Open letter to Rick Bin ------------------ Dear Rick Bin:
Thank you for providing a forum for hunters and shooters to discuss their hobby and buy, sell and swap equipment. It is a commercial website to promote McMillan gunstocks, and has other sponsors in the optics, truck, ATV and gear businesses.
The problem is that the discussion is unmoderated. Like many such forums on the Internet, the lack of controls attracts individuals whose intent is to disrupt serious and friendly conversation, and to fraternize with similar trouble makers. They are like the losers in school who become bullies, and here, they can avoid growing up. A few ringleaders try to provoke explanations which they can degrade into argument and name-calling, then invite the gang in to pile on. They even stalk and personally attack other posters who stand up to them, to drive them out of the web site.
Sadly, this is condoned and even encouraged by some of those who write articles and earn a livelihood by writing. Outfitters and guides with solid reputations are defamed here daily. Professionals like myself are defamed by falsehoods about our work by anonymous posters who do not even know us.
I spoke with an attorney who is a close friend, specializing in First Amendment cases, libel, and slander in public media. He was especially concerned about a tactic used by these disruptive individuals to subject others to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
Photos of real people are posted and the audience is falsely told that this is so-and-so, the target of the gang. Many of these people are mentally retarded, handicapped, or otherwise chronically disabled. Some are just innocent hunters and fishermen who never heard of, or visited 24HourCampfire.
Targets of this hatred whose identities are unknown, are accused of being someone on another web forum, or some person whose name or career loosely matches them. The names of unrelated people in other Internet forums, business people, engineers, architects, and other professionals have been posted on 24HourCampfire for the purpose of subjecting them to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
After just one minute of observing posts and the demeaning soft-core pornographic images of women posted here, my attorney said he not only would never join this site, but would never visit it again.
The website, 24HourCampfire, has become a public nuisance. At some point, these innocent people outside this forum may become aware they are being used, ridiculed and attacked with vicious falsehoods, and some of them may take legal action against the owners and businesses sponsoring this website. No one can blame them for that.
I do not want to be, in any way, the cause or excuse for these social misfits to defame and abuse others, and to bring harm to the owners of this enterprise and the underlying businesses which use it for marketing and public relations. Nor do I want to be caught in the middle of such litigation. Last night, I decided to stop reading and responding to these attacks on me in an attempt to defend my opinions and my reputation. Today, I am ceasing to post anything here. Please close my account and remove my personal information immediately.
Thank you for your noble ideas in starting this web site and your efforts to make it work. I hope you clean it up before a few trespassers ruin things for everyone, including 24hourcampfire.com, Inc and its sponsors.
Open letter to Rick Bin ------------------ Dear Rick Bin:
Thank you for providing a forum for hunters and shooters to discuss their hobby and buy, sell and swap equipment. It is a commercial website to promote McMillan gunstocks, and has other sponsors in the optics, truck, ATV and gear businesses.
The problem is that the discussion is unmoderated. Like many such forums on the Internet, the lack of controls attracts individuals whose intent is to disrupt serious and friendly conversation, and to fraternize with similar trouble makers. They are like the losers in school who become bullies, and here, they can avoid growing up. A few ringleaders try to provoke explanations which they can degrade into argument and name-calling, then invite the gang in to pile on. They even stalk and personally attack other posters who stand up to them, to drive them out of the web site.
Sadly, this is condoned and even encouraged by some of those who write articles and earn a livelihood by writing. Outfitters and guides with solid reputations are defamed here daily. Professionals like myself are defamed by falsehoods about our work by anonymous posters who do not even know us.
I spoke with an attorney who is a close friend, specializing in First Amendment cases, libel, and slander in public media. He was especially concerned about a tactic used by these disruptive individuals to subject others to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
Photos of real people are posted and the audience is falsely told that this is so-and-so, the target of the gang. Many of these people are mentally retarded, handicapped, or otherwise chronically disabled. Some are just innocent hunters and fishermen who never heard of, or visited 24HourCampfire.
Targets of this hatred whose identities are unknown, are accused of being someone on another web forum, or some person whose name or career loosely matches them. The names of unrelated people in other Internet forums, business people, engineers, architects, and other professionals have been posted on 24HourCampfire for the purpose of subjecting them to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
After just one minute of observing posts and the demeaning soft-core pornographic images of women posted here, my attorney said he not only would never join this site, but would never visit it again.
The website, 24HourCampfire, has become a public nuisance. At some point, these innocent people outside this forum may become aware they are being used, ridiculed and attacked with vicious falsehoods, and some of them may take legal action against the owners and businesses sponsoring this website. No one can blame them for that.
I do not want to be, in any way, the cause or excuse for these social misfits to defame and abuse others, and to bring harm to the owners of this enterprise and the underlying businesses which use it for marketing and public relations. Nor do I want to be caught in the middle of such litigation. Last night, I decided to stop reading and responding to these attacks on me in an attempt to defend my opinions and my reputation. Today, I am ceasing to post anything here. Please close my account and remove my personal information immediately.
Thank you for your noble ideas in starting this web site and your efforts to make it work. I hope you clean it up before a few trespassers ruin things for everyone, including 24hourcampfire.com, Inc and its sponsors.
Open letter to Rick Bin ------------------ Dear Rick Bin:
Thank you for providing a forum for hunters and shooters to discuss their hobby and buy, sell and swap equipment. It is a commercial website to promote McMillan gunstocks, and has other sponsors in the optics, truck, ATV and gear businesses.
The problem is that the discussion is unmoderated. Like many such forums on the Internet, the lack of controls attracts individuals whose intent is to disrupt serious and friendly conversation, and to fraternize with similar trouble makers. They are like the losers in school who become bullies, and here, they can avoid growing up. A few ringleaders try to provoke explanations which they can degrade into argument and name-calling, then invite the gang in to pile on. They even stalk and personally attack other posters who stand up to them, to drive them out of the web site.
Sadly, this is condoned and even encouraged by some of those who write articles and earn a livelihood by writing. Outfitters and guides with solid reputations are defamed here daily. Professionals like myself are defamed by falsehoods about our work by anonymous posters who do not even know us.
I spoke with an attorney who is a close friend, specializing in First Amendment cases, libel, and slander in public media. He was especially concerned about a tactic used by these disruptive individuals to subject others to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
Photos of real people are posted and the audience is falsely told that this is so-and-so, the target of the gang. Many of these people are mentally retarded, handicapped, or otherwise chronically disabled. Some are just innocent hunters and fishermen who never heard of, or visited 24HourCampfire.
Targets of this hatred whose identities are unknown, are accused of being someone on another web forum, or some person whose name or career loosely matches them. The names of unrelated people in other Internet forums, business people, engineers, architects, and other professionals have been posted on 24HourCampfire for the purpose of subjecting them to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
After just one minute of observing posts and the demeaning soft-core pornographic images of women posted here, my attorney said he not only would never join this site, but would never visit it again.
The website, 24HourCampfire, has become a public nuisance. At some point, these innocent people outside this forum may become aware they are being used, ridiculed and attacked with vicious falsehoods, and some of them may take legal action against the owners and businesses sponsoring this website. No one can blame them for that.
I do not want to be, in any way, the cause or excuse for these social misfits to defame and abuse others, and to bring harm to the owners of this enterprise and the underlying businesses which use it for marketing and public relations. Nor do I want to be caught in the middle of such litigation. Last night, I decided to stop reading and responding to these attacks on me in an attempt to defend my opinions and my reputation. Today, I am ceasing to post anything here. Please close my account and remove my personal information immediately.
Thank you for your noble ideas in starting this web site and your efforts to make it work. I hope you clean it up before a few trespassers ruin things for everyone, including 24hourcampfire.com, Inc and its sponsors.
Open letter to Rick Bin ------------------ Dear Rick Bin:
Thank you for providing a forum for hunters and shooters to discuss their hobby and buy, sell and swap equipment. It is a commercial website to promote McMillan gunstocks, and has other sponsors in the optics, truck, ATV and gear businesses.
The problem is that the discussion is unmoderated. Like many such forums on the Internet, the lack of controls attracts individuals whose intent is to disrupt serious and friendly conversation, and to fraternize with similar trouble makers. They are like the losers in school who become bullies, and here, they can avoid growing up. A few ringleaders try to provoke explanations which they can degrade into argument and name-calling, then invite the gang in to pile on. They even stalk and personally attack other posters who stand up to them, to drive them out of the web site.
Sadly, this is condoned and even encouraged by some of those who write articles and earn a livelihood by writing. Outfitters and guides with solid reputations are defamed here daily. Professionals like myself are defamed by falsehoods about our work by anonymous posters who do not even know us.
I spoke with an attorney who is a close friend, specializing in First Amendment cases, libel, and slander in public media. He was especially concerned about a tactic used by these disruptive individuals to subject others to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
Photos of real people are posted and the audience is falsely told that this is so-and-so, the target of the gang. Many of these people are mentally retarded, handicapped, or otherwise chronically disabled. Some are just innocent hunters and fishermen who never heard of, or visited 24HourCampfire.
Targets of this hatred whose identities are unknown, are accused of being someone on another web forum, or some person whose name or career loosely matches them. The names of unrelated people in other Internet forums, business people, engineers, architects, and other professionals have been posted on 24HourCampfire for the purpose of subjecting them to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
After just one minute of observing posts and the demeaning soft-core pornographic images of women posted here, my attorney said he not only would never join this site, but would never visit it again.
The website, 24HourCampfire, has become a public nuisance. At some point, these innocent people outside this forum may become aware they are being used, ridiculed and attacked with vicious falsehoods, and some of them may take legal action against the owners and businesses sponsoring this website. No one can blame them for that.
I do not want to be, in any way, the cause or excuse for these social misfits to defame and abuse others, and to bring harm to the owners of this enterprise and the underlying businesses which use it for marketing and public relations. Nor do I want to be caught in the middle of such litigation. Last night, I decided to stop reading and responding to these attacks on me in an attempt to defend my opinions and my reputation. Today, I am ceasing to post anything here. Please close my account and remove my personal information immediately.
Thank you for your noble ideas in starting this web site and your efforts to make it work. I hope you clean it up before a few trespassers ruin things for everyone, including 24hourcampfire.com, Inc and its sponsors.
Open letter to Rick Bin ------------------ Dear Rick Bin:
Thank you for providing a forum for hunters and shooters to discuss their hobby and buy, sell and swap equipment. It is a commercial website to promote McMillan gunstocks, and has other sponsors in the optics, truck, ATV and gear businesses.
The problem is that the discussion is unmoderated. Like many such forums on the Internet, the lack of controls attracts individuals whose intent is to disrupt serious and friendly conversation, and to fraternize with similar trouble makers. They are like the losers in school who become bullies, and here, they can avoid growing up. A few ringleaders try to provoke explanations which they can degrade into argument and name-calling, then invite the gang in to pile on. They even stalk and personally attack other posters who stand up to them, to drive them out of the web site.
Sadly, this is condoned and even encouraged by some of those who write articles and earn a livelihood by writing. Outfitters and guides with solid reputations are defamed here daily. Professionals like myself are defamed by falsehoods about our work by anonymous posters who do not even know us.
I spoke with an attorney who is a close friend, specializing in First Amendment cases, libel, and slander in public media. He was especially concerned about a tactic used by these disruptive individuals to subject others to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
Photos of real people are posted and the audience is falsely told that this is so-and-so, the target of the gang. Many of these people are mentally retarded, handicapped, or otherwise chronically disabled. Some are just innocent hunters and fishermen who never heard of, or visited 24HourCampfire.
Targets of this hatred whose identities are unknown, are accused of being someone on another web forum, or some person whose name or career loosely matches them. The names of unrelated people in other Internet forums, business people, engineers, architects, and other professionals have been posted on 24HourCampfire for the purpose of subjecting them to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
After just one minute of observing posts and the demeaning soft-core pornographic images of women posted here, my attorney said he not only would never join this site, but would never visit it again.
The website, 24HourCampfire, has become a public nuisance. At some point, these innocent people outside this forum may become aware they are being used, ridiculed and attacked with vicious falsehoods, and some of them may take legal action against the owners and businesses sponsoring this website. No one can blame them for that.
I do not want to be, in any way, the cause or excuse for these social misfits to defame and abuse others, and to bring harm to the owners of this enterprise and the underlying businesses which use it for marketing and public relations. Nor do I want to be caught in the middle of such litigation. Last night, I decided to stop reading and responding to these attacks on me in an attempt to defend my opinions and my reputation. Today, I am ceasing to post anything here. Please close my account and remove my personal information immediately.
Thank you for your noble ideas in starting this web site and your efforts to make it work. I hope you clean it up before a few trespassers ruin things for everyone, including 24hourcampfire.com, Inc and its sponsors.
Wow! I like it here and have actually met folks and made friends I wouldn't have got to know otherwise. There may be one or two wackos, but you have those on any internet site and they usually don't last long.
Interesting that you've posted this here rather than just email Rick. I think you're really just looking for more drama and trying to stir up reactions. I suspect you'll get exactly what you asked for and that although you've said you're ceasing to post and asked that your account be closed, the fact that you remain online is more telling that your childish little post. You are simply like the little boy who runs and tattles to the teacher at recess because you don't like how the game is being played.
I spoke with an attorney who is a close friend, specializing in First Amendment cases, libel, and slander in public media. He was especially concerned about a tactic used by these disruptive individuals to subject others to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
must be a chitty lawyer.......1st Amendment issues have nothing to do with a privately owned internet site.....it only covers what the government does......kinda like i can run or not run what i want in my newspaper and im not hurting anyones 1st Amendment rights.....
Open letter to Rick Bin ------------------ Dear Rick Bin:
Thank you for providing a forum for hunters and shooters to discuss their hobby and buy, sell and swap equipment. It is a commercial website to promote McMillan gunstocks, and has other sponsors in the optics, truck, ATV and gear businesses.
The problem is that the discussion is unmoderated. Like many such forums on the Internet, the lack of controls attracts individuals whose intent is to disrupt serious and friendly conversation, and to fraternize with similar trouble makers. They are like the losers in school who become bullies, and here, they can avoid growing up. A few ringleaders try to provoke explanations which they can degrade into argument and name-calling, then invite the gang in to pile on. They even stalk and personally attack other posters who stand up to them, to drive them out of the web site.
Sadly, this is condoned and even encouraged by some of those who write articles and earn a livelihood by writing. Outfitters and guides with solid reputations are defamed here daily. Professionals like myself are defamed by falsehoods about our work by anonymous posters who do not even know us.
I spoke with an attorney who is a close friend, specializing in First Amendment cases, libel, and slander in public media. He was especially concerned about a tactic used by these disruptive individuals to subject others to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
Photos of real people are posted and the audience is falsely told that this is so-and-so, the target of the gang. Many of these people are mentally retarded, handicapped, or otherwise chronically disabled. Some are just innocent hunters and fishermen who never heard of, or visited 24HourCampfire.
Targets of this hatred whose identities are unknown, are accused of being someone on another web forum, or some person whose name or career loosely matches them. The names of unrelated people in other Internet forums, business people, engineers, architects, and other professionals have been posted on 24HourCampfire for the purpose of subjecting them to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
After just one minute of observing posts and the demeaning soft-core pornographic images of women posted here, my attorney said he not only would never join this site, but would never visit it again.
The website, 24HourCampfire, has become a public nuisance. At some point, these innocent people outside this forum may become aware they are being used, ridiculed and attacked with vicious falsehoods, and some of them may take legal action against the owners and businesses sponsoring this website. No one can blame them for that.
I do not want to be, in any way, the cause or excuse for these social misfits to defame and abuse others, and to bring harm to the owners of this enterprise and the underlying businesses which use it for marketing and public relations. Nor do I want to be caught in the middle of such litigation. Last night, I decided to stop reading and responding to these attacks on me in an attempt to defend my opinions and my reputation. Today, I am ceasing to post anything here. Please close my account and remove my personal information immediately.
Thank you for your noble ideas in starting this web site and your efforts to make it work. I hope you clean it up before a few trespassers ruin things for everyone, including 24hourcampfire.com, Inc and its sponsors.
Lee24
I had to temporarily "unignore" Lee24 to see what everybody was so happy about..
Anyway, now that I read the post, I thought somebody should quote this so Lee24 can't delete it...
Open letter to Rick Bin ------------------ Dear Rick Bin:
Thank you for providing a forum for hunters and shooters to discuss their hobby and buy, sell and swap equipment. It is a commercial website to promote McMillan gunstocks, and has other sponsors in the optics, truck, ATV and gear businesses.
The problem is that the discussion is unmoderated. Like many such forums on the Internet, the lack of controls attracts individuals whose intent is to disrupt serious and friendly conversation, and to fraternize with similar trouble makers. They are like the losers in school who become bullies, and here, they can avoid growing up. A few ringleaders try to provoke explanations which they can degrade into argument and name-calling, then invite the gang in to pile on. They even stalk and personally attack other posters who stand up to them, to drive them out of the web site.
Sadly, this is condoned and even encouraged by some of those who write articles and earn a livelihood by writing. Outfitters and guides with solid reputations are defamed here daily. Professionals like myself are defamed by falsehoods about our work by anonymous posters who do not even know us.
I spoke with an attorney who is a close friend, specializing in First Amendment cases, libel, and slander in public media. He was especially concerned about a tactic used by these disruptive individuals to subject others to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
Photos of real people are posted and the audience is falsely told that this is so-and-so, the target of the gang. Many of these people are mentally retarded, handicapped, or otherwise chronically disabled. Some are just innocent hunters and fishermen who never heard of, or visited 24HourCampfire.
Targets of this hatred whose identities are unknown, are accused of being someone on another web forum, or some person whose name or career loosely matches them. The names of unrelated people in other Internet forums, business people, engineers, architects, and other professionals have been posted on 24HourCampfire for the purpose of subjecting them to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
After just one minute of observing posts and the demeaning soft-core pornographic images of women posted here, my attorney said he not only would never join this site, but would never visit it again.
The website, 24HourCampfire, has become a public nuisance. At some point, these innocent people outside this forum may become aware they are being used, ridiculed and attacked with vicious falsehoods, and some of them may take legal action against the owners and businesses sponsoring this website. No one can blame them for that.
I do not want to be, in any way, the cause or excuse for these social misfits to defame and abuse others, and to bring harm to the owners of this enterprise and the underlying businesses which use it for marketing and public relations. Nor do I want to be caught in the middle of such litigation. Last night, I decided to stop reading and responding to these attacks on me in an attempt to defend my opinions and my reputation. Today, I am ceasing to post anything here. Please close my account and remove my personal information immediately.
Thank you for your noble ideas in starting this web site and your efforts to make it work. I hope you clean it up before a few trespassers ruin things for everyone, including 24hourcampfire.com, Inc and its sponsors.
Though he makes some points, he brought much of it on himself with his constant arguing with those who insult him . I would have left years ago for just a percentage of crap he took.
But Lee does raise a point. I saw a new poster just today with only 42 posts, insulted for putting forth a well written, well thought out opinion, and it rolled on by without comment because people around here have desensitized themselves to these rude posts.
Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!
+1....
22 minutes later and he's still logged on.
Go figure he can't even tell the truth about leaving.........
dang just once I was hopin he was telling the truth bout something!
I agree with Lee, if some of the regulars here were hounding regular guys, it would be a travesty to this site and all it provides in the way of knowledge and companionship.
fortunately the only guys I see stalked and hunted down are Lee24 and perhaps Maser.
one is a guy that is so full of turkey feathers that if not run off or called on his BS, he would be likely to post information under the guise of him being expert on all things that could get someone hurt or cost them money.
the other was given a chance to grow up and become a part of this online community but failed miserably at that attempt.
none of the regulars or anyone with respect for the shooting sports desire to have this individual misconstrue that he or his ilk are "the future of the shooting sports" as he states in his sig line.
we're all hoping his kid has a future, but he's off to a rough start with a guy that likes to wet his pants and post it on youtube or pose in a bunny costume as his dad.
Lee24 it's an awful thing to call an honest man a liar, tis fighting words. But calling a liar a liar is perfectly acceptable and should be encouraged.
hope both those guys get the professional help they need.
and yes Rick Bin, thanks again for providing such a wonderful place for outdoorsmen and women to gather and discus all things.
Open letter to Rick Bin ------------------ Dear Rick Bin:
Thank you for providing a forum for hunters and shooters to discuss their hobby and buy, sell and swap equipment. It is a commercial website to promote McMillan gunstocks, and has other sponsors in the optics, truck, ATV and gear businesses.
The problem is that the discussion is unmoderated. Like many such forums on the Internet, the lack of controls attracts individuals whose intent is to disrupt serious and friendly conversation, and to fraternize with similar trouble makers. They are like the losers in school who become bullies, and here, they can avoid growing up. A few ringleaders try to provoke explanations which they can degrade into argument and name-calling, then invite the gang in to pile on. They even stalk and personally attack other posters who stand up to them, to drive them out of the web site.
Sadly, this is condoned and even encouraged by some of those who write articles and earn a livelihood by writing. Outfitters and guides with solid reputations are defamed here daily. Professionals like myself are defamed by falsehoods about our work by anonymous posters who do not even know us.
I spoke with an attorney who is a close friend, specializing in First Amendment cases, libel, and slander in public media. He was especially concerned about a tactic used by these disruptive individuals to subject others to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
Photos of real people are posted and the audience is falsely told that this is so-and-so, the target of the gang. Many of these people are mentally retarded, handicapped, or otherwise chronically disabled. Some are just innocent hunters and fishermen who never heard of, or visited 24HourCampfire.
Targets of this hatred whose identities are unknown, are accused of being someone on another web forum, or some person whose name or career loosely matches them. The names of unrelated people in other Internet forums, business people, engineers, architects, and other professionals have been posted on 24HourCampfire for the purpose of subjecting them to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
After just one minute of observing posts and the demeaning soft-core pornographic images of women posted here, my attorney said he not only would never join this site, but would never visit it again.
The website, 24HourCampfire, has become a public nuisance. At some point, these innocent people outside this forum may become aware they are being used, ridiculed and attacked with vicious falsehoods, and some of them may take legal action against the owners and businesses sponsoring this website. No one can blame them for that.
I do not want to be, in any way, the cause or excuse for these social misfits to defame and abuse others, and to bring harm to the owners of this enterprise and the underlying businesses which use it for marketing and public relations. Nor do I want to be caught in the middle of such litigation. Last night, I decided to stop reading and responding to these attacks on me in an attempt to defend my opinions and my reputation. Today, I am ceasing to post anything here. Please close my account and remove my personal information immediately.
Thank you for your noble ideas in starting this web site and your efforts to make it work. I hope you clean it up before a few trespassers ruin things for everyone, including 24hourcampfire.com, Inc and its sponsors.
Open letter to Rick Bin ------------------ Dear Rick Bin:
Thank you for providing a forum for hunters and shooters to discuss their hobby and buy, sell and swap equipment. It is a commercial website to promote McMillan gunstocks, and has other sponsors in the optics, truck, ATV and gear businesses.
The problem is that the discussion is unmoderated. Like many such forums on the Internet, the lack of controls attracts individuals whose intent is to disrupt serious and friendly conversation, and to fraternize with similar trouble makers. They are like the losers in school who become bullies, and here, they can avoid growing up. A few ringleaders try to provoke explanations which they can degrade into argument and name-calling, then invite the gang in to pile on. They even stalk and personally attack other posters who stand up to them, to drive them out of the web site.
Sadly, this is condoned and even encouraged by some of those who write articles and earn a livelihood by writing. Outfitters and guides with solid reputations are defamed here daily. Professionals like myself are defamed by falsehoods about our work by anonymous posters who do not even know us.
I spoke with an attorney who is a close friend, specializing in First Amendment cases, libel, and slander in public media. He was especially concerned about a tactic used by these disruptive individuals to subject others to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
Photos of real people are posted and the audience is falsely told that this is so-and-so, the target of the gang. Many of these people are mentally retarded, handicapped, or otherwise chronically disabled. Some are just innocent hunters and fishermen who never heard of, or visited 24HourCampfire.
Targets of this hatred whose identities are unknown, are accused of being someone on another web forum, or some person whose name or career loosely matches them. The names of unrelated people in other Internet forums, business people, engineers, architects, and other professionals have been posted on 24HourCampfire for the purpose of subjecting them to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
After just one minute of observing posts and the demeaning soft-core pornographic images of women posted here, my attorney said he not only would never join this site, but would never visit it again.
The website, 24HourCampfire, has become a public nuisance. At some point, these innocent people outside this forum may become aware they are being used, ridiculed and attacked with vicious falsehoods, and some of them may take legal action against the owners and businesses sponsoring this website. No one can blame them for that.
I do not want to be, in any way, the cause or excuse for these social misfits to defame and abuse others, and to bring harm to the owners of this enterprise and the underlying businesses which use it for marketing and public relations. Nor do I want to be caught in the middle of such litigation. Last night, I decided to stop reading and responding to these attacks on me in an attempt to defend my opinions and my reputation. Today, I am ceasing to post anything here. Please close my account and remove my personal information immediately.
Thank you for your noble ideas in starting this web site and your efforts to make it work. I hope you clean it up before a few trespassers ruin things for everyone, including 24hourcampfire.com, Inc and its sponsors.
Lee24
Well...bye.
LOL, as soon as I saw the post(s) by Lee, I knew this was coming from Cole. Thanks for not disappointing !
Now you turds have done it. Where shall we go for entertainment now? Who can we spar with and make fun of? How am I ever suppose to find the enigmatic SC made Winchester? Kill joys!
A search was done for "LEE", "south carolina", and "engineer", along with other selected pieces of [bleep], and came upon a political forum in SC, where the guy Lee (last name withheld) spews forth with the same attitude and rhetoric as our Lee24. Claims to be a consulting engineer.
Found a "Lee (last name withheld at this point)" at engineeringexchange with similar experiential claims, and no evidence to back it up, though there is no "Lee (last name withheld)", and only two references at all in South Carolina as being professional engineers with the same last name as the one withheld, and neither are named anything close to "Lee".
A moderator at another forum whom I know verified that there is someone there was logged in as LeeinSC, and being an ass. LeeinSC also made comments about his discussion at huntamerica.com where he is LeeinSC. That Lee makes claims to guns like Lee24.
Login info there comes back to Lee (last name withheld) located in SC.
LeeinSC is the photobucket account of Lee24, and LeeinSC on the other forums.
I think it's going to get my vote for the #1 Stupidest post ever.
What do you guys think?........................DJ
I think you're dead on correct. It's really kinda sad when someone is so far out of touch with reality that they can't even begin to see the problem. What self respecting person would have so aggressively sought that level of negative attention.
Though he makes some points, he brought much of it on himself with his constant arguing with those who insult him . I would have left years ago for just a percentage of crap he took.
But Lee does raise a point. I saw a new poster just today with only 42 posts, insulted for putting forth a well written, well thought out opinion, and it rolled on by without comment because people around here have desensitized themselves to these rude posts.
you are wrong yet again Barkoff. My riposte was ignored because it was true.
Post an open letter to the site owner to say that you got a little sand in your vagina... Being that your a pathological liar who routinely has bullshit called on you and all....
Good riddance assclown. PLEASE stay gone this time
How do you guys feel about an auction of sorts for a 416 Super Express in Lee's honor? This was the rifle I put on the block for proof of his Columbia wonder that never was. It'll be a chance to own a piece of history.
How do you guys feel about an auction of sorts for a 416 Super Express in Lee's honor? This was the rifle I put on the block for proof of his Columbia wonder that never was. It'll be a chance to own a piece of history.
Open letter to Rick Bin ------------------ Dear Rick Bin:
Thank you for providing a forum for hunters and shooters to discuss their hobby and buy, sell and swap equipment. It is a commercial website to promote McMillan gunstocks, and has other sponsors in the optics, truck, ATV and gear businesses.
The problem is that the discussion is unmoderated. Like many such forums on the Internet, the lack of controls attracts individuals whose intent is to disrupt serious and friendly conversation, and to fraternize with similar trouble makers. They are like the losers in school who become bullies, and here, they can avoid growing up. A few ringleaders try to provoke explanations which they can degrade into argument and name-calling, then invite the gang in to pile on. They even stalk and personally attack other posters who stand up to them, to drive them out of the web site.
Sadly, this is condoned and even encouraged by some of those who write articles and earn a livelihood by writing. Outfitters and guides with solid reputations are defamed here daily. Professionals like myself are defamed by falsehoods about our work by anonymous posters who do not even know us.
I spoke with an attorney who is a close friend, specializing in First Amendment cases, libel, and slander in public media. He was especially concerned about a tactic used by these disruptive individuals to subject others to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
Photos of real people are posted and the audience is falsely told that this is so-and-so, the target of the gang. Many of these people are mentally retarded, handicapped, or otherwise chronically disabled. Some are just innocent hunters and fishermen who never heard of, or visited 24HourCampfire.
Targets of this hatred whose identities are unknown, are accused of being someone on another web forum, or some person whose name or career loosely matches them. The names of unrelated people in other Internet forums, business people, engineers, architects, and other professionals have been posted on 24HourCampfire for the purpose of subjecting them to hatred, ridicule and contempt.
After just one minute of observing posts and the demeaning soft-core pornographic images of women posted here, my attorney said he not only would never join this site, but would never visit it again.
The website, 24HourCampfire, has become a public nuisance. At some point, these innocent people outside this forum may become aware they are being used, ridiculed and attacked with vicious falsehoods, and some of them may take legal action against the owners and businesses sponsoring this website. No one can blame them for that.
I do not want to be, in any way, the cause or excuse for these social misfits to defame and abuse others, and to bring harm to the owners of this enterprise and the underlying businesses which use it for marketing and public relations. Nor do I want to be caught in the middle of such litigation. Last night, I decided to stop reading and responding to these attacks on me in an attempt to defend my opinions and my reputation. Today, I am ceasing to post anything here. Please close my account and remove my personal information immediately.
Thank you for your noble ideas in starting this web site and your efforts to make it work. I hope you clean it up before a few trespassers ruin things for everyone, including 24hourcampfire.com, Inc and its sponsors.
Lee24
Dad finally found you using the computer eh? Maybe when you get bigger you can get your own.
I will miss the entertainment you bring here. It's unmatched....even by the "big kids".
The scary part is that Lee24 probably can't stay away and his saying he is leaving is just his doing more of what he does best: Lie about himself to get attention.
The scary part is that Lee24 probably can't stay away and his saying he is leaving is just his doing more of what he does best: Lie about himself to get attention.
Steve
Yep. Seems that those who post the big farewells are always back.
I've stayed on the sidelines through all of this but its really been a momentous week. Brown won in Mass., Pelosi backs down on "health care," SCOTUS guts most of McCain-Feingold and now this.
After just one minute of observing posts and the demeaning soft-core pornographic images of women posted here, my attorney said he not only would never join this site, but would never visit it again.
Lee24
Your lawyer sounds like he's a lot of fun to hang out with.
After just one minute of observing posts and the demeaning soft-core pornographic images of women posted here, my attorney said he not only would never join this site, but would never visit it again.
Lee24
Your lawyer sounds like he's a lot of fun to hang out with.
Brian.
and more of a puzzy than my wife......she dont seem to care about them.....half the time she gets a kick out of the comments 'bout them aswell.....
I will hand it to him, he knows more about how to make people his bitches, and has a bigger harem of them at 24hcf, than just about anybody elve I've seen.
Lee24 is a really unfortunate individual, because he lacks the courage to be what he claims to be. He is one of those who likes to attack others, but is too cowardly to let anyone know who he actually is. Everyone who I've ever argued or debated with who is visible as an individual I have no problem with, whether I ever agree with them or not. But the gutless bastards like Lee24 deserve exactly nothing, because they've never had the guts to be known.
Good to see him go away -- if he does -- because he's just plain useless. We'll see.
How do you guys feel about an auction of sorts for a 416 Super Express in Lee's honor? This was the rifle I put on the block for proof of his Columbia wonder that never was. It'll be a chance to own a piece of history.
Matt,
How about giving us folks with a limited disposable income a chance at winning, and raffle off the rifle? Crap, does that make me sound like a dhimmicrat? Blech....
I don't think I have ever participated in a thread by or about Lee24 in my time at the campfire. I have found the whole interaction over the many months to be quite perplexing, and more than a little sad. Here you have someone who REALLY wants to be accepted, but nevertheless engages in a pattern of behavior that alienates people to the point of being a pariah. Simple trolls come and go in a couple dozen posts. Lee24's needs and failings run much much deeper.
It is really rather pitiful. No matter how severe the social sanction, he kept coming back for more. I'll never understand why he didn't leave months and months ago; I can't figure out what need kept him posting, even though every one opened him up for more heckling and belittling.
I think "Forty Year Old Virgin" was now based on a true story, but casting it in Calhoun County, SC, would have blended it too much with "Deliverance".
I hope he doesn't completely go away. He had me all ticked off in the fitness craze thing and in the 375 hh thing. He was somewhat cordial. I was always wanting to get all of the Alaskan boys and girls(Steelie,too) to put together a trip for him and maser. I thought it would be kind of a coming to jesus party. It never was realized. I think that if the Montana folk which there are a lot of and the Alaskan folk each donated 50 bucks we could get both of them up here and really give each the real world experience that they need. It never really happened and the world is poorer for it.
How do you guys feel about an auction of sorts for a 416 Super Express in Lee's honor? This was the rifle I put on the block for proof of his Columbia wonder that never was. It'll be a chance to own a piece of history.
such power that if you were to see it whole and complete in a single glance, it would burn you to cinders....It is everywhere. It is everything. Its scales glisten in the bark of trees. Its roar is heard in the wind. And its forked tongue strikes like...like lightning � yes that's it.
How do you guys feel about an auction of sorts for a 416 Super Express in Lee's honor? This was the rifle I put on the block for proof of his Columbia wonder that never was. It'll be a chance to own a piece of history.
such power that if you were to see it whole and complete in a single glance, it would burn you to cinders....It is everywhere. It is everything. Its scales glisten in the bark of trees. Its roar is heard in the wind. And its forked tongue strikes like...like lightning � yes that's it.
How do you guys feel about an auction of sorts for a 416 Super Express in Lee's honor? This was the rifle I put on the block for proof of his Columbia wonder that never was. It'll be a chance to own a piece of history.
Proceeds to Help Wounded Vets?
BMT
I couldn't do the auction, but if he raffled it I'd spring some milk money for a ticket or two....
How do you guys feel about an auction of sorts for a 416 Super Express in Lee's honor? This was the rifle I put on the block for proof of his Columbia wonder that never was. It'll be a chance to own a piece of history.
Proceeds to Help Wounded Vets?
BMT
I couldn't do the auction, but if he raffled it I'd spring some milk money for a ticket or two....
such power that if you were to see it whole and complete in a single glance, it would burn you to cinders....It is everywhere. It is everything. Its scales glisten in the bark of trees. Its roar is heard in the wind. And its forked tongue strikes like...like lightning � yes that's it.
such power that if you were to see it whole and complete in a single glance, it would burn you to cinders....It is everywhere. It is everything. Its scales glisten in the bark of trees. Its roar is heard in the wind. And its forked tongue strikes like...like lightning � yes that's it.
stop it....you're scaring me
It apparently scared Lee all the way to southern california...
I hope he is really leaving and never coming back. Also, Lee, if you are still here (which we all know you are), go out and play in the street, you liar!
such power that if you were to see it whole and complete in a single glance, it would burn you to cinders....It is everywhere. It is everything. Its scales glisten in the bark of trees. Its roar is heard in the wind. And its forked tongue strikes like...like lightning � yes that's it.
such power that if you were to see it whole and complete in a single glance, it would burn you to cinders....It is everywhere. It is everything. Its scales glisten in the bark of trees. Its roar is heard in the wind. And its forked tongue strikes like...like lightning � yes that's it.
stop it....you're scaring me
You should be..............
But, I'll be kind. Send that Watson Bros. double (I'll make sure it gets a good home), and I'll go easy on you.
Dear Rick Bin: The website, 24HourCampfire, has become a public nuisance. Lee24
Indeed,many is the night that I have remained awake denying my wife my husbandly duties only to read depraved postings by individuals that must remain anonymous to secure my physical safety as well as the numerous Saturday and Sunday mornings wasted spewing coffee all over my keyboard due to some old geezer in Florida and his feeble attempts at humor when Ishould be mowing the grass..
Dare I mention the alcohol generated debauchery that occured on or about December 11, 2009 in Tennessee by some 25ish members of the 24HC. Bordered on the criminal side I tell ya.
such power that if you were to see it whole and complete in a single glance, it would burn you to cinders....It is everywhere. It is everything. Its scales glisten in the bark of trees. Its roar is heard in the wind. And its forked tongue strikes like...like lightning � yes that's it.
I'm putting my money on bangum (nah, nothing Freudian in THAT name) being the new incarnation. Just a cruder incarnation with no pretense of intelligence..
I'll get some of the details worked out, but it will definitely be a raffle.
When I get it ironed out, I'll post the details in another thread on the campfire, but everyone is encouraged to link to it from other places here.
For starters, I'm thinking tickets could go for $10.00 each. Minimum purchased and raffle dates would yet to be determined.
I've met "castandblast" and "222Rem", as well as a few others, but those guys are here in Oregon and fairly close. One or both might be willing to participate in the drawing, so everybody knows that it's fair.
I'm thinking requirement would have to be that you were an active member of the campfire before today to qualify.
Okay, so there's some ideas. Feel free to throw out your own and we'll see what we can come up with.
I'll get some of the details worked out, but it will definitely be a raffle.
When I get it ironed out, I'll post the details in another thread on the campfire, but everyone is encouraged to link to it from other places here.
For starters, I'm thinking tickets could go for $10.00 each. Minimum purchased and raffle dates would yet to be determined.
I've met "castandblast" and "222Rem", as well as a few others, but those guys are here in Oregon and fairly close. One or both might be willing to participate in the drawing, so everybody knows that it's fair.
I'm thinking requirement would have to be that you were an active member of the campfire before today to qualify.
Okay, so there's some ideas. Feel free to throw out your own and we'll see what we can come up with.
PM me details when you are ready and I will get it sorted out regarding the Oregon Dep't of Justice, Charitable Activities Section rules.
I'll get some of the details worked out, but it will definitely be a raffle.
When I get it ironed out, I'll post the details in another thread on the campfire, but everyone is encouraged to link to it from other places here.
For starters, I'm thinking tickets could go for $10.00 each. Minimum purchased and raffle dates would yet to be determined.
I've met "castandblast" and "222Rem", as well as a few others, but those guys are here in Oregon and fairly close. One or both might be willing to participate in the drawing, so everybody knows that it's fair.
I'm thinking requirement would have to be that you were an active member of the campfire before today to qualify.
Okay, so there's some ideas. Feel free to throw out your own and we'll see what we can come up with.
PM me details when you are ready and I will get it sorted out regarding the Oregon Dep't of Justice, Charitable Activities Section rules.
BMT
I think you just volunteered to be the bag man on this operation.
How do you guys feel about an auction of sorts for a 416 Super Express in Lee's honor? This was the rifle I put on the block for proof of his Columbia wonder that never was. It'll be a chance to own a piece of history.
The thing I loved about Lee24 was you always met someone new when you talked to him......always reminded me of the movie "A Beautiful Mind" was a terrible thing to waste
I'll get some of the details worked out, but it will definitely be a raffle.
When I get it ironed out, I'll post the details in another thread on the campfire, but everyone is encouraged to link to it from other places here.
For starters, I'm thinking tickets could go for $10.00 each. Minimum purchased and raffle dates would yet to be determined.
I've met "castandblast" and "222Rem", as well as a few others, but those guys are here in Oregon and fairly close. One or both might be willing to participate in the drawing, so everybody knows that it's fair.
I'm thinking requirement would have to be that you were an active member of the campfire before today to qualify.
Okay, so there's some ideas. Feel free to throw out your own and we'll see what we can come up with.
PM me details when you are ready and I will get it sorted out regarding the Oregon Dep't of Justice, Charitable Activities Section rules.
BMT
Call me ignorant, but how many hoops does a guy have to go through to send a rifle to an FFL holder, based on numerous people donating to the cause? I would think that once the funds were collected, we would simply send off the proceeds, minus my investment in the rifle and we're good right?
Somebody ends up with a Model 70 for 10 bucks and goes through a licensed dealer of their choice, at which time they would go through the background check and have to pay that fee, but that's the end of the story correct?
cant see how it wouldnt be feasible short of your state saying it aint there.....have done similar raffles all the time here, only hang up is the gun must be passed through a FFL to the winner.....Ducks Unlimited, Walleyes Unlimited, the Lions Club, the Optimist Club have all done gun raffles just here in this town....
BTW if yah want hard copy tickets ild be willing to do them gratis provided all the funds minus shipping expenses of the rifle and like go to a charity like Wounded Warriors or similar.....even ship them to you on my dime.....though i can think of other ways yah could do it without actual tickets aswell provided everyone trusts yah(i do)
I would be in for a raffle ticket. And evidently video of 2 girls and dishware.
Dave.
No,you aren't.Trust me on this one.I was smart and actually read about the video before watching.Just reading about it killed my sex drive for 2 weeks.I think I threw up in my mouth a little too.
The potential problem is state laws against games of chance. They require a charity to host the raffle and that the charity has to have a license. Here in AK they are very specific and all I am aware from other states are equally so. Being interstate has to create complications...
They do not want folks running around claiminig it is for charity and prospering on others misled intentions. art
I'm in Oregon and the gun club I belong to has a raffle every year for a rifle. The rifle may have to be donated to the charity first and then raffle tickets sold by the charity? If thats the case then I'd be willing to donate money to you Matt so that that you recoup your investment then later If you receive a tax break on it you can again donate it in kind if you choose. I don't know if this is feasible, but if I can help in any way with the $$$ let me know. I applaud what your trying to accomplish.
Many of these people are mentally retarded, handicapped, or otherwise chronically disabled. Lee24
Liar 24....A self portrait.... jorge
First Moccasin Joe and now Lee24 gone. What are you going to do for a foil? What will get you BP up enough to bring the passion? Without the dearly departed, you will fight boredom instead of deceit.
I'll get some of the details worked out, but it will definitely be a raffle.
When I get it ironed out, I'll post the details in another thread on the campfire, but everyone is encouraged to link to it from other places here.
For starters, I'm thinking tickets could go for $10.00 each. Minimum purchased and raffle dates would yet to be determined.
I've met "castandblast" and "222Rem", as well as a few others, but those guys are here in Oregon and fairly close. One or both might be willing to participate in the drawing, so everybody knows that it's fair.
I'm thinking requirement would have to be that you were an active member of the campfire before today to qualify.
Okay, so there's some ideas. Feel free to throw out your own and we'll see what we can come up with.
Absolutely Matt. Proud to be a part of this "menace to society"!
The raffle is simple draw a name the winner provides a FFL to ship to if he does not provide it draw again. Just don't ship the rifle without to anyone but a FFL.
A search was done for "LEE", "south carolina", and "engineer", along with other selected pieces of [bleep], and came upon a political forum in SC, where the guy Lee (last name withheld) spews forth with the same attitude and rhetoric as our Lee24. Claims to be a consulting engineer.
Found a "Lee (last name withheld at this point)" at engineeringexchange with similar experiential claims, and no evidence to back it up, though there is no "Lee (last name withheld)", and only two references at all in South Carolina as being professional engineers with the same last name as the one withheld, and neither are named anything close to "Lee".
A moderator at another forum whom I know verified that there is someone there was logged in as LeeinSC, and being an ass. LeeinSC also made comments about his discussion at huntamerica.com where he is LeeinSC. That Lee makes claims to guns like Lee24.
Login info there comes back to Lee (last name withheld) located in SC.
LeeinSC is the photobucket account of Lee24, and LeeinSC on the other forums.
Just from the below information, which he supplied ( IF THE SAME LEE IN SC) it seems he is quite the expert in all things engineering, which is what I recall from the very few threads I looked at that he has posted....
Lee Mxxxx Summary Lee Mxxxx�s Specialties: Automation, process design, process control, logistics, ocean shipping, automobile assembly, aerospace manufacturing, medical device R&D, product design, mechanical engineering, civil engineering, chemical, real-time systems, DSP, operating systems development, BIOS, encrypted transactions, EFT, expert systems, AI, robotics, remote control, military AUV, submarine AUV, airborne AUV, mechatronics, large-scale systems integration, imaging, theater C3, software development and program management.
Lee Mxxxx�s Contact Settings Interested In: career opportunities consulting offers new ventures job inquiries expertise requests business deals reference requests getting back in touch
Just from the below information, which he supplied ( IF THE SAME LEE IN SC) it seems he is quite the expert in all things engineering, which is what I recall from the very few threads I looked at that he has posted....
Lee Mxxxx Summary Lee Mxxxx�s Specialties: Automation, process design, process control, logistics, ocean shipping, automobile assembly, aerospace manufacturing, medical device R&D, product design, mechanical engineering, civil engineering, chemical, real-time systems, DSP, operating systems development, BIOS, encrypted transactions, EFT, expert systems, AI, robotics, remote control, military AUV, submarine AUV, airborne AUV, mechatronics, large-scale systems integration, imaging, theater C3, software development and program management.
Lee Mxxxx�s Contact Settings Interested In: career opportunities consulting offers new ventures job inquiries expertise requests business deals reference requests getting back in touch
Amazing that the South Carolina Secretary of State's office shows no such business registered to do business in that state.
The thing I find so insulting is the reference to a LAWYER friend having come here and agree it isn't a website he would continue to go to....
Who gives a rats ass what one person thinks, regardless of their professional position in life, let alone a friend of some dude with an attitude, who threatens legal proceedings against Rick and the sponsors of this fine website....
Oh wait, I thinks this is a good thing, most lawyers wouldn't go to a hunting / shooting website anyway. Sorry to those lawyers who do visit here, probably good people.....
Are you interested in making this soot a class action,......
SteveNO's idea sounds great,....
Let me know, and I'll foward alla' my beefs about how unkindly the world in general, and the Campfire in particular have maligned, misinterpreted, molested, .....etc.
There's at LEAST 110 complaints,......surely ONE would be worth the price of a good S.C. Win ?
Are you interested in making this soot a class action,......
SteveNO's idea sounds great,....
Hell yeah!,..
Let's everbuddy soo Steve!
Tell him to take some money out of his left pocket and put it in his right pocket,..call it a retainer, and get started doing whatever lawyers do that makes people have to give a buncha money to other people.
,...and if he doesn't do a good job soo-in hisself on behalf of alla those people he meanmouth's, we'll have Lee24 report him to the bar.
,...and me and the bartender are just like that,....
*Bristoe displays his index and middle finger pressed tightly together*
Besides, I looked at your case against me, and after careful study decided it is not worth pursuing. I'll be sending you a bill for my time in checking it out for you, though.
lessee now.....three hours = approximately one FAL
or one of those two little Cadet Martinis would be OK, too.
and if you're slow payin', I'll be hiring Lawyer Lee to collect, so.....be warned.
It not that I don't give a [bleep], it's that you gotta dance with the one that brung you.
From Day One, this website has been about self-regulation and minimal Big Brother, and that's the way I intend to keep it. It's seemed to work. We'll be celebrating our tenth anniversary soon.
Yeah, in the short-term, it means sometimes we all have to tolerate folks we'd rather not. BUT, when I hear somebody complain about another member and ask me to ban/censor/castrate another poster, my take is I'm doing things right. And don't think I don't realize how quickly that tide will turn if I were to start wielding a heavy hammer around here.
Nah, it ain't my job to settle beefs among and between grown men (and women), nor to pick sides. The membership here has more than enough power to take care of business without my intrusion, and usually does. I'll step in only if and when I feel I have no choice, and very few have put me in that position.
It not that I don't give a [bleep], it's that you gotta dance with the one that brung you.
From Day One, this website has been about self-regulation and minimal Big Brother, and that's the way I intended to keep it. It's seemed to work. We'll be celebrating our tenth anniversary soon.
Yeah, in the short-term, it means sometimes we all have to tolerate folks we'd rather not. BUT, when I hear somebody complain about another and ask me to ban/cesnor/castrate another poster, my take is I'm doing things right. And don't think I don't realize how quickly that tide will turn if I start wielding a heavy hammer around here.
Nah, it's ain't my job to settle beefs among and between grown men (and women), nor pick sides. The membership here has more than enough power to take care of business without my intrusion, and usually does. I'll step in only if and when I feel I have no choice, and very few have put me in that position.
It's your sandbox, boys.
There ya go!
That's close enough to not givvin' a chit for me.
I'm a libertarian, yanno. We vastly prefer notgivvashitism to snot nosed snivellin'. Especially the Lee24 variety.
He's one of them bottle fed people. They're easy to spot,..
,...always carryin' own about first one bullshit item then another,..then piss their britches at the first hint of being called on it.
A titty 45 years ago would have changed his life,...but it's too late now.
It not that I don't give a [bleep], it's that you gotta dance with the one that brung you.
From Day One, this website has been about self-regulation and minimal Big Brother, and that's the way I intend to keep it. It's seemed to work. We'll be celebrating our tenth anniversary soon.
Yeah, in the short-term, it means sometimes we all have to tolerate folks we'd rather not. BUT, when I hear somebody complain about another member and ask me to ban/censor/castrate another poster, my take is I'm doing things right. And don't think I don't realize how quickly that tide will turn if I were to start wielding a heavy hammer around here.
Nah, it ain't my job to settle beefs among and between grown men (and women), nor to pick sides. The membership here has more than enough power to take care of business without my intrusion, and usually does. I'll step in only if and when I feel I have no choice, and very few have put me in that position.
It not that I don't give a [bleep], it's that you gotta dance with the one that brung you.
From Day One, this website has been about self-regulation and minimal Big Brother, and that's the way I intend to keep it. It's seemed to work. We'll be celebrating our tenth anniversary soon.
Yeah, in the short-term, it means sometimes we all have to tolerate folks we'd rather not. BUT, when I hear somebody complain about another member and ask me to ban/censor/castrate another poster, my take is I'm doing things right. And don't think I don't realize how quickly that tide will turn if I were to start wielding a heavy hammer around here.
Nah, it ain't my job to settle beefs among and between grown men (and women), nor to pick sides. The membership here has more than enough power to take care of business without my intrusion, and usually does. I'll step in only if and when I feel I have no choice, and very few have put me in that position.
It not that I don't give a [bleep], it's that you gotta dance with the one that brung you.
From Day One, this website has been about self-regulation and minimal Big Brother, and that's the way I intend to keep it. It's seemed to work. We'll be celebrating our tenth anniversary soon.
Yeah, in the short-term, it means sometimes we all have to tolerate folks we'd rather not. BUT, when I hear somebody complain about another member and ask me to ban/censor/castrate another poster, my take is I'm doing things right. And don't think I don't realize how quickly that tide will turn if I were to start wielding a heavy hammer around here.
Nah, it ain't my job to settle beefs among and between grown men (and women), nor to pick sides. The membership here has more than enough power to take care of business without my intrusion, and usually does. I'll step in only if and when I feel I have no choice, and very few have put me in that position.
It's your sandbox, boys.
They don't come any better than Rick, boys and girls..........
A traveling sandbox at times when some of us have taken time to travel,meet,eat,hunt, do a little partying and for some of us the beginings of lasting friendships. I told my wife that I've been meeting men on the internet and she really likes the pics of us guy and gals here at the 24HC aka Ric's Joint.
Wish I had a magic button that would vaporize people! I'd nuke half the damn place and there'd be about three posts left in the entire "Campfire"! Never seen so much bitching, moaning, and crying in all my life, and I grew up with six sisters, have four daughters, and work with fugg'n criminals for a living!
Seriously, this place gets stupider with every passing hour, and I ain't just talking about Lee and Oldman1942! Some people need to grow the [bleep] up and learn to give it a rest!
Seriously, this place gets stupider with every passing hour, and I ain't just talking about Lee and Oldman1942! Some people need to grow the [bleep] up and learn to give it a rest!
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