Hunter, 42, poses with exhausted wolf he tortured and paraded around his local bar with its mouth t…
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https://dailym.ai/androidSuspect this fellow will regret posting these pictures, owns a trucking company locally.
Quote from the Sheriff of this county
"Sublette County Sheriff K.C. Lehr didn’t know about an ugly mid-winter incident involving allegations of a tortured wolf in his jurisdiction until he read about it online in the last few days.
The cruel capture, display and delayed killing of the wolf was investigated by the Wyoming Game and Fish Department, which did not publicize what happened — or even bring sheriff’s deputies into the loop.
“They investigated, they found there was a violation,” Lehr said. “Granted, it was a slap on the hand for what seems to have happened.”
Lehr took off his sheriff’s hat, telling WyoFile that as a person he was aghast by the alleged details of the incident he’s read online: That the wolf was run down by a snowmobile, disabled, its mouth taped shut, then was brought into the Green River Bar in Daniel for cheap thrills before being shot behind the establishment. Those details have not been independently confirmed by KHOL Jackson Hole Community Radio and WyoFile.
“I don’t have anything to substantiate [the details],” Lehr said. “But if it did go to that extreme, not as a sheriff but as a hunter, as a resident of Sublette County, I find those actions very disturbing and unethical.”
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“Can there be additional charges?” he added. “I’m looking at that right now in consultation with our county attorney.”
That guy needs to be punished severely. He is a sick man.
Personally find it abhorrent, Totally unacceptable and unfortunate. Kill it and be done. Hope he goes bankrupt.
If he did as posted, I have no words for such foolishness.
I’m no wolf lover and have killed some and I certainly am in favor of lethal controls when needed. Anyone who could do what the guy is accused of to any animal is flat wrong.
Osky
Dumb move to take pictures.
Not a fan of what he did too and I don’t like wolves.
Personally find it abhorrent, Totally unacceptable and unfortunate. Kill it and be done. Hope he goes bankrupt.
Abhorrent is a good word for something like that.
Osky
That guy needs to be punished severely. He is a sick man.
I agree. Shifted from local news to worldwide news. Betting he will face judicial and extra-judicial punishment. Wouldnt want to be his insurance company.
That guy needs to be a fly fisherman- - - - -torturing his prey to exhaustion by using the smallest leader possible and artificially prolonging the "sport" of bringing the fish to hand. Then the virtue-signalling sadist "releases" it to a lingering death somewhere downstream. That kind of sadism is "legal"!
I don’t understand the idea of parading around a 1/2 dead dog. If your going to kill it, just kill it and then do as you will.
I wouldn’t ruin a guys life over it though.
$250 fine sounds about right. Hope he learned about putting schit like that on social media.
I posted the same subject a few days ago. Be ready for the haters to come after you big time. I couldn't believe the responses, ranging from FAKE NEWS crowd to the wolf haters. Some members label anything that they disagree with Fake News, without checking the records or having a clue. I'm do not like the wolves and I am really not a fan of the reintroduction of them. Killing is one thing but cruelty should be severely punished. This is a very sick man, he needs help or a long jail sentence! Karma is a bitch, and transfers to this ass holes supporters.
BTW I deleted my post, that was a big mistake, glad to see some members have a soul! I WAS A COWARD
It makes me nervous know we have guys like this in our community!
Torturing an animal is messed up, even if it's a wolf. It takes a sick mind to pull that kind of chit, posting it was really dumb.
IDIOT! Makes all hunters look bad and gives a lot of ammo to the groups that want the wolf totally protected by the Feds.
Sick MOFO, who's hate is badly misdirected.
Wolves do what Wolves do; the problem lies with the idiots who introduced them where they should not be.
MM
Don't call him a hunter! Ever!
Man I hate wolves. Not much I would rather get than a wolf, or 3.
But, I am no sadist. And really don't like killing things, but when it needs to be done, you do it and get it over with for the animal's sake and for your personal mental health.
This guy has issues (read that in Captain Obvious' voice). In addition to his issues though, I bet that wolf represents more than a wolf to him and his buddies. I would imagine they see the wolf as a representation of the government's intrusion into their lives. So it is a resounding FU to government and environmental/wildlife groups that are forcing crap onto people out in the real world.
No excuse for hi. He needs some pretty severe punishment. But not ruin his life. Not end his ability to hunt etc for life.
I am no expert on Wyoming laws but this would seem to apply.
(ii) Knowingly, and with intent to cause death or undue suffering, beats with cruelty, tortures, torments or mutilates an animal. (b) Felony cruelty to animals is a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than two (2) years, a fine of not more than five thousand dollars ($5,000.00), or both.
That guy needs to be a fly fisherman- - - - -torturing his prey to exhaustion by using the smallest leader possible and artificially prolonging the "sport" of bringing the fish to hand. Then the virtue-signalling sadist "releases" it to a lingering death somewhere downstream. That kind of sadism is "legal"!
WTF, Really! Moron alert!
In the performance of my job I once roped an alligator in someone's yard, fought him to exhaustion on the rope, with help duct taped his mouth shut, and loaded him up in the truck, all 11 feet of him. I took him by my wife's place of employment and showed him off to the patients and staff and then hauled him even further away from his point of origin, un taped him and threw him out at a remote swampy area.
Alligators became such a problem that we started roping them, tying them to a tree and calling someone with tags to come get him.
The boy with the wolf should have just quickly killed him.
He’s not a hunter, he’s a snowmobiler. Those things need to be outlawed! 😁
Not a wolf hater or advocate but his behavior was just stupid. He’ll pay one way or another.
Back before the internet, a local coyote hunter shot a wolf and had it mounted. Since officially wolves don’t exist in SD, that couldn’t possibly happen.
He had the wolf displayed in a local bar, until the feds got wind of it and confiscated it.
He’s not a hunter, he’s a snowmobiler. Those things need to be outlawed! 😁
Not a wolf hater or advocate but his behavior was just stupid. He’ll pay one way or another.
No wonder the caribou populations are dwindling in Alaska and Canada with the natives being allowed to run wild on snow mobiles and shoot whatever they wish.
Back before the internet, a local coyote hunter shot a wolf and had it mounted. Since officially wolves don’t exist in SD, that couldn’t possibly happen.
He had the wolf displayed in a local bar, until the feds got wind of it and confiscated it.
A collared Yellowstone wolf ended up dead on a South Dakota highway several years ago.
They should have put the guy in jail for 30 days. Leave him in handcuffs, tape his mouth and introduce him to his new cell mates, Bubba, Jerome, and Bruce !!! Then put that online.
The level of stupidity some folks can muster up never ceases to amaze.
I am no expert on Wyoming laws but this would seem to apply.
(ii) Knowingly, and with intent to cause death or undue suffering, beats with cruelty, tortures, torments or mutilates an animal. (b) Felony cruelty to animals is a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than two (2) years, a fine of not more than five thousand dollars ($5,000.00), or both.
Well you ARE correct about one thing, you're no expert on Wyoming law. The law you're quoting only applies to domesticated animals, aka "Pets" and does not apply in this case as Wolves are listed as Predators/Varmints. The wolf was captured in the "Predator" zone so there are no license violations, or such. The WG&F issued a citation for the only statute that they could against him, possession of a live wild animal.
Bad move on this guy's part, absolutely. I'm sure he will pay dearly for his lapse in judgment.
I recall a photograph that ran in a national publication many years ago of a man holding a live Coyote (with it's mouth tied shut) across his lap while setting on the stoop of a cabin in the West. He had taken it from a leghold trap on his trapline and brought it back alive. It was a much celebrated photograph.
That act is stupid enough to be a false flag PETA.
It takes a special kind of stupid to hang ones self via social media and there should be something similar to a Darwin award for such. Some local kids a couple years back posted their attempts to ride a bleating mule deer they had wounded. Authorities were on their steps the following morning. I can't recall the details, but it was expensive.
It takes a special kind of stupid to hang ones self via social media ....
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I am no expert on Wyoming laws but this would seem to apply.
(ii) Knowingly, and with intent to cause death or undue suffering, beats with cruelty, tortures, torments or mutilates an animal. (b) Felony cruelty to animals is a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than two (2) years, a fine of not more than five thousand dollars ($5,000.00), or both.
Well you ARE correct about one thing, you're no expert on Wyoming law. The law you're quoting only applies to domesticated animals, aka "Pets" and does not apply in this case as Wolves are listed as Predators/Varmints. The wolf was captured in the "Predator" zone so there are no license violations, or such. The WG&F issued a citation for the only statute that they could against him, possession of a live wild animal.
Bad move on this guy's part, absolutely. I'm sure he will pay dearly for his lapse in judgment.
I recall a photograph that ran in a national publication many years ago of a man holding a live Coyote (with it's mouth tied shut) across his lap while setting on the stoop of a cabin in the West. He had taken it from a leghold trap on his trapline and brought it back alive. It was a much celebrated photograph.
The law doesn’t specify domesticated animals. An animal in captivity (either a zoo or captured wildlife) will quite often be considered under animal cruelty laws. Look at the Wyoming law. It clearly differentiates between animals, household pets and livestock. So you can’t say wildlife isn’t protected.
§ 6-3-1002. Cruelty to animals
(a) A person commits cruelty to animals if the person:
(i) Knowingly overrides an animal or drives an animal when overloaded;
(ii) Intentionally or knowingly, unnecessarily injures or beats an animal;
(iii) Knowingly carries an animal in a manner that poses undue risk of injury or death;
(iv) Has the charge and custody of any animal and under circumstances which manifest extreme indifference to the animal's safety, health or life:
(A) Fails to provide it with proper food, drink or protection from the weather adequate for the species;
(B) Abandons the animal. Relinquishment of an animal to a public or private animal shelter or like facility is not a violation of this subparagraph;
(C) In the case of immediate, obvious, serious illness or injury to the animal, fails to provide the animal with appropriate care; or
(D) Keeps any household pet in a manner that results in chronic or repeated serious physical harm to the household pet.
(v) Owns, possesses, keeps or trains fowls or dogs with the intent to allow the dog or fowl to engage in an exhibition of fighting with another dog or fowl;
(vi) For gain causes or allows any dog to fight with another dog or any fowl to fight with another fowl;
(vii) Promotes any dog or fowl fighting;
(viii) Knowingly permits any act prohibited under paragraphs (v) through (vii) of this subsection on any premises under the person's charge or control; or
(ix) Shoots, poisons or otherwise intentionally acts to seriously injure or destroy any livestock or domesticated animal owned by another person while the animal is on property where the animal is authorized to be present.
What a bunch of hand-wringing pussies.
F-you Hotrod. All fish are on a line. No comparison to torturing any animal. If true the guy should be held accountable and charged.
Sick MOFO, who's hate is badly misdirected.
Wolves do what Wolves do; the problem lies with the idiots who introduced them where they should not be.
MM
^^^^^.
Give him a $250 and be done with the whole thing.
F-you Hotrod. All fish are on a line. No comparison to torturing any animal. If true the guy should be held accountable and charged.
That is funny. He was obviously trolling and you rose to the bait. I doubt he really feels that way but even if he does your reaction cracked me up. But back to the original topic yeah that guy was an idiot, especially getting pictures.
Ethics as far as running it down can be debated but keeping it alive rather than killing it when he got there is a whole other thing. His legal punishment will probably be outweighed by other lawsuits and reputation, especially being a business owner. May have a target on his back now from G&F and other law enforcement.
Sick MOFO, who's hate is badly misdirected.
Wolves do what Wolves do; the problem lies with the idiots who introduced them where they should not be.
MM
Kill all the wolves you can but that guy has issues.
About as stupid as it gets as mentioned by others already.
No animal deserves that, first, especially when intentional.
Finally this behavior is the direct antithesis of being an ethical "sportsman", which in the end, gives all of us a black eye in the simple minds of the opposition!
At some level it is no different than irresponsible gun owners doing stupid/tragic things to innocent people and adversely affecting other "innocents" in the equation. Make an example of the perpetrators so others will at least think before doing something similar. Sadly though, there will ALWAYS be some "stupid"...
Swallowed the hook! Funny how somebody's favorite ox getting gored provokes a rise! LOL!
So the guy glided over the snow with a snowmobile and ran the wolf to exhaustion. The gave it a long torturous death. Kind of like what wolves do to elk and deer all winter. Shouldn’t have taken pictures. Documentation replaces speculation. Zero F’s given for the wolf but the pictures were plain stupid.
It takes a special kind of stupid to hang ones self via social media ....
In defense of this girl. She was an inexperienced hunter and she reasonably thought she had legally killed a wolf. She didn't torture it, she shot it.
And in my opinion feral dogs out in the boondocks 9 miles off a highway should be shot. In this case it was later found that it was one of several that were dumped. The outrage should be directed at whoever did that.
Back before the internet, a local coyote hunter shot a wolf and had it mounted. Since officially wolves don’t exist in SD, that couldn’t possibly happen.
He had the wolf displayed in a local bar, until the feds got wind of it and confiscated it.
A collared Yellowstone wolf ended up dead on a South Dakota highway several years ago.
From a vehicle strike or bullet strike?
Back before the internet, a local coyote hunter shot a wolf and had it mounted. Since officially wolves don’t exist in SD, that couldn’t possibly happen.
He had the wolf displayed in a local bar, until the feds got wind of it and confiscated it.
A collared Yellowstone wolf ended up dead on a South Dakota highway several years ago.
From a vehicle strike or bullet strike?
Never could get the straight story on whether it was shot or run over. It was on the Pine Ridge Reservation and now I can't find any mention of the story but I distinctly remember it because I measured how many miles it travelled to get all the way across Wyoming to get there.
P.S. Just did another search and there was an article from May of 2012 about the collared wolf on Pine Ridge struck by a vehicle but The article cut me off and wanted me to pay for a subscription to keep reading.
That fuggin guy can burn in hell
As he will
What a dipschidt !
Bet his family is proud
^ Agree. He's a stupid POS. Hard to believe not one person in the bar made that clear to him
Sick MOFO, who's hate is badly misdirected.
Wolves do what Wolves do; the problem lies with the idiots who introduced them where they should not be.
MM
Kill all the wolves you can but that guy has issues.
Why? He had a beer with the wolf?
In addition to his issues though, I bet that wolf represents more than a wolf to him and his buddies. I would imagine they see the wolf as a representation of the government's intrusion into their lives. So it is a resounding FU to government and environmental/wildlife groups that are forcing crap onto people out in the real world.
I think you’re overthinking it.
I’m wondering how the people reacted at the bar he brought it to. Maybe that’s why he brung it out back and finally shot it.
So the guy glided over the snow with a snowmobile and ran the wolf to exhaustion. The gave it a long torturous death. Kind of like what wolves do to elk and deer all winter. Shouldn’t have taken pictures. Documentation replaces speculation. Zero F’s given for the wolf but the pictures were plain stupid.
It's not suprising you have no issues with torturing wild animals for fun and pleasure.
In addition to his issues though, I bet that wolf represents more than a wolf to him and his buddies. I would imagine they see the wolf as a representation of the government's intrusion into their lives. So it is a resounding FU to government and environmental/wildlife groups that are forcing crap onto people out in the real world.
I think you’re overthinking it...
Maybe. But much the same thing happened here in western Oregon mill towns when the Feds listed the spotted owl. Idiots shot up any owl they saw and nailed them to the "Welcome" signs on the outskirts of mill towns.
IDGAF!... only good wulf is a ded wulf... but should SSS in this fuqked up backward world... it's Miller Time!.. PS: ya'll see the legs & paws on that gottdanm thing?... Holy Fugg!...
That wolf was classified as a predator and Wyoming has no laws about cruelty to predators so the $250 is all WG&F could levy.
The dipwad will be the one responsible for laws passed now about that kind of activity.
I am no expert on Wyoming laws but this would seem to apply.
(ii) Knowingly, and with intent to cause death or undue suffering, beats with cruelty, tortures, torments or mutilates an animal. (b) Felony cruelty to animals is a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than two (2) years, a fine of not more than five thousand dollars ($5,000.00), or both.
Well you ARE correct about one thing, you're no expert on Wyoming law. The law you're quoting only applies to domesticated animals, aka "Pets" and does not apply in this case as Wolves are listed as Predators/Varmints. The wolf was captured in the "Predator" zone so there are no license violations, or such. The WG&F issued a citation for the only statute that they could against him, possession of a live wild animal.
Bad move on this guy's part, absolutely. I'm sure he will pay dearly for his lapse in judgment.
I recall a photograph that ran in a national publication many years ago of a man holding a live Coyote (with it's mouth tied shut) across his lap while setting on the stoop of a cabin in the West. He had taken it from a leghold trap on his trapline and brought it back alive. It was a much celebrated photograph.
The law doesn’t specify domesticated animals. An animal in captivity (either a zoo or captured wildlife) will quite often be considered under animal cruelty laws. Look at the Wyoming law. It clearly differentiates between animals, household pets and livestock. So you can’t say wildlife isn’t protected.
§ 6-3-1002. Cruelty to animals
(a) A person commits cruelty to animals if the person:
(i) Knowingly overrides an animal or drives an animal when overloaded;
(ii) Intentionally or knowingly, unnecessarily injures or beats an animal;
(iii) Knowingly carries an animal in a manner that poses undue risk of injury or death;
(iv) Has the charge and custody of any animal and under circumstances which manifest extreme indifference to the animal's safety, health or life:
(A) Fails to provide it with proper food, drink or protection from the weather adequate for the species;
(B) Abandons the animal. Relinquishment of an animal to a public or private animal shelter or like facility is not a violation of this subparagraph;
(C) In the case of immediate, obvious, serious illness or injury to the animal, fails to provide the animal with appropriate care; or
(D) Keeps any household pet in a manner that results in chronic or repeated serious physical harm to the household pet.
(v) Owns, possesses, keeps or trains fowls or dogs with the intent to allow the dog or fowl to engage in an exhibition of fighting with another dog or fowl;
(vi) For gain causes or allows any dog to fight with another dog or any fowl to fight with another fowl;
(vii) Promotes any dog or fowl fighting;
(viii) Knowingly permits any act prohibited under paragraphs (v) through (vii) of this subsection on any premises under the person's charge or control; or
(ix) Shoots, poisons or otherwise intentionally acts to seriously injure or destroy any livestock or domesticated animal owned by another person while the animal is on property where the animal is authorized to be present.
So this has been bouncing around for many days here in the state on various news media fronts. It's been cited many times in legitimate news sources, that the law does NOT apply to wild Predator varmints.
"legitimate news sources"????? What might they be, and where found?
I am more or less with Hotrod Lincoln on this issue. Most here will not agree, but I really DGAF. I got called out when I indicated I had zero compassion for bull-fighting, and less than zero compassion for those who pay to watch said animal being tortured before being killed (meme: bull jumping the ring video). I hoped the bull got a little payback for himself, is all.
I do not believe I was the one who should "seek help" for that opinion/ethics/ whatever. Quite the reverse actually.
Catch and release for " sport", I do consider a form of torture. How else would one describe deliberately inflicting stress and anguish, possibly needless death or mutilation on an animal for the sole reason of your own "enjoyment". If the fish is under or over sized, the wrong species, then "catch and release" is another thing.
I have commercial fished for salmon and slaughtered thousands with a gill net. I still use a gill net to catch personal use fish, but prefer a dip net, bonk, and gill tear to bleed the fish. Minimal stress on the fish for maximum quality. Strangling in a gill net isn't the best way to go from the fish's point of view. Even worse than hook and line. Tough titty - you is eats!
Do I "sport-fish"? Yes, on very rare occasion, I do "sport fish" for pike, & catch and release over what I want to eat. Anything else - No, not since I was a teen when it dawned on me that catching numerous trash fish and tossing them up on the bank alive to die slowly was maybe not the best thing to do. At least bonk them dead.
I don't delude myself about what I am doing tho. If you have a problem with HL's, or my, opinion, well, it's your problem, not mine.
My opinion isn't going to mean that I'm going to preclude you from your passion, icky (IMO) tho it may be.
Cv540: I am NO Wolf lover but this is sad and inhumane on so many levels.
Fugg'em.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Back before the internet, a local coyote hunter shot a wolf and had it mounted. Since officially wolves don’t exist in SD, that couldn’t possibly happen.
He had the wolf displayed in a local bar, until the feds got wind of it and confiscated it.
A collared Yellowstone wolf ended up dead on a South Dakota highway several years ago.
I have a wolf skull (confirmed by SDSU bio and yellowstone wolf Bio) that I found while turkey hunting in the White River bottoms south of Chamberlain, SD. Found in 1997 I believe or 98? Deemed to be a transient from yellowstone.
And, if all true...this guy is the definition of trashy meat head. Guys like this need firm consequences because they just don't get it. He needs his teeth kicked in and at least a day in jail and 5k fine. I'm a huge hunter of everything. No animal deserves to suffer like that. Would he have done that with a deer? Break its leg, tie it up and parade around a bar? Doubt it. No difference. Another slash across the back for hunters.
Some people would rather starve than use a leg hold.
I don’t understand the idea of parading around a 1/2 dead dog. If your going to kill it, just kill it and then do as you will.
I wouldn’t ruin a guys life over it though.
$250 fine sounds about right. Hope he learned about putting schit like that on social media.
Mooner, I don't often disagree with your thinking, this time I do.
first, I couldn't read the story as it required removing ad blocker, and when I tried it seemed like too much hassle.
second, if as described, the dude ran down a wolf (or any animal) to the point of exhaustion, taped its mouth closed, and paraded it around a bar for "fun", I'm thinking a fine of only $250 is rather light. A severe beating about the head and shoulders with a broom handle, perhaps for a half hour or so, and then a much larger fine along with a few weeks of community service at the local dog pound cleaning kennels would seem more appropriate.
If one of our dogs gets out and is an issue with someone's critters or is running game, shoot the darn thing.
someone tortures it like described for that wolf and they probably should hope the authorities get ahold of them before I do.
If it's a predator bothering something, kill the dang thing as I've had to do here. I don't agree with animal cruelty in any way, shape, or form, be it neglect of a horse in a pasture, or torturing a wolf.
On a happier note, I saw the first swallow here yesterday which makes me wonder whether you're enjoying spring back there compared to where you moved from. Hope all is well.
Just as I thought, the mans life is totally fugged and by his own stupidity.
D$ckweed is still front and center on Drudge today….
ID’d before the world as a “Wyoming Hunter” 😡
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I have to eliminate predators sometimes, living on a cattle farm as I do, but I don't take joy in it. I also hunt. But torturing an animal, any animal, for doing what it's born to do is wrong. That wolf has the same look as a beat-down abused dog, and I've seen it too many times. It's a damn shame the way he treated that wolf and I hope he's tortured in hell continuously by wolves with red hot fangs.
I have to eliminate predators sometimes, living on a cattle farms as I do, but I don't take joy in it. I also hunt. But torturing an animal, any animal, for doing what it's born to do is wrong. That wolf has the same look as a beat-down abused dog, and I've seen it too many times. It's a damn shame the way he treated that wolf and I hope he's tortured in hell continuously by wolves with red hot fangs.
That about sums it up...
I have a special loathing for anyone that tortures animals. 22 into the brain of the wolf and be done with it. POS mother f u c k e r.
I am no expert on Wyoming laws but this would seem to apply.
(ii) Knowingly, and with intent to cause death or undue suffering, beats with cruelty, tortures, torments or mutilates an animal. (b) Felony cruelty to animals is a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than two (2) years, a fine of not more than five thousand dollars ($5,000.00), or both.
Well you ARE correct about one thing, you're no expert on Wyoming law. The law you're quoting only applies to domesticated animals, aka "Pets" and does not apply in this case as Wolves are listed as Predators/Varmints. The wolf was captured in the "Predator" zone so there are no license violations, or such. The WG&F issued a citation for the only statute that they could against him, possession of a live wild animal.
Bad move on this guy's part, absolutely. I'm sure he will pay dearly for his lapse in judgment.
I recall a photograph that ran in a national publication many years ago of a man holding a live Coyote (with it's mouth tied shut) across his lap while setting on the stoop of a cabin in the West. He had taken it from a leghold trap on his trapline and brought it back alive. It was a much celebrated photograph.
The law doesn’t specify domesticated animals. An animal in captivity (either a zoo or captured wildlife) will quite often be considered under animal cruelty laws. Look at the Wyoming law. It clearly differentiates between animals, household pets and livestock. So you can’t say wildlife isn’t protected.
§ 6-3-1002. Cruelty to animals
(a) A person commits cruelty to animals if the person:
(i) Knowingly overrides an animal or drives an animal when overloaded;
(ii) Intentionally or knowingly, unnecessarily injures or beats an animal;
(iii) Knowingly carries an animal in a manner that poses undue risk of injury or death;
(iv) Has the charge and custody of any animal and under circumstances which manifest extreme indifference to the animal's safety, health or life:
(A) Fails to provide it with proper food, drink or protection from the weather adequate for the species;
(B) Abandons the animal. Relinquishment of an animal to a public or private animal shelter or like facility is not a violation of this subparagraph;
(C) In the case of immediate, obvious, serious illness or injury to the animal, fails to provide the animal with appropriate care; or
(D) Keeps any household pet in a manner that results in chronic or repeated serious physical harm to the household pet.
(v) Owns, possesses, keeps or trains fowls or dogs with the intent to allow the dog or fowl to engage in an exhibition of fighting with another dog or fowl;
(vi) For gain causes or allows any dog to fight with another dog or any fowl to fight with another fowl;
(vii) Promotes any dog or fowl fighting;
(viii) Knowingly permits any act prohibited under paragraphs (v) through (vii) of this subsection on any premises under the person's charge or control; or
(ix) Shoots, poisons or otherwise intentionally acts to seriously injure or destroy any livestock or domesticated animal owned by another person while the animal is on property where the animal is authorized to be present.
So this has been bouncing around for many days here in the state on various news media fronts. It's been cited many times in legitimate news sources, that the law does NOT apply to wild Predator varmints.
Can you cite the actual section of law that says it does not apply? A court precedent? Anything?
From the linked article:
“Sublette County Attorney Clayton Melinkovich isn’t so sure Game and Fish is right.
“These [animal cruelty] statutes are very unclear all the way across,” he told WyoFile on Monday. “It does appear that they may apply.”
So the guy glided over the snow with a snowmobile and ran the wolf to exhaustion. The gave it a long torturous death. Kind of like what wolves do to elk and deer all winter. Shouldn’t have taken pictures. Documentation replaces speculation. Zero F’s given for the wolf but the pictures were plain stupid.
Concur. Not a great idea dragging it around, taking pictures etc, and I wouldn't have done that myself, to be sure, but for crying out loud, getting your panties in a wad to the point of calling for jailing or hanging the guy? WTF, are they putting high doses of estrogen in the water? Pretty over the top emotional responses IMO.
OTOH, I've had the 'privilege' to listening for hours one night to a moose bawling while being eaten alive by a wolf, right across the river from my house. Tracking wolf kills and seeing the pieces ripped off the moose in the process, a bit of hindquarter and liver eaten after it finally collapses, and off to the next one...maybe I'm just a little biased
$250 fine would be ok for taking game out of season.
This rises above that by several notches. Jail time would be appropriate in my mind, and hope he gets it.
Also better be watching over his shoulder the rest of his life because his name, address, address of his company is sure out there.
Wonder if he thinks the pic snapped is still cute?
We make laws for people, not animals. We also make laws for people who behave like animals.
And, if that wolf was instead called a husky, or a corgi, you all would be baying for blood.
I've killed multiples of so many.
Wolves, Grizzly Bears, Mountain Lions, etc..etc.etc.
I've trapped them, and shot them.
I never wanted any of them to suffer unnecessarily.
Heartlessness isn't an admirable quality in a human being.
So the guy glided over the snow with a snowmobile and ran the wolf to exhaustion. The gave it a long torturous death. Kind of like what wolves do to elk and deer all winter. Shouldn’t have taken pictures. Documentation replaces speculation. Zero F’s given for the wolf but the pictures were plain stupid.
Concur. Not a great idea dragging it around, taking pictures etc, and I wouldn't have done that myself, to be sure, but for crying out loud, getting your panties in a wad to the point of calling for jailing or hanging the guy? WTF, are they putting high doses of estrogen in the water? Pretty over the top emotional responses IMO.
OTOH, I've had the 'privilege' to listening for hours one night to a moose bawling while being eaten alive by a wolf, right across the river from my house. Tracking wolf kills and seeing the pieces ripped off the moose in the process, a bit of hindquarter and liver eaten after it finally collapses, and off to the next one...maybe I'm just a little biasedMaybe you just forgot that Mother Nature is one nasty, mean and cruel Bitch.
It's nothing compared to what humans do to each other. Not for anything like what he did or what wolves do.
I don’t understand the idea of parading around a 1/2 dead dog. If your going to kill it, just kill it and then do as you will.
I wouldn’t ruin a guys life over it though.
$250 fine sounds about right. Hope he learned about putting schit like that on social media.
Mooner, I don't often disagree with your thinking, this time I do.
first, I couldn't read the story as it required removing ad blocker, and when I tried it seemed like too much hassle.
second, if as described, the dude ran down a wolf (or any animal) to the point of exhaustion, taped its mouth closed, and paraded it around a bar for "fun", I'm thinking a fine of only $250 is rather light. A severe beating about the head and shoulders with a broom handle, perhaps for a half hour or so, and then a much larger fine along with a few weeks of community service at the local dog pound cleaning kennels would seem more appropriate.
If one of our dogs gets out and is an issue with someone's critters or is running game, shoot the darn thing.
someone tortures it like described for that wolf and they probably should hope the authorities get ahold of them before I do.
If it's a predator bothering something, kill the dang thing as I've had to do here. I don't agree with animal cruelty in any way, shape, or form, be it neglect of a horse in a pasture, or torturing a wolf.
On a happier note, I saw the first swallow here yesterday which makes me wonder whether you're enjoying spring back there compared to where you moved from. Hope all is well.
Equating pet dogs to wolves is what got them reintroduced and protected for so long.
Check emotions at the door when it comes to wildlife management.
Disney movies weren't documentaries.
I don’t understand the idea of parading around a 1/2 dead dog. If your going to kill it, just kill it and then do as you will.
I wouldn’t ruin a guys life over it though.
$250 fine sounds about right. Hope he learned about putting schit like that on social media.
Mooner, I don't often disagree with your thinking, this time I do.
first, I couldn't read the story as it required removing ad blocker, and when I tried it seemed like too much hassle.
second, if as described, the dude ran down a wolf (or any animal) to the point of exhaustion, taped its mouth closed, and paraded it around a bar for "fun", I'm thinking a fine of only $250 is rather light. A severe beating about the head and shoulders with a broom handle, perhaps for a half hour or so, and then a much larger fine along with a few weeks of community service at the local dog pound cleaning kennels would seem more appropriate.
If one of our dogs gets out and is an issue with someone's critters or is running game, shoot the darn thing.
someone tortures it like described for that wolf and they probably should hope the authorities get ahold of them before I do.
If it's a predator bothering something, kill the dang thing as I've had to do here. I don't agree with animal cruelty in any way, shape, or form, be it neglect of a horse in a pasture, or torturing a wolf.
On a happier note, I saw the first swallow here yesterday which makes me wonder whether you're enjoying spring back there compared to where you moved from. Hope all is well.
Equating pet dogs to wolves is what got them reintroduced and protected for so long.
Check emotions at the door when it comes to wildlife management.
Disney movies weren't documentaries.
Totally agree about WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT. This wasnt it.
This was a twisted man who inflicted suffering and prolonged the death of an animal for his jollies.
I don’t understand the idea of parading around a 1/2 dead dog. If your going to kill it, just kill it and then do as you will.
I wouldn’t ruin a guys life over it though.
$250 fine sounds about right. Hope he learned about putting schit like that on social media.
Mooner, I don't often disagree with your thinking, this time I do.
first, I couldn't read the story as it required removing ad blocker, and when I tried it seemed like too much hassle.
second, if as described, the dude ran down a wolf (or any animal) to the point of exhaustion, taped its mouth closed, and paraded it around a bar for "fun", I'm thinking a fine of only $250 is rather light. A severe beating about the head and shoulders with a broom handle, perhaps for a half hour or so, and then a much larger fine along with a few weeks of community service at the local dog pound cleaning kennels would seem more appropriate.
If one of our dogs gets out and is an issue with someone's critters or is running game, shoot the darn thing.
someone tortures it like described for that wolf and they probably should hope the authorities get ahold of them before I do.
If it's a predator bothering something, kill the dang thing as I've had to do here. I don't agree with animal cruelty in any way, shape, or form, be it neglect of a horse in a pasture, or torturing a wolf.
On a happier note, I saw the first swallow here yesterday which makes me wonder whether you're enjoying spring back there compared to where you moved from. Hope all is well.
Equating pet dogs to wolves is what got them reintroduced and protected for so long.
Check emotions at the door when it comes to wildlife management.
Disney movies weren't documentaries.
Totally agree about WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT. This wasnt it.
This was a twisted man who inflicted suffering and prolonged the death of an animal for his jollies.
Ever eaten lobster?
"There’s a reason the FBI keeps track of cases of cruelty to animals: It’s often a precursor to escalated levels of violence, most famously illustrated by serial killers and mass shooters such as Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, and Nikolas Cruz, who abused animals before attacking humans.
Studies have shown that animal abuse is a better predictor of sexual assault than previous convictions for homicide, arson, or weapons offenses: Psychology Today reported that 70% of criminals who were most violent to humans in one prison also had a history of animal abuse, and other studies have found that 43% of school shooters have a history of abusing animals. Animal abuse is also one of the most significant factors in someone’s becoming a domestic abuser."
Lots of people get worked up over a dead wolf who dont give a flying fûck about human children being aborted and how that process happens.
Lots of people get worked up over a dead wolf who dont give a flying fûck about human children being aborted and how that process happens.
You’ve got a point there👍
I'm against murdering unborn children. I think intentional torture of animals is sick and twisted. I must be a domestic terrorist.
First off, I would not have done what this guy did. I would have shot it immediately upon capture.
But in reality, people have been paid to capture and transport live wild animals for a couple hundred years. The zoos used to be full of them. Maybe there are some still in zoos, I don't know.
I really enjoyed John Wayne's "Hatari". And Clark Gable's "Misfits"
It appears to be okay if it is .gov who does the capturing and transporting of live wild animals. How did those damned wolves get here from Alaska in the first place? Not to mention the Elk, Sheep, Goats, Deer, and Bear which get relocated on a regular basis.
I have known folks who have collected coyotes under the skies of their snowmobiles for forty years. Dogs do not run very fast in three or four feet of snow. The sled will do 90 mph plus. The dog does not run far enough, as a rule, to get tired.
Looking at the photos shown here, I do not see any signs of abuse. If a leg was broken at capture, I do not see it. But if it was the dog should have been put down immediately.
Yes, a $250 fine for being a dumb ass, and behaving in a socially unacceptable manner, in today's liberal environment seems about appropriate.
IF you have ever captured a wolf, and taped its mouth shut, then hauled it down to your local tavern to show off to your buddies........ You Might Be a Redneck!
There’s a vet drug called Ketamine that is now a favourite of druggies (it’s a chemical sister of Angel Dust). However, it was and still is used for tranquilizing animals. Like most abused drugs, it’s a disassociative, “out of body”.
However, when it was first developed it was used by itself. They soon discovered that rather than sedating animals or creating disassociation, it basically paralyzed them and they remained aware of everything that was happening to them. Instead of dying of the drug, they’d die from shock because their natural inclination is to flee or fight captivity and they couldn’t do either. They figured out that instead of being gentle in capture, they were being cruel as he!!. So it’s no longer used by itself, but used with a sedative.
Whether you like wolves or not (and face it, they’re just doing what comes naturally, there’s nothing evil about them), only an idiot would get his jollies by parading a fully conscious and terrified animal the way this idiot did.
AFA transporting wildlife, yeah, there’s been a lot of it, but the vast majority done with sedatives (really think you can keep an elephant confined in a wooden crate?). Things have gotten better in a lot of ways over the years. Absolutely no reason to equate what happened then to what this azzwhole did.
Looking at the photos shown here, I do not see any signs of abuse. If a leg was broken at capture, I do not see it. But if it was the dog should have been put down immediately.
Yes, a $250 fine for being a dumb ass, and behaving in a socially unacceptable manner, in today's liberal environment seems about appropriate.
IF you have ever captured a wolf, and taped its mouth shut, then hauled it down to your local tavern to show off to your buddies........ You Might Be a Redneck!
+1...
I don’t understand the idea of parading around a 1/2 dead dog. If your going to kill it, just kill it and then do as you will.
I wouldn’t ruin a guys life over it though.
$250 fine sounds about right. Hope he learned about putting schit like that on social media.
Mooner, I don't often disagree with your thinking, this time I do.
first, I couldn't read the story as it required removing ad blocker, and when I tried it seemed like too much hassle.
second, if as described, the dude ran down a wolf (or any animal) to the point of exhaustion, taped its mouth closed, and paraded it around a bar for "fun", I'm thinking a fine of only $250 is rather light. A severe beating about the head and shoulders with a broom handle, perhaps for a half hour or so, and then a much larger fine along with a few weeks of community service at the local dog pound cleaning kennels would seem more appropriate.
If one of our dogs gets out and is an issue with someone's critters or is running game, shoot the darn thing.
someone tortures it like described for that wolf and they probably should hope the authorities get ahold of them before I do.
If it's a predator bothering something, kill the dang thing as I've had to do here. I don't agree with animal cruelty in any way, shape, or form, be it neglect of a horse in a pasture, or torturing a wolf.
On a happier note, I saw the first swallow here yesterday which makes me wonder whether you're enjoying spring back there compared to where you moved from. Hope all is well.
Equating pet dogs to wolves is what got them reintroduced and protected for so long.
Check emotions at the door when it comes to wildlife management.
Disney movies weren't documentaries.
Gruff,
what that fellow did has nothing to do with "wildlife management".
As I stated
If it's a predator bothering something, kill the dang thing as I've had to do here. I don't agree with animal cruelty in any way, shape, or form, be it neglect of a horse in a pasture, or torturing a wolf.
I'll stand by that.
I wonder if the guy has a "go-fundme" set up to help with the fine? Asking for a friend.