSX for alla that speed!!🤣🤣

Good possibility it owns the record.

Well.......

It is complicated.
According to many, no!

But there are newer rounds, in guns that must be bought new,
giving similar numbers, that kill like The Hammer of Thor!

Gotta have that Hog Hunter stuff with the shiny silver red labeling

Not without pointy bullets.

Lmao

Better put one of them Thier new fangled muzzle breaks on it .don't want to break your shoulder from the recoil

Yall realize how much bobcat meat that cartridge put on the table??

They could sell ice to an Eskimo

Zombie Max might help.

SOme days , I wished I would just have bought a 30-30 WIn. and been done with it all. Still kills lots of deer, but I seldom here of anyone killing bear with them anymore.

Also, I am pretty sure the only "hog" specific ammo is 223 and 30-30.

How in the fugg can anybody kill a hog with a 223??

Like swatting flies with a feather.

I do like those little fluorescent tips.

30-30 user better hunter then creedmoor users ......

yea

Superformance and pray

30-30

Shoot now.........hunt later.

depends how hard you swing it at them.....

Absolutely not. The bullet will bounce off, fly back, and knock your hat off.

Don’t be another ugly statistic, Go Creed!

Always take sound shots

Ever since deer discovered Kevlar it's been rough

joe told me pointy bullets can make all the shells go off and blow the gun up, you shouldn't give dangerous advice

Saw something about the 2023 SHOT Show and the 30-30 Creedmore............

That's GOTTA be the SCHIZZ !!!!!!!!!

Killed millions of them.

I will admit, my first deer was shot with a 30-30 & a 170 grain Core-Lokt. Straight on frontal that went off center.

Jesus what a rodeo. Kind of soured me on the cartridge. Stepped up to something that scooted at about 3k fps and no rodeos.

Bet I could get along fine nowadays though. The Indian has learned how to steer his arrow a bit better.

Well, since everyone on the internet seems to own a rifle that "shoots like a laser" and "hits like the Hammer of Thor", guess the 30-30 no longer qualifies as a deer rifle.

Any proof

It’ll take elk no prob as well. One of my favorite “mt rifles” for cutting up a steep elk trail and waking them out of bed.

Only once.

If it's your only thing you have and limit your shots to 25 yards and under...............

Been killing them dead as they can be for me for over 40 years. Still got a seriously dead one in the freezer from last season.

No, hunters using one may have.

My 30-30 is a savage, so there LOL

In fairness, a .22 Short will kill a deer, too.

No. But if you neck one up to 9mm it will blow the lungs clean out of them and into the next county.

Sheeeit... crappy Rem or Win 165's in a 30-30 is about as deady as it gets, if you can hit em.

I don't think you're allowed to say savage anymore

How many deer have you killed?

Ol’, would imply that your long in years and therefore should have experience?

Is this a joke?

Indigenous Rifle

Got my 1st deer and 1st elk with a 32 Spcl. Same thing for all practical purposes.

Savage...there said it...

Only if you A.I. it

When did they start making 165's for the .30-30 ? I've killed a pile with 150's and 170's but never seen any 165's.

its called the 'Need More'

Nope, ol' could be a young guy, >young but he's a good ol' boy.

Serious >oh hale yes

Greg,

You just made ""the list"".

Think Ultramax builds some.

Cast bullet cowboy loads I bet. Pretty sure Remington nor Winchester loads a 165.

Kinda what i was thinkin.
Jokers on here yea killt a million deers

alien information? that sounds crazy, you boozed up already?

No! You need a 600 Nitro Express for that using a 900 grain bullet!

Good thing that it was not a 9MM
You would have blown his lungs out

Well it AIN'T "Artificially Inseminate".................

Maybe "Ackley Improved" ???

""DEER""!!!!!

I only use 170’s!

As for the 22 short. My count is at 2

I almost think this is a serious post.

Only thing missing is “stunt shooter”.

You serious

I'd bet they have killed more deer than any other caliber.
Still hunt with my 1951 Model 64, deadly if you keep the shots under a 100 yd.

Is this a serious question? If so....

I have killed whitetail deer with 30-30, 30-06, 300 Savge, 243 Win, 50 and 54 caliber flint and cap locks as well as recurve and compound bows. My son has so far killed 3 buck and two antlerless deer with a Marlin 336 30-30, all one shot kills.

As far as the centerfires and muzzleloaders, I have not seen a difference in killing power given the same shot placement and a deer is just as leg broke with a 30-06 as he is with a 30-30. Actually, a lung or heart shot deer, with any of these calibers, will sprint anywhere from 10 to 50 or so yards before dropping. Usually facing back in the direction they were hit.

Bullet manufacturers have had over 100 years to perfect 30-30 bullet performance at the velocities the cartridge is capable of.
.
To be honest though, all these shots have come under 100 yards, so distance will always factor into it. Where we hunt we can't see much further unless it's in the Allegheny Mountains. We don't hunt powerlines or bean fields, Etc.

🙄

The 30-30 is my go to cow killer.


Open sights, brain shot.


I don't like a scope for shooting precision at 10 yards.

Kills everything

Not only deer, but my dad used it for moose.

10 yards.

Even better.

You sons a guns think I'm bluffin'?




Chit is about to get real...

The buck on the left was killed about 30 miles east of me with a Springfield Arms Model 840 30-30 and 170 gr Remington Core-Lokt.

30 miles is about as far as the thutty-thutty is good for.

Somebody 'bout to make some beef.

It's what's for dinner.

Bullet technology has come a LONG way since the 1890’s, that said, it hasn’t improved so much that the 30WCF/30-30win can effectively kill deer. Many will try it as a stunt, but it requires getting extremely close to the animal and competently placing a very tricky shot. Not many shooters are capable of such a feat. Better to stick with something with lots of knockdown power, like a 6.5 Creedmoor.

30-30 was my first deer rifle I had good luck with it in the woods. Most shots were close 25-50 yards a buddy of mine killed a 6 point at 150 yards.

I think a .60-60 would be mo betta.

Definitely, NOT!




🦫

I've killed deer with my '70 Winchester M94 from powder-burn distance to a lazered 236 yards. No other changes than a Williams FP receiver sight and a Skinner post front sight. The rifle absolutely loves 3031/170 Hornady FP, shoots them inordinately close together at 2127 fps.

I have to chuckle a little about how weak the .30-30 is stated to be, but my latest AR build is in a powerhouse round. .300 Ham'r, a modern equivalent to....you guessed it right....the .30-30!

I don't know how many deer it's killed, but it's a bunch. Some Black bear and pigs will also testify....no, they can't. They ded too.

I look at it as a damn good round for close in stuff, there's better for longer distance, and I like the rifles it typically comes in. If'n the Ham'r works like they say, I'll like it, too.

Hahaha. Truth. Bingo

Yes.

A picture of the gentleman writing this.

I am seriously thinking about shooting a couple does with a 30-30.


Or a huge buck.

Great picture and rifle.

It will but you won't dumb fuqk....

This^. Deer have become hardened over time. Mostly due to the internet. .338 Lapua at minimum, even better, 6.5 creedmoor just to be sure.

Yuge.
#triggertheboomers.

If a pointed stick can kill a deer anything can

You won't wanna be there for it.


#ragekilling

Yuge bro, yuge.

Bet the buck on the right died from laughter if that guy was wearing the same outfit.

Love the matching slip on retard shoes they’re both wearing.

Hornady used to make Leverevolution in 165 gr.

#bumperdumperassasin

You’d seriously be better off beating it to death with buttstock.
#slowpitchunderhandsoftballstyle

Leverevolution is 160 grain.

Thats a legitimate question....can a 30-30 buttstock beat someone to death?...yes, just not as quick as a 338 Lapua buttstock beating.

Can you own lever actions in NY? LMAO

I keep an axe and some hammers on every pickup.



Or just run it over with the pickup.



A 30-30 will usually wound a deer hard enough that a guy can finish it off by hand.

You ruined an informative thread mister,,, you're going back on IGNORE >> AGAIN >> CONGRATS i won't see another word of yours tonight !!!!

SMART-MOUTH

Karamojo Bell used a .30-30 on deer. But he shot them quartering from behind, so............

I have, Sam. The 170 gr leaves better blood trails if hit in the ribs.
They often go down right there pretty often when hit through the shoulders but i hate messing up those lollipops.

Oven cooked shoulder roasts are delish and cooked right, the meat falls off the bone.

I have some of the Hornady lever rev stuff but havent used it yet.

You sound like my uncle tubby.

Lake City Flat Green Tip. Tracer every 3rd round.

Well, a 30-30 ain’t no 303 Savage, but it’ll do til you get a real rifle.

That is soooooo Fugkin hawt.

Bro, you’ve never seen me swing a 336 like a club.
Obviously.

I wanted a Winchester 94, 30-30 as a kid. Folks didn't have funds for another rifle. I ended up with a 95 mauser in 7 x 57, I worked for. Finally got my uncles 30WCF a few years ago.

M 94 and tender dinner

I hated lever actions. Never owned one til a few years ago I bought a 336 and a 39 with straight stocks. Shot them both a few times and sold them a few weeks later.
Doubt I’ll ever own another.

Fugging city people.

Yippee, I finally made a list. Hoo rah.

Hahaha!

You were already on a bunch of em....

I love my Marlin 357 lever.

If you can't kill a deer with a 30-30, you don't know how to hunt.

Shooting your first deer with a 30-30 should be a requirement for getting any subsequent deer tags.

Will a 30-06 kill an animal at 300 yards?

It's the same thing an animal gets at 100 yards from a 30-30.

I’d take a 30rd mag over nostalgia any day.

You would need it too...dead eye Dick!

My Father in law was a terrific hunter, he shot all kinds of game with his M94 30-30, lots of Elk, many Deer and Bears.
We were hunting (40 years ago) and there was a buck, I use his rifle just to say I shot a Deer with it...I go to shoot, I miss. A short time later I get another chance at another buck, I miss LOL...the old man grabs the rifle and says...gimme that fugging thing, and shoots the buck dead LOL.
I still snicker when I think of it, we came home with 3 bucks that day, I missed 2 LOL.

Will a 30/30 kill a deer? Of course! TracksWapiti uses his 30/30 for polar bears. But only in thick woods at bow ranges.

Yes of course it will kill deer. Anything that can punch a hole in both lungs will kill a deer including a .22. That said I have never been really impressed by the performance on deer with a 30-30. it makes a hole and with proper shot placement they die. Never had a deer drop on the spot with a 30-30. And most ran further and bled less after being shot through the vitals than any other deer cartridge I have ever used.

Truth is, 30 -30 and 270 are probably in the top 3 for Polar Bear kills.

I was worrying on my 336 A, but it's been Ackley Improved so I believe it'll be OK with the revolution projectiles I have. Got 200 of them years ago and 2 lbs of AA2230. Gonna get around to puttin' them together one day.....

Damn I'm too busy.

deer ?

I'm gonna shoot a 60" bull moose with mine ...

In pistol format & Imp'd yo...

Got 120 rounds that need fireforming this wknd

...

OK. Good stuff. Just as long as you don't use a 270.

That's odd. I've found it works about the same as anything. Shot high shoulder/spine/head they drop right there. Shot through the lungs they generally run 20-60 yards, whether .30-30, .35 Rem., .223, 243, 6.5 Creed, 7x57, .308 or 30-06.

Well, there is that.

Better a person has a 95 eh Bob?

I would have hated to have been their quartermaster. 30-30, 30-40, 7x57, and who knows what other cartridges they used.

No doubt. But there is a soft spot in my heart for 1894’s too

Here’s a very recent acquisition and a take down model too!!!



.30 WCF

Geeze...that's nice.

gregintenn;
Good evening to you sir, I trust the week behaved for you and you're well.

Your statement triggered a couple memories for me so hopefully it's okay if I share them.

My late father in law said he shot a hole in the farm house roof with a .303 Savage which his father had brought with him from Minnesota when he'd moved up to Manitoba. Seymour related to me he saw it behind the entrance door, racked the lever, pulled the trigger and then it was really loud after that. Both the boom and his mother giving his father what for because he'd left it loaded where the boys could get at it maybe?

In a Gun Digest back in the day, Sam Fadala had an article on the .30-30 and if memory serves opined that likely the availability of 190gr bullets made some folks believe - possibly with reason - that the .303 Savage was better for say moose sized animals. He found some factory .303 Savage 190's for the article, pulled the bullets and loaded them in the .30-30 he had.

For the life of me I can't recall any firm conclusions, but perhaps there were some? Not sure, sorry.

Thanks for twigging the memories, all the best and good hunting.

Dwayne

PS Afterthought.

We've entirely consumed 2 bucks, one local mulie and a Columbia Blacktail that were shot with a .30-30. I'd think that indicated they were dead then, no?

Hahaha!

Dominion produced 303 Savage rounds.


A Canadian as ketchup chips and naming your son Gordon.

Jim;
Good evening to you my cyber friend, I trust you and your fine family are well.

Hey now though, you say that like it's a bad thing?!?

Come to think of it though Jim, we do have an overabundance of Gordons don't we......



Our eldest loves ketchup chips so that's what I buy for hunting season snacks as she's my usual partner.

I must confess I'm an "all dressed" chips fan more so, but anything for the kids, right?

All the best to you all and good hunting Jim.

Dwayne

Thanks for finding the humor Dwayne.


I like all dressed chips very much.

I do like potato chips dipped in ketchup. Don't like bagged ketchup chips.

Better stick to chipsndip ol Mike and just watch hunting video reruns...

Jim;
Thanks for the reply.

I am cognizant that the Canadian "sense of humour" can be fairly dense at times, but luckily I did catch it this time so that's a plus for both sides of the medicine line!

We used to travel fairly regularly into the western states and other than some brands of chocolate bars and chips being different, there wasn't much difference in food.

Then we ended up down in Denver on a seminar and I saw folks having biscuits and gravy for breakfast for the first time. Gotta admit that threw me a tad Jim and frankly none of my names is Gordon either, you know?

We dip fries in ketchup but not chips usually, but that might be a BC thing too? Not sure.

We out west have what my family back in Saskabush call a "BC drawl" but to me mostly it's that we just talk slower than they do. It's funny but we do notice it so they must notice we sound a bit different too.

Then again Jim, nobody who has ever known me for more than a wee bit has ever thought I was not "a bit different"... there's that.

Thanks for the chuckle and the back and forth Jim.

I'm hoping we see some photos of your kids with some freezer fillers if that's in the works too.

Best to you all.

Dwayne

PS;
If the world ever gets right again Jim, there's a Canadian Tire brand of chips called "Franks"

They have a decent All Dressed, but I was semi-addicted to their Turkey Stuffing chips for awhile...

Thanks Dwayne.

My daughter is taking her hunting ED class.

My middle boy can hunt this year under my supervision.


Looking forward to it.

Hahaha. Well said.

Awe shucks...

Don't start with me mister

I need a good recipe for a 45-90 with a 405 lead bullet.


I have a bull with a broken leg that needs shot.

Another proud Southern California dumb.,

You're on report mister...

No need a 30-40

I got a buddy who loads 45-90 I'll see him Tuesdee he never comes into work on Mondee >see what he says.

Corelockinit

I think Ol Mike got what he was wanting from this thread.

Lol…that’s a good story and one that is as rare as woodpecker lips. Rarely does a hunter or fisherman mention their misses….😁

Just looked,, you posted eight 'funnies' in this thread ,

I love my 30/30. Bought it in '78 while stationed at Ft. Lewis! Thankfully, I have never missed with it (yet) , but I have had to pass on many shots out of my reach with iron sights!

In a situation where your deer are shot at 150 yards or less, you really give up nothing with a 30-30. Kills deer as well as anything in those perameters.

Ron

LOL! I bet mama was pretty hot about the hole in the roof!

I was just trying to make a joke about the 303 Savage. They are basically the same as the 30-30. So much so that I use reloading data interchangeably between the two for most applications. Arthur Savage was quite the salesman, however, and touted the 303 vastly superior by way of offering it with a heavier, 190 grain projectile. Although it worked to some degree, his 1895 and 1899 Savage rifles never gained the following of the ever popular 94 Winchester.

Mr. Savage’s advertisements touting folks killing dangerous game such as lions and tigers with his 22 High Power were really over the top. He was an interesting man, although we really don’t know all that much about him.

No need give Shrapnel a call.

Nope. Its never happened. No reason for it to start now.

Yep...its a bugger when they die ear tag side up!

That heifer looks bred.

No, just bloated. Took them 3 days to find it. Should have used a .22.

He does look satisfied

Nice camo shirt. Stealthy mofo.

A texan talking polar bears? The end is near.

Bet Polar Bears in Texas are bigger.

A 30/30 will kill a deer any week day, twice on Saturday and Sunday.

Not since 1966 - a doe. Nor anything else with the '94, by me, since. A couple brothers used it on deer for a few years in Washington. Worked for them on several deer. I still use it as my carry rifle up here for walk-about. Them bear's just giggle and wander off, shaking their heads.

If I get the chance, I'll use it on a moose or caribou.



Ya gotta use a Marlin for moose(my first - 1970) and black bear (several since). I really liked that rifle, but yes - a boating incident really did claim it. It sleeps with the fishes on the bottom of the Tanana River, along with the Nylon 66 - another really good rifle that I miss.

Ohhhhhh

Yup. Killed WT, Axis, and Javelina with .30-30 160 gr Leverevolution. Most just drop after a few steps.