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and yet, more and more, there seems to be a need for some agency or organization to counteract the tsunami of crime in America. Other than just declaring open season on criminals and bringing back vigilante justice, what alternative to cops would suit y'all?
We wouldn't need so many cops if the States and the Federal Government did their jobs. That means long periods of incarceration and more over sight by the courts of folks who have been FAIRLY convicted of crimes.

There is too much reliance on the cops while the politicians are NOT doing their jobs. I do think that because of some of the stress and dealing with $hithead people day after day the cops forget who they are working for and who they are trying to serve. It's NOT just a cop issue. It's a leftist government issue not doing their job and then blaming the cops. We can start by not electing democRATs then we can move on to wishy washy republicans.

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Many good police officers are quite hamstrung by the judiciary. Particularity those that are "woke liberals."


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Body cams can protect the cops, too.




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Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by bearhuntr
Many good police officers are quite hamstrung by the judiciary. Particularity those that are "woke liberals."

Police, prosecutors, and judges typically support each other as seen here.

https://reason.com/2024/04/01/judge...ose-lies-led-to-a-deadly-2019-drug-raid/

And it isn't new. Deputy Burgess, the child raping one, got his sentence suspended by a sympathetic judge who worried about him being harned in prison.


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Body cams can protect the cops, too.




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When did any cops get wrongfully convicted prior to bodycams?

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Originally Posted by Strop10
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Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.


Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also included.

With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?

I don’t.

But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.

I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.

I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.

Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?


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Originally Posted by Strop10
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Body cams can protect the cops, too.




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When did any cops get wrongfully convicted prior to bodycams?

No idea.

How many unjustified complaints did they get?

I’m saying it keeps both sides honest now.

Make no mistake, it’s far better for citizens than cops.


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Body cams can protect the cops, too.




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When did any cops get wrongfully convicted prior to bodycams?

No idea.

How many unjustified complaints did they get?

I’m saying it keeps both sides honest now.

Make no mistake, it’s far better for citizens than cops.

How many incidents are there where le claim complaints about their behavior are not justified, but the written/spoken version of events from the le differs wildly from what gets recorded on video? How many cops still suffer no criminal penalties(or have to pay a penny on the civil end) for crimes they commit recorded on camera?

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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.


Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also included.

With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?

I don’t.

But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.

I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.

I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.

Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?


Got to see le complaining about repealing anti 2A laws and calling for more laws(with exemptions for their clique) long before I ever logged on to the internet.

Not all cops are like that, but they are viewed as woke pussies if they don't go along with the majority as you pointed out.

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Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.


Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also included.

With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?

I don’t.

But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.

I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.

I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.

Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?


Got to see le complaining about repealing anti 2A laws and calling for more laws(with exemptions for their clique) long before I ever logged on to the internet.

Not all cops are like that, but they are viewed as woke pussies if they don't go along with the majority as you pointed out.

Plenty of shît cops around, no doubt. But you’re here in a crusade, I’m just wondering if it’s that bad in your area you see it day to day or if your just getting all St Floydy over stuff you see on the ‘net. Like the sjw guy you posted up top.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.


Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also includIed.

With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?

I don’t.

But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.

I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.

I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.

Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?


Got to see le complaining about repealing anti 2A laws and calling for more laws(with exemptions for their clique) long before I ever logged on to the internet.

Not all cops are like that, but they are viewed as woke pussies if they don't go along with the majority as you pointed out.

Plenty of shît cops around, no doubt. But you’re here in a crusade, I’m just wondering if it’s that bad in your area you see it day to day or if your just getting all St Floydy over stuff you see on the ‘net. Like the sjw guy you posted up top.

I doubt George Floyd had any interest in the 2A(or any other rights) and I assume you really don't think so either, but want to paint anyone that does support rights as being a career criminal by linking them to Floyd.

I would refer to John Bryan as a 2A(and other rights) supporter. I guess with your being upset about opposing police violating rights, someone like John Bryan is a social justice warrior.

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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.


Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also included.

With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?

I don’t.

But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.

I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.

I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.

Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?


Got to see le complaining about repealing anti 2A laws and calling for more laws(with exemptions for their clique) long before I ever logged on to the internet.

Not all cops are like that, but they are viewed as woke pussies if they don't go along with the majority as you pointed out.

Plenty of shît cops around, no doubt. But you’re here in a crusade, I’m just wondering if it’s that bad in your area you see it day to day or if your just getting all St Floydy over stuff you see on the ‘net. Like the sjw guy you posted up top.

Here's the social justice warrior John Bryan interviewing another social justice warrior name Chris Weiss. His client's family had one of those evil cameras installed in their home.

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/live/WfK6KgScQM8?si=wxYA_TF67suQ8K3G[/video]

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Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.


Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also included.

With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?

I don’t.

But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.

I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.

I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.

Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?


Got to see le complaining about repealing anti 2A laws and calling for more laws(with exemptions for their clique) long before I ever logged on to the internet.

Not all cops are like that, but they are viewed as woke pussies if they don't go along with the majority as you pointed out.

Plenty of shît cops around, no doubt. But you’re here in a crusade, I’m just wondering if it’s that bad in your area you see it day to day or if your just getting all St Floydy over stuff you see on the ‘net. Like the sjw guy you posted up top.

Here's the social justice warrior John Bryan interviewing another social justice warrior name Chris Weiss. His client's family had one of those evil cameras installed in their home.

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/live/WfK6KgScQM8?si=wxYA_TF67suQ8K3G[/video]

I’d figure you could at least not misspell the name of a guy whose video you are directing traffic to.

I’ll be honest, I’m not sitting through a 2hr video. What evil camera are you talking about?

You didn’t answer my question though.


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Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
After watching the first 5 minutes all I saw was 5 second sound bites with no context and a civil rights lawyer giving voice over narration.


Then review the NJ comptroller report page(which is what John Bryan reviews) that I also includIed.

With that being pointed out, under what context would you support US le violating US rights?

I don’t.

But based the your comments and quick perusal of the material you posted, you’d prefer woke, pussies in LE who wouldn’t dream of making fun of you for driving a Prius in a dress and ball gag after the fact.

I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.

I do notice le agencies and individual officers opposing elimination of Anti 2A laws while calling for more which I view as violating rights, but you dont.

Do you notice those things day to day in your life, or you notice them on the internet channels you subscribe to?


Got to see le complaining about repealing anti 2A laws and calling for more laws(with exemptions for their clique) long before I ever logged on to the internet.

Not all cops are like that, but they are viewed as woke pussies if they don't go along with the majority as you pointed out.

Plenty of shît cops around, no doubt. But you’re here in a crusade, I’m just wondering if it’s that bad in your area you see it day to day or if your just getting all St Floydy over stuff you see on the ‘net. Like the sjw guy you posted up top.

I doubt George Floyd had any interest in the 2A(or any other rights) and I assume you really don't think so either, but want to paint anyone that does support rights as being a career criminal by linking them to Floyd.

I would refer to John Bryan as a 2A(and other rights) supporter. I guess with your being upset about opposing police violating rights, someone like John Bryan is a social justice warrior.

I’m not upset about anything. Just trying to figure you out. You can misrepresent me or my position(s) all you like. But you’ll show your ass soon enough.

You’re right though, I should not refer to him as a warrior. That’s toxic masculinity.


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or we could something like follow the law, then you won't need police. or you could be a Karen and bee-itch the whole time.


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Originally Posted by Strop10
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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Seems like they are receiving quite a bit and it shows.

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https://data.nj.gov/stories/s/NJ-Comptroller-Police-Training-Report/qr2h-vn6y/

There's not a bigger crybaby on this forum than you.

Don't sell yourself short.

Even in his spandex Paul is ten times the man you could ever dream of being........lol, no offense Paul.


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Originally Posted by bearhuntr
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
and yet, more and more, there seems to be a need for some agency or organization to counteract the tsunami of crime in America. Other than just declaring open season on criminals and bringing back vigilante justice, what alternative to cops would suit y'all?

Second step first: End qualified immunity. Make it clear to them that they will end up in jail if they break the constitution and it's given rights, and will pay out of pocket.

First step: Get rid of the commercialized 'schools' that train like the one above. Employ and empower nationally certified schools that must be looked at and condoned (approved)by the individual states. Insure that the curriculum (at the least) include a minimum of 4 months worth of constitutional training. One year minimum on all combined training. Make the prospective officer pay for his or her own training, just as all of us who went to college did.

Third step: Disband Iinternal Affairs from being only in-house groups to include an equal numbers of the public to maintain a First Amendment right of "oversight" to insure things getting "swept under the rug" currently, no longer do.

Last thing: Police employees found guilty of crimes and then getting off the hook for them (at tax payer expense) should be automatically expelled for being employed as an officer for ever. (see second step first above.)

People that are scared of not having the current system in place either do not know what their unalienable rights are, or are willing to give them up to the "other military complex," the one that is responsible for extortion of money (with jail time) for victimless crimes, ending in financial ruin of their innocent victims, and thus filling the coffers of their city, county, or state. They are all too willing to do this because their incentive of pay raises and extra stipends through awards given, and having QI, keeps feeding their MO. The sad part is that these officers trained by outfits like the one posted, will not go away anytime soon, as long as "free men" do nothing to recognize the problem exists, and then to help to fix that problem. Few of the politicians in power at any level, be it city, county, state, or national, give a rip for fixing this problem. Rather, many are very willing to maintain their power over the people, at the expense of those of us who pay their salaries, allowing them to reap the benefits dear to their hearts... power and money. In that order.
I would like to read and learn from - right here - some intelligent discussion/critique of bearhuntr's post - discussion and critique by well-experienced/properly trained/knowledgeable LEOs. Why is such not happening?


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Originally Posted by Strop10
I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.

Lol, the jury is still out on that one.......


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
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Here's the social justice warrior John Bryan interviewing another social justice warrior name Chris Weiss. His client's family had one of those evil cameras installed in their home.

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/live/WfK6KgScQM8?si=wxYA_TF67suQ8K3G[/video]

I’d figure you could at least not misspell the name of a guy whose video you are directing traffic to.

I’ll be honest, I’m not sitting through a 2hr video. What evil camera are you talking about?

You didn’t answer my question though.

What's the problem with spelling John Bryan the way he spells it?

https://thecivilrightslawyer.com/

"John H. Bryan, Attorney at Law"

The evil camera that the officers in the video didn't know existed until after they has been deposed. The officers demanded cell phone video be erased, but the pesky citizens pulled a fast one on them with a hidden camera.

What question did you ask that you didn't like my answer to? That LE are frequently anti 2A?

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I don't drive a Prius, own a dress, or own a ball gag.

Lol, the jury is still out on that one.......

Nah, not my thing. Just more made up smearing since I don't oppose the 2A and other rights like yourself and others do.

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