What a bunch of dickheads proving right out in the open that they're POS. And listen to all of the trainees laughing along enjoying these Dorks speeches.
Years ago I read that something like 75% of applicants for cop jobs shouldn't be cops. That's probably pretty accurate, it seems like 1 per 4 or 5 treat citizens with respect.
What a bunch of dickheads proving right out in the open that they're POS. And listen to all of the trainees laughing along enjoying these Dorks speeches.
Years ago I read that something like 75% of applicants for cop jobs shouldn't be cops. That's probably pretty accurate, it seems like 1 per 4 or 5 treat citizens with respect.
YouTube is filled with videos of cops violating citizens 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendment Rights. Some of these channels refer to themselves as Auditors or First Amendment Auditors.
It’s truly amazing how LEO don’t know the law or the Constitution.
Millions of dollars are being paid out by cities and States due to lawsuits filed against corrupt and ignorant cops.
What a bunch of dickheads proving right out in the open that they're POS. And listen to all of the trainees laughing along enjoying these Dorks speeches.
Years ago I read that something like 75% of applicants for cop jobs shouldn't be cops. That's probably pretty accurate, it seems like 1 per 4 or 5 treat citizens with respect.
YouTube is filled with videos of cops violating citizens 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendment Rights. Some of these channels refer to themselves as Auditors or First Amendment Auditors.
It’s truly amazing how LEO don’t know the law or the Constitution.
Millions of dollars are being paid out by cities and States due to lawsuits filed against corrupt and ignorant cops.
Qualified Immunity needs to be abolished.
LE don't need to know the law or Constitutional because they are frequently exempt from laws(either by statute or lack of enforcement), they have priveleges that exceed rights because of that, they are rarely held accountable for criminal acts, and most of the time the lawsuit tab for rights violations get saddled on to tax payers via qualified immunity.
What a bunch of dickheads proving right out in the open that they're POS. And listen to all of the trainees laughing along enjoying these Dorks speeches.
Years ago I read that something like 75% of applicants for cop jobs shouldn't be cops. That's probably pretty accurate, it seems like 1 per 4 or 5 treat citizens with respect.
As one of the TCL comments mentioned, out of thousands upon thousands of attendees no one complained so the trainers are preaching to the choir.
and yet, more and more, there seems to be a need for some agency or organization to counteract the tsunami of crime in America. Other than just declaring open season on criminals and bringing back vigilante justice, what alternative to cops would suit y'all?
and yet, more and more, there seems to be a need for some agency or organization to counteract the tsunami of crime in America. Other than just declaring open season on criminals and bringing back vigilante justice, what alternative to cops would suit y'all?
The cops in the video are in training to commit crimes so that isn't an alternative that will counteract the tsunami of crime in America.
and yet, more and more, there seems to be a need for some agency or organization to counteract the tsunami of crime in America. Other than just declaring open season on criminals and bringing back vigilante justice, what alternative to cops would suit y'all?
The cops in the video are in training to commit crimes so that isn't an alternative that will counteract the tsunami of crime in America.
Right, only an idiot would even consider giving LEO free rein to break the law and violate the constitution in order to reduce crime.
didn't watch it, but that still begs the question, as a person seemingly heavily invested in the issue, what would be YOUR alternative?
Terminating all the cops in attendance that approved of the training in the video you didn't watch and barring them from ever working in le again would be one way of reducing a segment of the tsunami of crime you indicated concern about.
The cops of today are no better or no worse than they were for the past 100+ years.
The one thing that has exposed them for the tyrants that they are is the camera and the smart phone.
Grab your cell phone and start filming an officer and watch them lose their schit, demand ID and threaten you with arrest if you refuse to turn off the camera and hand over ID.
The cops of today are no better or no worse than they were for the past 100+ years.
The one thing that has exposed them for the tyrants that they are is the camera and the smart phone.
Grab your cell phone and start filming an officer and watch them lose their schit, demand ID and threaten you with arrest if you refuse to turn off the camera and hand over ID.
Bingo. Before video became widely available, le and backers typically claimed any negative descriptions of events never occurred.
Law of unintended consequences- - - -lower the hiring and training standards until just about any GED holder can pin on a badge and strap on a gun, and it isn't surprising that they are too ignorant to understand the laws they're supposed to be enforcing. Then grant them immunity to being held responsible for their actions- - - - -soundds like a perfect storm of bad results to me!
Victims of violent crime should be able to shoot their attackers- - - -repeatedly- - - -without repercussions- - - -and not have to worry about recidivism.
Law of unintended consequences- - - -lower the hiring and training standards until just about any GED holder can pin on a badge and strap on a gun, and it isn't surprising that they are too ignorant to understand the laws they're supposed to be enforcing. Then grant them immunity to being held responsible for their actions- - - - -soundds like a perfect storm of bad results to me!
Victims of violent crime should be able to shoot their attackers- - - -repeatedly- - - -without repercussions- - - -and not have to worry about recidivism.
Seen plenty of claims hiring and training standards were higher back in the 1960's and there were things like this happening.
""When the city sets aside one and a half million dollars for extra crime fighting and half of it's gone in the first six weeks of the year, and it goes to a handful of people who are working full time plus 120 hours of overtime, some of them with extra jobs, don't tell me the system's not broken," Bevin said. "It's a joke.""
That's not training, but more a case of expensive entertainment for attendants and a money making scheme for those on the stage. The fact that it's a private deal as opposed to an event sponsored by sanctioned public funding is a strong give away.
Over my several years, I've seen some poor examples exhibited by badge happy local yokels (i.e County sheriffs and small-town police). Most have to move on in short order.
Our Oregon State Police, however, appear to be a well vetted, knowledgeable, and professional group.
and yet, more and more, there seems to be a need for some agency or organization to counteract the tsunami of crime in America. Other than just declaring open season on criminals and bringing back vigilante justice, what alternative to cops would suit y'all?
We wouldn't need so many cops if the States and the Federal Government did their jobs. That means long periods of incarceration and more over sight by the courts of folks who have been FAIRLY convicted of crimes.
There is too much reliance on the cops while the politicians are NOT doing their jobs. I do think that because of some of the stress and dealing with $hithead people day after day the cops forget who they are working for and who they are trying to serve. It's NOT just a cop issue. It's a leftist government issue not doing their job and then blaming the cops. We can start by not electing democRATs then we can move on to wishy washy republicans.
That's not training, but more a case of expensive entertainment for attendants and a money making scheme for those on the stage. The fact that it's a private deal as opposed to an event sponsored by sanctioned public funding is a strong give away.
Over my several years, I've seen some poor examples exhibited by badge happy local yokels (i.e County sheriffs and small-town police). Most have to move on in short order.
Our Oregon State Police, however, appear to be a well vetted, knowledgeable, and professional group.
The events are paid for by tax dollars so that means the agencies sending employees there approve of the instruction.
Oregon is on the list of where they have had their classes.
and yet, more and more, there seems to be a need for some agency or organization to counteract the tsunami of crime in America. Other than just declaring open season on criminals and bringing back vigilante justice, what alternative to cops would suit y'all?
We wouldn't need so many cops if the States and the Federal Government did their jobs. That means long periods of incarceration and more over sight by the courts of folks who have been FAIRLY convicted of crimes.
There is too much reliance on the cops while the politicians are NOT doing their jobs. I do think that because of some of the stress and dealing with $hithead people day after day the cops forget who they are working for and who they are trying to serve. It's NOT just a cop issue. It's a leftist government issue not doing their job and then blaming the cops. We can start by not electing democRATs then we can move on to wishy washy republicans.
kwg
Making something a crime where there is no victim is a great source of power and money for numerous occupational groups.
"Martin, 48, was busted last February after investigators tailed him to the “Oaks Extravaganza” gun show in Philadelphia, where they watched him buy assault weapons, ammunition and “ghost gun” parts and bring them into New York.
Days later, six assault weapons, multiple gun parts and more ammo turned up when Nassau County investigators executed a search warrant at Martin’s home in Baldwin, Long Island, records show."
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.
Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also included.
With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?
I don’t.
But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.
and yet, more and more, there seems to be a need for some agency or organization to counteract the tsunami of crime in America. Other than just declaring open season on criminals and bringing back vigilante justice, what alternative to cops would suit y'all?
Second step first: End qualified immunity. Make it clear to them that they will end up in jail if they break the constitution and it's given rights, and will pay out of pocket.
First step: Get rid of the commercialized 'schools' that train like the one above. Employ and empower nationally certified schools that must be looked at and condoned (approved)by the individual states. Insure that the curriculum (at the least) include a minimum of 4 months worth of constitutional training. One year minimum on all combined training. Make the prospective officer pay for his or her own training, just as all of us who went to college did.
Third step: Disband Iinternal Affairs from being only in-house groups to include an equal numbers of the public to maintain a First Amendment right of "oversight" to insure things getting "swept under the rug" currently, no longer do.
Last thing: Police employees found guilty of crimes and then getting off the hook for them (at tax payer expense) should be automatically expelled for being employed as an officer for ever. (see second step first above.)
People that are scared of not having the current system in place either do not know what their unalienable rights are, or are willing to give them up to the "other military complex," the one that is responsible for extortion of money (with jail time) for victimless crimes, ending in financial ruin of their innocent victims, and thus filling the coffers of their city, county, or state. They are all too willing to do this because their incentive of pay raises and extra stipends through awards given, and having QI, keeps feeding their MO. The sad part is that these officers trained by outfits like the one posted, will not go away anytime soon, as long as "free men" do nothing to recognize the problem exists, and then to help to fix that problem. Few of the politicians in power at any level, be it city, county, state, or national, give a rip for fixing this problem. Rather, many are very willing to maintain their power over the people, at the expense of those of us who pay their salaries, allowing them to reap the benefits dear to their hearts... power and money. In that order.
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.
Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also included.
With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?
I don’t.
But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.
I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.
I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.
and yet, more and more, there seems to be a need for some agency or organization to counteract the tsunami of crime in America. Other than just declaring open season on criminals and bringing back vigilante justice, what alternative to cops would suit y'all?
We wouldn't need so many cops if the States and the Federal Government did their jobs. That means long periods of incarceration and more over sight by the courts of folks who have been FAIRLY convicted of crimes.
There is too much reliance on the cops while the politicians are NOT doing their jobs. I do think that because of some of the stress and dealing with $hithead people day after day the cops forget who they are working for and who they are trying to serve. It's NOT just a cop issue. It's a leftist government issue not doing their job and then blaming the cops. We can start by not electing democRATs then we can move on to wishy washy republicans.
And it isn't new. Deputy Burgess, the child raping one, got his sentence suspended by a sympathetic judge who worried about him being harned in prison.
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.
Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also included.
With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?
I don’t.
But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.
I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.
I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.
Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?
When did any cops get wrongfully convicted prior to bodycams?
No idea.
How many unjustified complaints did they get?
I’m saying it keeps both sides honest now.
Make no mistake, it’s far better for citizens than cops.
How many incidents are there where le claim complaints about their behavior are not justified, but the written/spoken version of events from the le differs wildly from what gets recorded on video? How many cops still suffer no criminal penalties(or have to pay a penny on the civil end) for crimes they commit recorded on camera?
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.
Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also included.
With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?
I don’t.
But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.
I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.
I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.
Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?
Got to see le complaining about repealing anti 2A laws and calling for more laws(with exemptions for their clique) long before I ever logged on to the internet.
Not all cops are like that, but they are viewed as woke pussies if they don't go along with the majority as you pointed out.
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.
Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also included.
With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?
I don’t.
But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.
I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.
I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.
Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?
Got to see le complaining about repealing anti 2A laws and calling for more laws(with exemptions for their clique) long before I ever logged on to the internet.
Not all cops are like that, but they are viewed as woke pussies if they don't go along with the majority as you pointed out.
Plenty of shît cops around, no doubt. But you’re here in a crusade, I’m just wondering if it’s that bad in your area you see it day to day or if your just getting all St Floydy over stuff you see on the ‘net. Like the sjw guy you posted up top.
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.
Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also includIed.
With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?
I don’t.
But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.
I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.
I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.
Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?
Got to see le complaining about repealing anti 2A laws and calling for more laws(with exemptions for their clique) long before I ever logged on to the internet.
Not all cops are like that, but they are viewed as woke pussies if they don't go along with the majority as you pointed out.
Plenty of shît cops around, no doubt. But you’re here in a crusade, I’m just wondering if it’s that bad in your area you see it day to day or if your just getting all St Floydy over stuff you see on the ‘net. Like the sjw guy you posted up top.
I doubt George Floyd had any interest in the 2A(or any other rights) and I assume you really don't think so either, but want to paint anyone that does support rights as being a career criminal by linking them to Floyd.
I would refer to John Bryan as a 2A(and other rights) supporter. I guess with your being upset about opposing police violating rights, someone like John Bryan is a social justice warrior.
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.
Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also included.
With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?
I don’t.
But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.
I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.
I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.
Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?
Got to see le complaining about repealing anti 2A laws and calling for more laws(with exemptions for their clique) long before I ever logged on to the internet.
Not all cops are like that, but they are viewed as woke pussies if they don't go along with the majority as you pointed out.
Plenty of shît cops around, no doubt. But you’re here in a crusade, I’m just wondering if it’s that bad in your area you see it day to day or if your just getting all St Floydy over stuff you see on the ‘net. Like the sjw guy you posted up top.
Here's the social justice warrior John Bryan interviewing another social justice warrior name Chris Weiss. His client's family had one of those evil cameras installed in their home.
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.
Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also included.
With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?
I don’t.
But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.
I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.
I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.
Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?
Got to see le complaining about repealing anti 2A laws and calling for more laws(with exemptions for their clique) long before I ever logged on to the internet.
Not all cops are like that, but they are viewed as woke pussies if they don't go along with the majority as you pointed out.
Plenty of shît cops around, no doubt. But you’re here in a crusade, I’m just wondering if it’s that bad in your area you see it day to day or if your just getting all St Floydy over stuff you see on the ‘net. Like the sjw guy you posted up top.
Here's the social justice warrior John Bryan interviewing another social justice warrior name Chris Weiss. His client's family had one of those evil cameras installed in their home.
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.
Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also includIed.
With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?
I don’t.
But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.
I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.
I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.
Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?
Got to see le complaining about repealing anti 2A laws and calling for more laws(with exemptions for their clique) long before I ever logged on to the internet.
Not all cops are like that, but they are viewed as woke pussies if they don't go along with the majority as you pointed out.
Plenty of shît cops around, no doubt. But you’re here in a crusade, I’m just wondering if it’s that bad in your area you see it day to day or if your just getting all St Floydy over stuff you see on the ‘net. Like the sjw guy you posted up top.
I doubt George Floyd had any interest in the 2A(or any other rights) and I assume you really don't think so either, but want to paint anyone that does support rights as being a career criminal by linking them to Floyd.
I would refer to John Bryan as a 2A(and other rights) supporter. I guess with your being upset about opposing police violating rights, someone like John Bryan is a social justice warrior.
I’m not upset about anything. Just trying to figure you out. You can misrepresent me or my position(s) all you like. But you’ll show your ass soon enough.
You’re right though, I should not refer to him as a warrior. That’s toxic masculinity.
and yet, more and more, there seems to be a need for some agency or organization to counteract the tsunami of crime in America. Other than just declaring open season on criminals and bringing back vigilante justice, what alternative to cops would suit y'all?
Second step first: End qualified immunity. Make it clear to them that they will end up in jail if they break the constitution and it's given rights, and will pay out of pocket.
First step: Get rid of the commercialized 'schools' that train like the one above. Employ and empower nationally certified schools that must be looked at and condoned (approved)by the individual states. Insure that the curriculum (at the least) include a minimum of 4 months worth of constitutional training. One year minimum on all combined training. Make the prospective officer pay for his or her own training, just as all of us who went to college did.
Third step: Disband Iinternal Affairs from being only in-house groups to include an equal numbers of the public to maintain a First Amendment right of "oversight" to insure things getting "swept under the rug" currently, no longer do.
Last thing: Police employees found guilty of crimes and then getting off the hook for them (at tax payer expense) should be automatically expelled for being employed as an officer for ever. (see second step first above.)
People that are scared of not having the current system in place either do not know what their unalienable rights are, or are willing to give them up to the "other military complex," the one that is responsible for extortion of money (with jail time) for victimless crimes, ending in financial ruin of their innocent victims, and thus filling the coffers of their city, county, or state. They are all too willing to do this because their incentive of pay raises and extra stipends through awards given, and having QI, keeps feeding their MO. The sad part is that these officers trained by outfits like the one posted, will not go away anytime soon, as long as "free men" do nothing to recognize the problem exists, and then to help to fix that problem. Few of the politicians in power at any level, be it city, county, state, or national, give a rip for fixing this problem. Rather, many are very willing to maintain their power over the people, at the expense of those of us who pay their salaries, allowing them to reap the benefits dear to their hearts... power and money. In that order.
I would like to read and learn from - right here - some intelligent discussion/critique of bearhuntr's post - discussion and critique by well-experienced/properly trained/knowledgeable LEOs. Why is such not happening?
Here's the social justice warrior John Bryan interviewing another social justice warrior name Chris Weiss. His client's family had one of those evil cameras installed in their home.
The evil camera that the officers in the video didn't know existed until after they has been deposed. The officers demanded cell phone video be erased, but the pesky citizens pulled a fast one on them with a hidden camera.
What question did you ask that you didn't like my answer to? That LE are frequently anti 2A?
For the spelling error you’ll need to click on your own link.
It’s not that I “didn’t like” your answer it’s that you didn’t give one.
Are you seeing these police abuses day to day in your home town/area or are seeing them on your internet feed?
Again I apologize for referring to your lawyer as a social justice warrior. He has said the warrior mindset is a bad thing, especially for the guys who actually step up to protect their communities from criminals.
Since LE dislike the new law and are bitching about it, does that make them Karens who are in the wrong or do they get an LE exemption on thar behavior?
For the spelling error you’ll need to click on your own link.
It’s not that I “didn’t like” your answer it’s that you didn’t give one.
Are you seeing these police abuses day to day in your home town/area or are seeing them on your internet feed?
Again I apologize for referring to your lawyer as a social justice warrior. He has said the warrior mindset is a bad thing, especially for the guys who actually step up to protect their communities from criminals.
The youtube channel is that John Bryan who spells his name John Bryan.
You asked that after you disliked my answer about seeing anti 2A police long before the internet. I do see anti 2A police on a regular basis and I assume there are plenty of anti 2A police in your area.
The assumption about your area is because I support the 2A while you would likely claim all cops/agencies in your area are pro 2A since you would say "I support the 2A, but" which also means you find most police outside of New York City to be rabidly pro 2A and police wanting LE exemptions from anti 2A laws as being proof they support the 2A.
LE have no duty to protect as seen at Uvalde and some other areas and LE frequently arrest people over rights they oppose. The warrior mentality mentioned I'm the video involves committing crimes to prevent crimes per your beliefs. Sounds weird, but just so I understand where you are coming from.
For the spelling error you’ll need to click on your own link.
It’s not that I “didn’t like” your answer it’s that you didn’t give one.
Are you seeing these police abuses day to day in your home town/area or are seeing them on your internet feed?
Again I apologize for referring to your lawyer as a social justice warrior. He has said the warrior mindset is a bad thing, especially for the guys who actually step up to protect their communities from criminals.
The youtube channel is that John Bryan who spells his name John Bryan.
You asked that after you disliked my answer about seeing anti 2A police long before the internet and I do see anti 2A police on a regular basis and I assume there are plenty of anti 2A police in your area.
The assumption about your area is because I support the 2A while you would likely claim all cops/agencies in your area are pro 2A since you would say "I support the 2A, but" which also means you find most police outside of New York City to be rabidly pro 2A and police wanting LE exemptions from anti 2A laws as being proof they support the 2A.
Warrior mentality involves committing crimes to prevent crimes per your beliefs. Sounds weird, but just so I understand where you are coming from.
I hope this is in jest or that you are getting therapy.
For the spelling error you’ll need to click on your own link.
It’s not that I “didn’t like” your answer it’s that you didn’t give one.
Are you seeing these police abuses day to day in your home town/area or are seeing them on your internet feed?
Again I apologize for referring to your lawyer as a social justice warrior. He has said the warrior mindset is a bad thing, especially for the guys who actually step up to protect their communities from criminals.
The youtube channel is that John Bryan who spells his name John Bryan.
You asked that after you disliked my answer about seeing anti 2A police long before the internet and I do see anti 2A police on a regular basis and I assume there are plenty of anti 2A police in your area.
The assumption about your area is because I support the 2A while you would likely claim all cops/agencies in your area are pro 2A since you would say "I support the 2A, but" which also means you find most police outside of New York City to be rabidly pro 2A and police wanting LE exemptions from anti 2A laws as being proof they support the 2A.
Warrior mentality involves committing crimes to prevent crimes per your beliefs. Sounds weird, but just so I understand where you are coming from.
I hope this is in jest or that you are getting therapy.
I figured the anti 2A le in your area thing would get to you. That's why I clarified about your "I support the 2A, but" position .
For the spelling error you’ll need to click on your own link.
It’s not that I “didn’t like” your answer it’s that you didn’t give one.
Are you seeing these police abuses day to day in your home town/area or are seeing them on your internet feed?
Again I apologize for referring to your lawyer as a social justice warrior. He has said the warrior mindset is a bad thing, especially for the guys who actually step up to protect their communities from criminals.
The youtube channel is that John Bryan who spells his name John Bryan.
You asked that after you disliked my answer about seeing anti 2A police long before the internet and I do see anti 2A police on a regular basis and I assume there are plenty of anti 2A police in your area.
The assumption about your area is because I support the 2A while you would likely claim all cops/agencies in your area are pro 2A since you would say "I support the 2A, but" which also means you find most police outside of New York City to be rabidly pro 2A and police wanting LE exemptions from anti 2A laws as being proof they support the 2A.
Warrior mentality involves committing crimes to prevent crimes per your beliefs. Sounds weird, but just so I understand where you are coming from.
I hope this is in jest or that you are getting therapy.
I figured the anti 2A le in your area thing woukd get to you. That's why I clarified about your "I support the 2A, but" positio .
You’re not “getting to me” I’m still just trying to get you to solidify your arguments.
Is abuse by LE so rampant in your area you assume it is nationwide? If it’s that bad in your area I really do feel bad for you and your neighbors. I hope you can find a way to fix it. You speak in your posts as though LE is some monolithic thing, even though there are hundreds if not thousands of state and municipalities nationally with their own LE forces with their own funding/training issues.
Projecting your issues onto me for just asking you to clarify your position is weak. Making up my positions though unstated by me or twisted by yourself is at best misrepresentation.
For the spelling error you’ll need to click on your own link.
It’s not that I “didn’t like” your answer it’s that you didn’t give one.
Are you seeing these police abuses day to day in your home town/area or are seeing them on your internet feed?
Again I apologize for referring to your lawyer as a social justice warrior. He has said the warrior mindset is a bad thing, especially for the guys who actually step up to protect their communities from criminals.
The youtube channel is that John Bryan who spells his name John Bryan.
You asked that after you disliked my answer about seeing anti 2A police long before the internet and I do see anti 2A police on a regular basis and I assume there are plenty of anti 2A police in your area.
The assumption about your area is because I support the 2A while you would likely claim all cops/agencies in your area are pro 2A since you would say "I support the 2A, but" which also means you find most police outside of New York City to be rabidly pro 2A and police wanting LE exemptions from anti 2A laws as being proof they support the 2A.
Warrior mentality involves committing crimes to prevent crimes per your beliefs. Sounds weird, but just so I understand where you are coming from.
I hope this is in jest or that you are getting therapy.
I figured the anti 2A le in your area thing woukd get to you. That's why I clarified about your "I support the 2A, but" positio .
You’re not “getting to me” I’m still just trying to get you to solidify your arguments.
Is abuse by LE so rampant in your area you assume it is nationwide? If it’s that bad in your area I really do feel bad for you and your neighbors. I hope you can find a way to fix it. You speak in your posts as though LE is some monolithic thing, even though there are hundreds if not thousands of state and municipalities nationally with their own LE forces with their own funding/training issues.
Projecting your issues onto me for just asking you to clarify your position is weak. Making up my positions though unstated by me or twisted by yourself is at best misrepresentation.
If notice something happen where I am at and I assume it is nationwide and that makes me wrong.
If I see things in news articles from around the Country and notice they are the same as what I have seen where I have been then that makes me wrong.
The training group that is the topic of this thread has instructors from nationwide and has provided training for agencies nationwide and it is wrong of me to notice that.
I noticed your comment of support for the le training in the video and their opposition to rights which leads me to think you oppose rights which makes me wrong.
For the spelling error you’ll need to click on your own link.
It’s not that I “didn’t like” your answer it’s that you didn’t give one.
Are you seeing these police abuses day to day in your home town/area or are seeing them on your internet feed?
Again I apologize for referring to your lawyer as a social justice warrior. He has said the warrior mindset is a bad thing, especially for the guys who actually step up to protect their communities from criminals.
The youtube channel is that John Bryan who spells his name John Bryan.
You asked that after you disliked my answer about seeing anti 2A police long before the internet and I do see anti 2A police on a regular basis and I assume there are plenty of anti 2A police in your area.
The assumption about your area is because I support the 2A while you would likely claim all cops/agencies in your area are pro 2A since you would say "I support the 2A, but" which also means you find most police outside of New York City to be rabidly pro 2A and police wanting LE exemptions from anti 2A laws as being proof they support the 2A.
Warrior mentality involves committing crimes to prevent crimes per your beliefs. Sounds weird, but just so I understand where you are coming from.
I hope this is in jest or that you are getting therapy.
Happy Camper don't need no therapy,
If he needs a therapist he'll pray for one and it will be delivered to the nearest intersection.......you know like the socket set.
Or it'll be dropped on his head like the I-beam.........
For the spelling error you’ll need to click on your own link.
It’s not that I “didn’t like” your answer it’s that you didn’t give one.
Are you seeing these police abuses day to day in your home town/area or are seeing them on your internet feed?
Again I apologize for referring to your lawyer as a social justice warrior. He has said the warrior mindset is a bad thing, especially for the guys who actually step up to protect their communities from criminals.
The youtube channel is that John Bryan who spells his name John Bryan.
You asked that after you disliked my answer about seeing anti 2A police long before the internet and I do see anti 2A police on a regular basis and I assume there are plenty of anti 2A police in your area.
The assumption about your area is because I support the 2A while you would likely claim all cops/agencies in your area are pro 2A since you would say "I support the 2A, but" which also means you find most police outside of New York City to be rabidly pro 2A and police wanting LE exemptions from anti 2A laws as being proof they support the 2A.
Warrior mentality involves committing crimes to prevent crimes per your beliefs. Sounds weird, but just so I understand where you are coming from.
I hope this is in jest or that you are getting therapy.
I figured the anti 2A le in your area thing woukd get to you. That's why I clarified about your "I support the 2A, but" positio .
You’re not “getting to me” I’m still just trying to get you to solidify your arguments.
Is abuse by LE so rampant in your area you assume it is nationwide? If it’s that bad in your area I really do feel bad for you and your neighbors. I hope you can find a way to fix it. You speak in your posts as though LE is some monolithic thing, even though there are hundreds if not thousands of state and municipalities nationally with their own LE forces with their own funding/training issues.
Projecting your issues onto me for just asking you to clarify your position is weak. Making up my positions though unstated by me or twisted by yourself is at best misrepresentation.
If notice something happe where I am at and I assume it is nationwide and that makes me wrong.
If I see things in news articles from around the Country and notice they are the same as what I have seen where I have been then that makes me wrong.
The training group that is the topic of this thread has instructors from nationwide and has provided training for agencies nationwide and it is wrong of me to notice that.
I noticed your comment of support for the le training in the video and their opposition to rights which leads me to think you oppose rights which makes me wrong.
Does that cover everything?
Where did I support the training in the video you posted?
You’re a victim now? Can’t say I didn’t see that coming.
For the spelling error you’ll need to click on your own link.
It’s not that I “didn’t like” your answer it’s that you didn’t give one.
Are you seeing these police abuses day to day in your home town/area or are seeing them on your internet feed?
Again I apologize for referring to your lawyer as a social justice warrior. He has said the warrior mindset is a bad thing, especially for the guys who actually step up to protect their communities from criminals.
The youtube channel is that John Bryan who spells his name John Bryan.
You asked that after you disliked my answer about seeing anti 2A police long before the internet and I do see anti 2A police on a regular basis and I assume there are plenty of anti 2A police in your area.
The assumption about your area is because I support the 2A while you would likely claim all cops/agencies in your area are pro 2A since you would say "I support the 2A, but" which also means you find most police outside of New York City to be rabidly pro 2A and police wanting LE exemptions from anti 2A laws as being proof they support the 2A.
Warrior mentality involves committing crimes to prevent crimes per your beliefs. Sounds weird, but just so I understand where you are coming from.
I hope this is in jest or that you are getting therapy.
I figured the anti 2A le in your area thing woukd get to you. That's why I clarified about your "I support the 2A, but" positio .
You’re not “getting to me” I’m still just trying to get you to solidify your arguments.
Is abuse by LE so rampant in your area you assume it is nationwide? If it’s that bad in your area I really do feel bad for you and your neighbors. I hope you can find a way to fix it. You speak in your posts as though LE is some monolithic thing, even though there are hundreds if not thousands of state and municipalities nationally with their own LE forces with their own funding/training issues.
Projecting your issues onto me for just asking you to clarify your position is weak. Making up my positions though unstated by me or twisted by yourself is at best misrepresentation.
If notice something happe where I am at and I assume it is nationwide and that makes me wrong.
If I see things in news articles from around the Country and notice they are the same as what I have seen where I have been then that makes me wrong.
The training group that is the topic of this thread has instructors from nationwide and has provided training for agencies nationwide and it is wrong of me to notice that.
I noticed your comment of support for the le training in the video and their opposition to rights which leads me to think you oppose rights which makes me wrong.
Does that cover everything?
Where did I support the training in the video you posted?
You’re a victim now? Can’t say I didn’t see that coming.
According to you, le that aren't on board with the ones in the video are "woke, pussies". So are you saying you support cops who are "woke, pussies"?
I missed where I claimed to be a victim. What did I misunderstand about the questioning on whether I observed police opposing the 2A locally or if it was reading/watching news about anti 2A online?
There's not a bigger crybaby on this forum than you.
Don't sell yourself short.
Nice way to try to divert attention away from you being whiny. Didn't work. You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Have you ever taken any action to make the situation you protest better, our are you just a miserable bag of gas?
There's not a bigger crybaby on this forum than you.
Don't sell yourself short.
Nice way to try to divert attention away from you being whiny. Didn't work. You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Have you ever taken any action to make the situation you protest better, our are you just a miserable bag of gas?
None of those are my sites so not trying to divert attention to me or away from me.
I will apologize since i shouldn't have inferred you were a crybaby over your being upset about the negative review of the training and the cops who have received it. The reviews portraying the training and the officers who received it as anything other than a positive struck you deep and caused you to lash out in an emotional outburst that you couldn't control.
There is nothing preventing you from praising the training, or the officers who have received it, now or in the future when they make the news for carrying out the training they received.
There's not a bigger crybaby on this forum than you.
Don't sell yourself short.
Nice way to try to divert attention away from you being whiny. Didn't work. You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Have you ever taken any action to make the situation you protest better, our are you just a miserable bag of gas?
None of those are my sites so not trying to divert attention to me or away from me.
I will apologize since i shouldn't have inferred you were a crybaby over your being upset about the negative review of the training and the cops who have received it. The reviews portraying the training and the officers who received it as anything other than a positive struck you deep and caused you to lash out in an emotional outburst that you couldn't control.
There is nothing preventing you from praising the training, or the officers who have received it, now or in the future when they make the news for carrying out the training they received.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
There's not a bigger crybaby on this forum than you.
Don't sell yourself short.
Nice way to try to divert attention away from you being whiny. Didn't work. You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Have you ever taken any action to make the situation you protest better, our are you just a miserable bag of gas?
None of those are my sites so not trying to divert attention to me or away from me.
I will apologize since i shouldn't have inferred you were a crybaby over your being upset about the negative review of the training and the cops who have received it. The reviews portraying the training and the officers who received it as anything other than a positive struck you deep and caused you to lash out in an emotional outburst that you couldn't control.
There is nothing preventing you from praising the training, or the officers who have received it, now or in the future when they make the news for carrying out the training they received.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Nope, that's just your emotional side coming out due to being upset that the training and the cops connected to it weren't lauded.
There's not a bigger crybaby on this forum than you.
Don't sell yourself short.
Nice way to try to divert attention away from you being whiny. Didn't work. You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Have you ever taken any action to make the situation you protest better, our are you just a miserable bag of gas?
None of those are my sites so not trying to divert attention to me or away from me.
I will apologize since i shouldn't have inferred you were a crybaby over your being upset about the negative review of the training and the cops who have received it. The reviews portraying the training and the officers who received it as anything other than a positive struck you deep and caused you to lash out in an emotional outburst that you couldn't control.
There is nothing preventing you from praising the training, or the officers who have received it, now or in the future when they make the news for carrying out the training they received.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Nope, that's just your emotional side coming out due to being upset that the training and the cops connected to it weren't lauded.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
There's not a bigger crybaby on this forum than you.
Don't sell yourself short.
Nice way to try to divert attention away from you being whiny. Didn't work. You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Have you ever taken any action to make the situation you protest better, our are you just a miserable bag of gas?
None of those are my sites so not trying to divert attention to me or away from me.
I will apologize since i shouldn't have inferred you were a crybaby over your being upset about the negative review of the training and the cops who have received it. The reviews portraying the training and the officers who received it as anything other than a positive struck you deep and caused you to lash out in an emotional outburst that you couldn't control.
There is nothing preventing you from praising the training, or the officers who have received it, now or in the future when they make the news for carrying out the training they received.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Nope, that's just your emotional side coming out due to being upset that the training and the cops connected to it weren't lauded.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
I would estimate 95% of my posts in threads of this nature are responding to personal attacks.
What is it about video footage of le doing wrong that makes you want to call people names?
Nope, that's just your emotional side coming out due to being upset that the training and the cops connected to it weren't lauded.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.[/quote]
Happy Camper is crazy as a schithouse rat.
His desperation to be validated is so easy to see, he needs validation, when he doesn't get it he wigs out just like he's doing now.
I'll have to get ahold of rene50 to see if he's got that cops # still.
Nope, that's just your emotional side coming out due to being upset that the training and the cops connected to it weren't lauded.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Happy Camper is crazy as a schithouse rat.
His desperation to be validated is so easy to see, he needs validation, when he doesn't get it he wigs out just like he's doing now.
I'll have to get ahold of rene50 to see if he's got that cops # still.[/quote]
Except I haven't done anything to you or anyone else.
I would have assumed you are a cop since you get upset by any mention of le engaging in wrong doing while simultaneously supporting the wrong doing.
Nope, that's just your emotional side coming out due to being upset that the training and the cops connected to it weren't lauded.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Happy Camper is crazy as a schithouse rat.
His desperation to be validated is so easy to see, he needs validation, when he doesn't get it he wigs out just like he's doing now.
I'll have to get ahold of rene50 to see if he's got that cops # still.
Except I haven't done anything to you or anyone else.
I would have assumed you are a cop since you get upset by any mention of le engaging in wrong doing while simultaneously supporting the wrong doing.
Do you always talk to a serial killer like that or is this your first time?
Nope, that's just your emotional side coming out due to being upset that the training and the cops connected to it weren't lauded.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Happy Camper is crazy as a schithouse rat.
His desperation to be validated is so easy to see, he needs validation, when he doesn't get it he wigs out just like he's doing now.
I'll have to get ahold of rene50 to see if he's got that cops # still.
Except I haven't done anything to you or anyone else.
I would have assumed you are a cop since you get upset by any mention of le engaging in wrong doing while simultaneously supporting the wrong doing.
Do you always talk to a serial killer like that or is this your first time?
Nope, that's just your emotional side coming out due to being upset that the training and the cops connected to it weren't lauded.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Happy Camper is crazy as a schithouse rat.
His desperation to be validated is so easy to see, he needs validation, when he doesn't get it he wigs out just like he's doing now.
I'll have to get ahold of rene50 to see if he's got that cops # still.
Except I haven't done anything to you or anyone else.
I would have assumed you are a cop since you get upset by any mention of le engaging in wrong doing while simultaneously supporting the wrong doing.
Do you always talk to a serial killer like that or is this your first time?
That would explain alot.
Who you gonna dox and call next? do you still have Rory's # I need to get ahold of him, maybe you could call him for me if you feel uncomfortable giving me the #.
Nope, that's just your emotional side coming out due to being upset that the training and the cops connected to it weren't lauded.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Happy Camper is crazy as a schithouse rat.
His desperation to be validated is so easy to see, he needs validation, when he doesn't get it he wigs out just like he's doing now.
I'll have to get ahold of rene50 to see if he's got that cops # still.
Except I haven't done anything to you or anyone else.
I would have assumed you are a cop since you get upset by any mention of le engaging in wrong doing while simultaneously supporting the wrong doing.
Do you always talk to a serial killer like that or is this your first time?
That would explain alot.
Who you gonna dox and call next? do you still have Rory's # I need to get ahold of him, maybe you could call him for me if you feel uncomfortable giving me the #.
Nope, that's just your emotional side coming out due to being upset that the training and the cops connected to it weren't lauded.
You have a grand total of 3 of your 550+ outside of this sub-forum. 95% of those are bitching about police. To summarize, you joined this outdoor forum to bitch about police, crybaby.
Happy Camper is crazy as a schithouse rat.
His desperation to be validated is so easy to see, he needs validation, when he doesn't get it he wigs out just like he's doing now.
I'll have to get ahold of rene50 to see if he's got that cops # still.
Except I haven't done anything to you or anyone else.
I would have assumed you are a cop since you get upset by any mention of le engaging in wrong doing while simultaneously supporting the wrong doing.
Do you always talk to a serial killer like that or is this your first time?
That would explain alot.
Who you gonna dox and call next? do you still have Rory's # I need to get ahold of him, maybe you could call him for me if you feel uncomfortable giving me the #.
I haven't doxed or called anyone.
Why did the video upset you?
Lol, Did another I-beam fall and knock you in the Knoggin' again?
Coma on man, you didn't think you'd get away with it forever did you. I'll help you out for next time. You desperation to be validated is what gives you away each and every time. on your next sock try not to be so desperate and it'll take a bit longer for someone to figure you out.
Just ease into it don't wig out on the first post, slow and steady wins the race.......
yep, that's happy crapper. same crazy returded ranting schit he used to post
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
For the spelling error you’ll need to click on your own link.
It’s not that I “didn’t like” your answer it’s that you didn’t give one.
Are you seeing these police abuses day to day in your home town/area or are seeing them on your internet feed?
Again I apologize for referring to your lawyer as a social justice warrior. He has said the warrior mindset is a bad thing, especially for the guys who actually step up to protect their communities from criminals.
The youtube channel is that John Bryan who spells his name John Bryan.
You asked that after you disliked my answer about seeing anti 2A police long before the internet and I do see anti 2A police on a regular basis and I assume there are plenty of anti 2A police in your area.
The assumption about your area is because I support the 2A while you would likely claim all cops/agencies in your area are pro 2A since you would say "I support the 2A, but" which also means you find most police outside of New York City to be rabidly pro 2A and police wanting LE exemptions from anti 2A laws as being proof they support the 2A.
Warrior mentality involves committing crimes to prevent crimes per your beliefs. Sounds weird, but just so I understand where you are coming from.
I hope this is in jest or that you are getting therapy.
Happy Camper don't need no therapy,
If he needs a therapist he'll pray for one and it will be delivered to the nearest intersection.......you know like the socket set.
Or it'll be dropped on his head like the I-beam.........
A lot to unload here. I watched the video and found it incredibly inappropriate. I would hope they were describing crazy things they witnessed and then reported immediately to a supervisor. However, it sure doesn’t look like it. Please know we aren’t all like this.
All of my agency training is ran through a training commission with LE, medical professionals, advocacy groups, lawyers, and politicians. We don’t authorize training that isn’t training commission approved or vetted by the Attorney General.
I actually have my constitutional law books and a copy of the constitution in my office. I hold monthly meetings where we discuss applicable laws and pending legislation. I’m known to be intolerant of misuse of authority and disrespect. Just fired an officer for referring to a community member as “it” when the gender was ambiguous. A lot of discipline isn’t publicly released because it’s a personnel issue. The law allows for public disclosure, not volunteered transparency. Anything we are asked to provide, we will.
Body cameras are a double-edged sword. They are great for accountability for officers and people they contact. HOWEVER, they are almost a guarantee you won’t catch a break. If footage shows an officer release someone who later hurts someone, you’re toast. The governing body also gets upset when warnings are given vs fines collected.
Given all of this, which many would consider as a deterrent to apply and an inhospitable working environment as an LEO, ALL of my officers have opted out of the union.
I will say this, I equip my people well. I don’t care if their overt armor carriers look scary. They are more ergonomic, user adjustable , and do a great job of making us immediately identifiable. And if it takes an armored vehicle to block gunfire so we can get to someone we are trying to get out of danger, then so be it
there is no way over 1000 police officers attended this paid training .
would love to see the entire videos and complete context
Originally Posted by Gooch_McGrundle
A lot to unload here. I watched the video and found it incredibly inappropriate. I would hope they were describing crazy things they witnessed and then reported immediately to a supervisor. However, it sure doesn’t look like it. Please know we aren’t all like this.
All of my agency training is ran through a training commission with LE, medical professionals, advocacy groups, lawyers, and politicians. We don’t authorize training that isn’t training commission approved or vetted by the Attorney General.
I actually have my constitutional law books and a copy of the constitution in my office. I hold monthly meetings where we discuss applicable laws and pending legislation. I’m known to be intolerant of misuse of authority and disrespect. Just fired an officer for referring to a community member as “it” when the gender was ambiguous. A lot of discipline isn’t publicly released because it’s a personnel issue. The law allows for public disclosure, not volunteered transparency. Anything we are asked to provide, we will.
Body cameras are a double-edged sword. They are great for accountability for officers and people they contact. HOWEVER, they are almost a guarantee you won’t catch a break. If footage shows an officer release someone who later hurts someone, you’re toast. The governing body also gets upset when warnings are given vs fines collected.
Given all of this, which many would consider as a deterrent to apply and an inhospitable working environment as an LEO, ALL of my officers have opted out of the union.
I will say this, I equip my people well. I don’t care if their overt armor carriers look scary. They are more ergonomic, user adjustable , and do a great job of making us immediately identifiable. And if it takes an armored vehicle to block gunfire so we can get to someone we are trying to get out of danger, then so be it
I certainly hope you've reached out to your state's police certification/accreditation organization and alerted them of this bad training company.
You've done that right?
Why would they need a heads up on something they attend and enjoy?
So you're just going to bìtch then?
A true man of action lol
Passing along info. Why does that upset you?
You are the one stroking out over something that apparently isn't important enough for you to actually take action to impart change for the betterment of your community.
I certainly hope you've reached out to your state's police certification/accreditation organization and alerted them of this bad training company.
You've done that right?
Why would they need a heads up on something they attend and enjoy?
So you're just going to bìtch then?
A true man of action lol
Passing along info. Why does that upset you?
You are the one stroking out over something that apparently isn't important enough for you to actually take action to impart change for the betterment of your community.
Just keep bìtching, that will help
I didn't say that.
I have noticed le,(and their supporters) generally support negative things(such as the training in the video), but do not like the undoctored info becoming known to the public as demonstrated in this thread.
Here's another good example from some of your California colleagues who took over a year to release video that showed most of them in a less than flattering light. Once again, no problem with it happening while being opposed to the public knowing what happened.
What good would it have done for one of the people on the highway to call the cops to report a deputy shot the hostage when they all knew it when it happened?
I can quite often be foul-mouthed and rough around the edges, but those characters take it to a higher level of obnoxiousness than I'm comfortable with. If those clowns had been teaching a class I attended, I would have likely walked out and called my management to let them know how effed up they were.
And no respect at all for Tim Kennedy after describing "drinking from the skull of your enemy". That was like 5th grade babble or something.
I can quite often be foul-mouthed and rough around the edges, but those characters take it to a higher level of obnoxiousness than I'm comfortable with. If those clowns had been teaching a class I attended, I would have likely walked out and called my management to let them know how effed up they were.
And no respect at all for Tim Kennedy after describing "drinking from the skull of your enemy". That was like 5th grade babble or something.
Looks like he will say whatever he thinks will appeal to the larger portion of the room.
That training was probably a pay to attend training. Nothing mandated by any states training commission. I saw no benefit to it. If I had paid to attend that training, it looks to be terrible. Not worth it in any way
That training was probably a pay to attend training. Nothing mandated by any states training commission. I saw no benefit to it. If I had paid to attend that training, it looks to be terrible. Not worth it in any way
Well yeah there is payment for the classes. Some paid their own way, but the bulk was tax payers. Apparently few, if any, had any complaints.
Searching for
the civil rights lawyer
On YouTube and one of the hits is his post offering to pay for admission for a cop who will record the event.
Safe bet the crowd at this event that was laughing and applauding have attended other training events that either bored or even angered them since the material covered n those events wasn't like what StreetCopTraining puts out.
cops use more training? sure probably so lots of continuing education and training sounds like a good idea..
most are already overworked and underpaid so let's give up an extra weekend a month for more training. there's one kicker to the idea not saying it's all that bad though.
what this country could use a whole lot of is citizenship training. how to be a proper productive citizen not just a random [bleep]. so many of those YouTube videos the citizen being questioned or stopped it's just a [bleep] [bleep]..
yes there are exceptions to that and there are some bad cops or bad judgment calls that get out of hand.
Do you ever get tired of posting about the police?
Very much so. Unfortunately the officers involved and their supporters that are entertained by the wrong doing(people who have to call others names for just one example) don't get tired of creating the incidents, but they do get worked up over the incidents becoming more well known.
cops use more training? sure probably so lots of continuing education and training sounds like a good idea..
most are already overworked and underpaid so let's give up an extra weekend a month for more training. there's one kicker to the idea not saying it's all that bad though.
what this country could use a whole lot of is citizenship training. how to be a proper productive citizen not just a random [bleep]. so many of those YouTube videos the citizen being questioned or stopped it's just a [bleep] [bleep]..
yes there are exceptions to that and there are some bad cops or bad judgment calls that get out of hand.
cops use more training? sure probably so lots of continuing education and training sounds like a good idea..
most are already overworked and underpaid so let's give up an extra weekend a month for more training. there's one kicker to the idea not saying it's all that bad though.
what this country could use a whole lot of is citizenship training. how to be a proper productive citizen not just a random [bleep]. so many of those YouTube videos the citizen being questioned or stopped it's just a [bleep] [bleep]..
yes there are exceptions to that and there are some bad cops or bad judgment calls that get out of hand.
Do you ever get tired of posting about the police?
Very much so.
LOL, bullshìt.
Originally Posted by Strop10
Very much so. Unfortunately the officers involved and their supporters that are entertained by the wrong doing(people who have to call others names for just one example) don't get tired of creating the incidents, but they do get worked up over the incidents becoming more well known.
No bullshit.
I oppose dud cops, anti 2A initiatives, and numerous other [bleep] ends of the stick. End of story.
cops use more training? sure probably so lots of continuing education and training sounds like a good idea..
most are already overworked and underpaid so let's give up an extra weekend a month for more training. there's one kicker to the idea not saying it's all that bad though.
what this country could use a whole lot of is citizenship training. how to be a proper productive citizen not just a random [bleep]. so many of those YouTube videos the citizen being questioned or stopped it's just a [bleep] [bleep]..
yes there are exceptions to that and there are some bad cops or bad judgment calls that get out of hand.
I oppose dud cops, anti 2A initiatives, and numerous other [bleep] ends of the stick. End of story.
Total bullsh*t. How do you "oppose dud cops" other than non-stop posting on here?
You're a troll, and you get off on stirring sh*t. Just admit it.
I'm not joining up at every le agency in the country nor have i attempted to get on as executive vice president at nra since supporters of both groups defend their actions by claiming only those who join up should be allowed to be critical of their actions. Interestingly enough, the supporters who use that defense frequently criticize such groups as elected officials without holding office themselves.
How is sharing a link to details of an incident featuring dud cops, anti 2A actions, or anything else trolling or [bleep] stirring?
Does that mean you and others here support the le committing the incidents, anti 2A laws, and so on?
Ok, I'll open this can of worms even wider. How much more training? Subjects? How do you cover for minimum staffing requirements? Last, how do you pay for it? Come on LE experts! Share your vast wisdom.......................?
Ok, I'll open this can of worms even wider. How much more training? Subjects? How do you cover for minimum staffing requirements? Last, how do you pay for it? Come on LE experts! Share your vast wisdom.......................?
1) Why pay for training that is instructing the attendees on how to violate rights?
2) Who determines minimum staffing requirements?
3) Most importantly, what is the claimed/advertised purpose of having le?
here's what you Google up for the state of Missouri
if you ask me that's not all that much to put up with the occasional bad guy. but also all the complete dumbass and dick heads out there..
That's not giving the salary info for a specific agency in Missouri to compare against what an average person in that county makes.
That would be the average person who also gets to interact with criminals and everyone else a cop gets to interact with.
you're one of them dumb [bleep] on YouTube but just sit and argue with the cop until it goes south aren't you.. instead of doing You Tube try using your IQ
here's what you Google up for the state of Missouri
if you ask me that's not all that much to put up with the occasional bad guy. but also all the complete dumbass and dick heads out there..
That's not giving the salary info for a specific agency in Missouri to compare against what an average person in that county makes.
That would be the average person who also gets to interact with criminals and everyone else a cop gets to interact with.
you're one of them dumb [bleep] on YouTube but just sit and argue with the cop until it goes south aren't you.. instead of doing You Tube try using your IQ
Sounds like you are aware of how le salaries are higher than the average salary of the area they work in and instead of sharing that example with us you had to resort to making things up.
What people on YouTube are you referring to? The ones with a/v recording equipment that passes le off since their version of events is quite different than what gets recorded?
and yet, more and more, there seems to be a need for some agency or organization to counteract the tsunami of crime in America. Other than just declaring open season on criminals and bringing back vigilante justice, what alternative to cops would suit y'all?
I'll take open season on criminals for $1,000 Alex.
Pardon my skepticism of anything voiced by any official of the very Democrat State of New Jersey.
I’m gonna go with the “we are seeing five second sound bites” opinion, especially since these sound bites were selected by said New Jersey official.
I also agree that listening to some guy deliver a monologue on stage does not constitute training, especially for something as hands-on as policing.
I’d need to see their deliverables; what materials do participants leave with?
I’d also want to see their schedule of events, what specific tracings are offered and the activities therein. It’s gonna be transparent, it has to be.
1,000 Cops attending, a lot gotta be women, some of the woke feminist persuasion, and none complain? Seems like they would if those guys stepping on their three inch johnsons in those sound bites was the whole content.
Pardon my skepticism of anything voiced by any official of the very Democrat State of New Jersey.
I’m gonna go with the “we are seeing five second sound bites” opinion, especially since these sound bites were selected by said New Jersey official.
I also agree that listening to some guy deliver a monologue on stage does not constitute training, especially for something as hands-on as policing.
I’d need to see their deliverables; what materials do participants leave with?
I’d also want to see their schedule of events, what specific tracings are offered and the activities therein. It’s gonna be transparent, it has to be.
1,000 Cops attending, a lot gotta be women, some of the woke feminist persuasion, and none complain? Seems like they would if those guys stepping on their three inch johnsons in those sound bites was the whole content.
It was more than 5 seconds sound bites.
Woke is anti constitutional limits so why would woke cops be opposed to tips on violating said cinstitution?
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