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Posted By: BOWSINGER Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
Some of the highlights from a post by Mike Metroulas Jan 19th 2011

Is Palin Done? They Wish

Sarah Palin�s detractors in the media are certainly prone to wishful thinking concerning the Cuda�s potential as the Republican nominee in 2012. Since Palin�s statement on the Tucson tragedy, some have written her off as a serious contender for the Republican nomination. Doyle McManus states in the LA Times that:

�she�s not going to be her party�s presidential nominee.

I disagree, Mr. McManus.

As of now, if she wants it, it is hers.

Of course, that may change, but a Palin run for the nomination would unleash a grassroots fury of support unseen on the right for a Republican presidential nominee in recent memory, and her detractors know it.


Why else would much of the mainstream media be scrambling so often to convince independents that Palin isn�t viable?
Plus, many of these people just do not like Palin and what she stands for, which is a pragmatic, principled view of government and fierce American individualism. Mainstream media types generally prefer theorizing about complex strategies and solutions to problems that were most likely created by over-theorizing in the first place. It�s how they were trained in academia and sometimes they just can�t help it.
However, life isn�t complicated, and Sarah Palin knows it.
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�Palin is not linked in any way to the Tucson tragedy� except by the manufactured, desperate link created in the media that had one intended purpose: to demonize Palin personally, something Palin certainly did not do regarding Gabrielle Giffords.
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Did Palin talk about how evil Giffords is? No.
Did she call Giffords the �Worst Person in the World� or say she was an accessory to murder?
Why didn�t the media go after Chris Matthews or Olbermann or Ed Schultz? Aren�t they pretty abrasive?
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That�s the key difference between what Palin did and what some in the media did. It�s a question of intent and motivation.
They don�t seem to understand that.
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The appeal of Palin is illuminated by many of the images/perceptions of both her and President Obama.

Palin the badass hunts, fishes, climbs mountains, shoots caribou, rides in small planes; the Democrats are represented by Obama, a man who flinches while watching a judo exhibition and wears a safety helmet for a leisurely bike ride.

Fair or not, this perception exists.

Palin is Theodore Roosevelt in a size 6 suit, American flag pin, and some kick ass black leather boots.
Obama is an academic who looks uncomfortable in jeans, throws like a girl, and can�t name his alleged baseball heroes from childhood

Again, seemingly superficial stuff, but appearances go a long way in America and can be especially ineffective when they seem contrived or overly effeminate.

Hillary Clinton wanted to look like a badass when she slammed that shot of whiskey.
I won�t lie; I thought it was cool. She seemed like she�d done that before.
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The core question I�d like answered is this: What is the purpose of this witch hunt if it�s not to rile people up against Sarah Palin?
If she�s so damn irrelevant, then this effort can�t be political, can it?
Lambasting her on national television, saying she is responsible for murder is inexcusable and it�s personal.
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She done kicked your asses, boys and girls, all while expressing mainstream American principles that will make her the nominee in 2012, should she decide to run.

If she doesn�t run, I hope she toys with the idea for the next several elections.
Watching these hissy fits, which utterly destroy any small shred of credibility the mainstream media has left, is quite entertaining.
I just hope they don�t occur under such tragic circumstances from here on out.
I think we can all agree on that.


This proxy war she�s waged with the mainstream media over the last year or so is a shrewd move.
Not only does it keep her name front and center in the media, but she�s also honing her rhetorical chops while boning up on all her policy behind the scenes.
The real battles don�t take place for quite some time and she knows it.
Any rumor of her demise is premature, especially considering her trademark tenacity. She�s laying deep down in the weeds, ready to strike.


Chalk up another win for the Sarahcuda.
Posted By: bea175 Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
Not in my book , i love the woman and she has my support all the way.
Our little local rag has a woman owner and editor and she mentions in every editoral she writes just how dumb Sarah is. Most time the article has nothing to do with Sarah but she throws that in anyway. She is a big Bill Clinton fan too. Does anybody see a pattern here? miles
Originally Posted by bea175
Not in my book , i love the woman and she has my support all the way.


Likewise. At least 1000 percent but just wait until sse and Spanky, not to mention a dozen other members see this. I think they are on the payroll of the libs.
Posted By: kraky111 Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
At some point in time Sara will have to step out of the world of tweets and facebook and canned Fox interviews. Some here may think she'll do well.....and she won't do as bad as the McCain days...but she WILL NOT COME ACCROSS AS PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.
Posted By: burner Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
"Of course, that may change, but a Palin run for the nomination would unleash a grassroots fury of support unseen on the right for a Republican presidential nominee in recent memory, and her detractors know it."

Where was that groundswell in 2008?

I don't see it. I wish they'd stop pushing her, she's the best chance we have of getting Obama re-elected.
Posted By: NeBassman Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
I'll say it again, it's still way too early to making any predictions about the 2012 presidential race. Sarah still has yet to decide if she is throwing her hat in the the ring or not.
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she's the best chance we have of getting Obama re-elected


No, that would be if McCain decides to run again. miles
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
Originally Posted by burner
"Of course, that may change, but a Palin run for the nomination would unleash a grassroots fury of support unseen on the right for a Republican presidential nominee in recent memory, and her detractors know it."

Where was that groundswell in 2008?

I don't see it. I wish they'd stop pushing her, she's the best chance we have of getting Obama re-elected.




According to Nielsen Media Research, almost 39 million Americans watched McCain deliver his acceptance speech, while 37 million watched Palin the night before.

Dittoes for her debate with Biden and everything Sarah has done since.
No VP candidate has very done anything that comes close.

The best chance to reelect Obama is to run Romney or some other RINO that loses the Tea Party vote.
Posted By: burner Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
I just find her to be too polarizing. I feel it'd be the same as if the Dems ran Hilary. People either love or hate her, no middle ground.
Posted By: M1894 Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
Let the clowns keep thier focus on Sarah , they are rabid over her LOL
Posted By: burner Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
Thanks, I was starting to feel like the only person around here who doesn't "Get" the whole Palin fetish.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
Originally Posted by M1894
Let the clowns keep thier focus on Sarah , they are rabid over her LOL



Rush Limbaugh on his radio show:

I don�t care what you think about this woman. I don�t care what you think about her parking lot possibilities, qualifications, or any of that.
But I just have to tell you, I don�t know of anybody in the political arena who has been more impugned, libeled, slandered, ripped, mis-characterized. It has been vicious, personally vicious and merciless, and she appears untainted by it.

In fact, she has risen above it.

And as you know, our party is filled with people who just cave at the first sign of this. And they try to make peace with the critics. �Oh, no, no, no! Don�t think of me that way. I�m nice!� She has not done that at all. So whatever else you think of Sarah Palin, folks, you have to marvel at how she has dealt with this and risen above it, not become bitter by it � and it just continues, and it increases in its intensity.

In radio it doesn't matter how many people hate you. Politics you can't win with people hating you. You just can't and so it's an entirely different mind-set that you have to have in dealing with this kind of criticism when you're in politics -- and the moment, the moment you act affected by it and the moment you respond to it they just pounce on you as not having character, not having the steel spine, not having the ability to deal with it.

That's where she has totally befuddled them. She's gotten stronger throughout all this.


Posted By: BrentD Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Palin is Theodore Roosevelt in a size 6 suit, American flag pin, and some kick ass black leather boots.


Sadly, I know you are serious about that statement. The rest of us are laughing when we aren't crying. For damn sure, she ain't no Teddy Roosevelt.
Posted By: RAS2 Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
Yeah, but she looks better in a bikini! grin
Posted By: BrentD Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
Originally Posted by RAS2
Yeah, but she looks better in a bikini! grin


Indeed, one thing we can all agree with.
You silly boys are so funny.

Rassmussen on Palin.
Posted By: RAS2 Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
Aw shucks.... I thought you had a pic of her in the bikini. grin

Hey do they wear them in Alaska?? Now that's perky!! laugh
That's the beauty of all this bickering...we don't need to all agree. I think if she runs in 2012, the fact that she will win is all that matters --- her critics' hissyfits will just take a different tack. I'll vote for her because I haven't seen anyone better to vote for, and hissyfits don't sway me much.

If anything, attacks like we see on her family and her lifestyle just make me want to support her that much more. The attacks I see on her character are based on fear of what she represents: the millions of silent Americans that are fed up with the status quo.

She is very much out in the public's eye, and that's more than I can say for any candidate from either party lately. I've never known a presidential hopeful that was so exposed to all of America and has done so well.
Show me something better...and wipe your chin.
Posted By: BrentD Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
She won't win - unless, maybe, just maybe, she starts showing up in that bikini. An ittsy-bittsy, yellow polka-dot bikini and no less.

Lots of people are in the public eye - like so much sand. Take just about any other politician.
Posted By: kraky111 Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
That Rasmussen poll interview was from Nov 2008. Since then Sarahs numbers have fallen very badly. As a matter of fact recent polls have her way heavy on disapproval....she's almost got the same numbers as Nancy Pelosi....and that ain't good.
Posted By: vapodog Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
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Is Palin Done?

If she is then it would be good to recognize the good she has done for America.....

Makes little difference.....the sleeping giant has been awakened.....and Sarah had a lot to do with it.....besides....we'll see just how "done" she is in 2012 and there'll be a lot of water to go over the dam between now and then!
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/20/11
Originally Posted by BrentD
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Palin is Theodore Roosevelt in a size 6 suit, American flag pin, and some kick ass black leather boots.


Sadly, I know you are serious about that statement. The rest of us are laughing when we aren't crying. For damn sure, she ain't no Teddy Roosevelt.




You are right and Mike Metroulas was wrong, Sarah wears a size 4.
Those were his words not mine.

And you are right about Teddy, Palin is much more conservative and far less progressive that Teddy Roosevelt was.
Posted By: RobJordan Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Palin gets trounced by Obama in every national poll. Nominating her guarantees four more years of Obama. Its that simple. On a lighter note, she's a quitter, a drama queen, ignorant, divisive, and not very bright.

Jordan
Posted By: BrentD Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Originally Posted by RobJordan
Palin gets trounced by Obama in every national poll. Nominating her guarantees four more years of Obama. Its that simple. On a lighter note, she's a quitter, a drama queen, ignorant, divisive, and not very bright.

Jordan


OUCH!!!

But so damn accurate.... You did miss "cute" though. Apparently, that counts for something.
Posted By: arctic338 Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Originally Posted by RobJordan
Palin gets trounced by Obama in every national poll. Nominating her guarantees four more years of Obama. Its that simple. On a lighter note, she's a quitter, a drama queen, ignorant, divisive, and not very bright.

Jordan


Hmmm, "ignorant and not very bright" in the same sentence; sounds kind of ignorant and not very bright.
We all know what Sarah has done for Alaska, conservatives, Tea Party, standing up to the dems and lamestream media for what millions of Americans hold dear. Alll this while the rest of the R's are in hiding somewhere.
What have you done Mr. Wisdom?
Posted By: RobJordan Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
"Ignorant" and "not very bright" are not synonyms. My conservative bonafides (which are considerable---but out of modesty shall remain private) are completely irrelevant to the merits of my criticisms of Palin.

Hijack attempt thwarted with logic.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Originally Posted by kraky111
That Rasmussen poll interview was from Nov 2008. Since then Sarahs numbers have fallen very badly. As a matter of fact recent polls have her way heavy on disapproval....she's almost got the same numbers as Nancy Pelosi....and that ain't good.




This is what Rasmussen said right after the Nov. 2010 election:

�It�s a dead heat between Romney, Huckabee and Palin when likely primary voters are asked who they would vote for if their primary were held today.�

And yesterday the Washington post poll said basically the same thing:

In a new Washington Post poll 1/20/11
21% of respondents advised they would support Huckabee 19% Palin and 17% Romney as detailed below.
No one else got into double figures and the latest left wing media selections for the GOP of the month Thune and Daniels hardly rated at all.
The 40% shared between Palin and Huckabee-a statistical tie are the only poll results that matter at this point in time for the 2012 election. The polls showing Palin 10 points behind Obama for example, two years out are meaningless as the Reagan polling below shows.
All that matters for Palin is, should she choose to run, how well will she do in the early primaries. Clearly, despite all the massive negative left wing media attacks she is still very popular with the base (80% in polls).

And they added this:

Polling has also shown that should Huckabee choose not to run, a strong possibility, then Palin is his supporters next choice. The numbers then, at this point, and should Huckabee not run, are very much on her side. Even Andrew Sullivan in a moment of lucidity when the PDS uterus fog lifted, said this week that he thinks the �nomination is still hers to lose� even given the media attacks and supposed general low poll rating.
Posted By: DoeDumper Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Originally Posted by RobJordan
Palin gets trounced by Obama in every national poll. Nominating her guarantees four more years of Obama. Its that simple. On a lighter note, she's a quitter, a drama queen, ignorant, divisive, and not very bright.

Jordan



Another rocket surgeon speaks....


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Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
I'm a registered Republican, but I'll vote for the best candidate regardless of his/her Party affiliation.

I won't vote for Palin, she is not sufficiently worldly, educated, or it appears, intelligent enough to be POTUS.

I won't vote for Romney, he is a Mormon and this is, mostly, a Christian Country.

I won't vote for Obama, he is 90% image and 10% substance. I doubt that there has ever been a less well prepared man assume the office of POTUS. EVER.

That leaves who?

JEff
Posted By: Ringman Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
BrentD,

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The rest of us are laughing


How many in your group of "us"? I don't know any.
Posted By: Calvin Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Originally Posted by RobJordan
Palin gets trounced by Obama in every national poll. Nominating her guarantees four more years of Obama. Its that simple. On a lighter note, she's a quitter, a drama queen, ignorant, divisive, and not very bright.

Jordan


Your kid ever get a job up in Alaska?
Posted By: BMT Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
I DO NOT WANT PALIN FOR PRESIDENT.

Its really not her talent (and she is quite talented). She should be leaing the people who live OUTSIDE the beltway.

BMT
Originally Posted by Ringman
BrentD,

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The rest of us are laughing


How many in your group of "us"? I don't know any.


I am one of many.

The lady has done yoeman service for the Party. She should be praised for that. Let us all hope she keeps on doing that. I do believe she is intelligent and avericious enough to not pursue the nomination. She is very well situated to increase her fortune and the fortunes of Conservatives without making the mistake of throwing her bra in the ring.
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
If Obama is 90% image and 10% substance, what is Palin's split, 89%/11%? I see nothing in that woman that would inspire me, in any way, to vote for her. At least Obama would have had 4 years of OJT to fall back on. What does Palin fall back on? Her success as the mayor of a city with a population of 10K? Her success as a less than a full term governor of a state with a population only slightly over 700K? Sarah Palin is to politics what Paris Hilton is to acting.

JEff
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Originally Posted by RobJordan
"Ignorant" and "not very bright" are not synonyms. My conservative bonafides (which are considerable---but out of modesty shall remain private) are completely irrelevant to the merits of my criticisms of Palin.

Hijack attempt thwarted with logic.



That reminds me.
Some unfinished business�

Way back, last February, RobJordan posted this:
�All of the liberal critics of Palin are people I cannot stand. They are card carrying leftists utterly hostile to conservatism. But that is irrelevant to the factual questions surrounding Palin's competence. Whether or not Charlie Gibson is a liberal is utterly irrelevant on the question whether Sarah Palin did or did not know what the Bush doctrine was, or whether Africa was a continent and not a nation.
I did a little survey in my house this evening (granted, its not scientific): I asked my very conservative wife (pro-life, church-going, devoted mother), my very conservative son (reads everything conservative, just finished reading "Witness" by Whittaker Cambers, an intelligent critic of evolution etc.) and my very, very conservative 26 year old teacher daughter. I asked them all (ignoring what they know of my opinions on the matter) what they thought of Sarah Palin. The word they all used to describe her: "idiot". It was universal.�

And I posted:
�I would like to ask you and your family two reasonable follow up survey questions. How could an �idiot� accomplish as much as Sarah Palin has in her young life. The second is an essay question and based on the Dewie Whetsell challenge that I posted a few clicks back. Name someone else who has done better. This might be more constructive than flippin� someone off as an �idiot�.

I hope your family did ignore your opinions and your �facts�.
Fact is that Charles Krauthammer has said that there are four Bush Doctrines and Sarah Palin answered with the correct one.
Fact is that the �Africa is a Nation� fable has been completely discredited.
Some who should know, say that there is several hours of good stuff in the Katie Couric interview locked away in the NBC vault.
I do know for a fact that Palin has done very well in her speeches, debates, and her other interviews. And those interviews are available in unedited transcripts.
My favorite is the one she did in her kitchen with Greta Van Susteren.�

I am still waiting for the results of my �follow up survey questions.�
Now that Palin has continued to do so well and her 2010 1040 is so much better then yours or mine�
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by BrentD
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Palin is Theodore Roosevelt in a size 6 suit, American flag pin, and some kick ass black leather boots.


Sadly, I know you are serious about that statement. The rest of us are laughing when we aren't crying. For damn sure, she ain't no Teddy Roosevelt.




You are right and Mike Metroulas was wrong, Sarah wears a size 4.
Those were his words not mine.

And you are right about Teddy, Palin is much more conservative and far less progressive that Teddy Roosevelt was.


Damn, Bow, this is getting scary.

You know her dress size and SHOE size? Do you know her bra size and what brand of TP she prefers? Does she wear red or blue panties? Any tats? Where? Body piercings? Where? Photos please.
Posted By: nemesis Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Originally Posted by 260Remguy



I won't vote for Palin, she is because I'm not sufficiently worldly, educated, or it appears, intelligent enough to vote. be POTUS.

There is fixed it for ya'........


JEff
Posted By: 300WinMag Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
I like her. BUT, I don't think that her Alaska TV show is helping her chances of being Pres one bit.
Posted By: RickyD Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Originally Posted by BrentD
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Palin is Theodore Roosevelt in a size 6 suit, American flag pin, and some kick ass black leather boots.


Sadly, I know you are serious about that statement. The rest of us are laughing when we aren't crying. For damn sure, she ain't no Teddy Roosevelt.
And a good thing too. TR was in on the start of the progressive movement, like his cousin FDR, which has stymied much growth and freedom in America. Palin draws much larger crowds too.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by kraky111
That Rasmussen poll interview was from Nov 2008. Since then Sarahs numbers have fallen very badly. As a matter of fact recent polls have her way heavy on disapproval....she's almost got the same numbers as Nancy Pelosi....and that ain't good.




This is what Rasmussen said right after the Nov. 2010 election:

“It’s a dead heat between Romney, Huckabee and Palin when likely primary voters are asked who they would vote for if their primary were held today.”

And yesterday the Washington post poll said basically the same thing:

In a new Washington Post poll 1/20/11
21% of respondents advised they would support Huckabee 19% Palin and 17% Romney as detailed below.
No one else got into double figures and the latest left wing media selections for the GOP of the month Thune and Daniels hardly rated at all.
The 40% shared between Palin and Huckabee-a statistical tie are the only poll results that matter at this point in time for the 2012 election. The polls showing Palin 10 points behind Obama for example, two years out are meaningless as the Reagan polling below shows.
All that matters for Palin is, should she choose to run, how well will she do in the early primaries. Clearly, despite all the massive negative left wing media attacks she is still very popular with the base (80% in polls).

And they added this:

Polling has also shown that should Huckabee choose not to run, a strong possibility, then Palin is his supporters next choice. The numbers then, at this point, and should Huckabee not run, are very much on her side. Even Andrew Sullivan in a moment of lucidity when the PDS uterus fog lifted, said this week that he thinks the “nomination is still hers to lose” even given the media attacks and supposed general low poll rating.




More reasons why the polls are wrong:

42.5% and 58% of the Samples for the Washington Post and NBC News GOP Primary Polls Are Composed of Independents, Respectively
Posted on January 20 2011 - 4:09 PM - Posted by: Ian Lazarus

The reality is that Republicans will likely comprise around 70-75% of the Republican primary electorate in every GOP primary state on average, with certain exceptions for states like New Hampshire. Nevertheless, the Washington Post and NBC News are putting out GOP primary polling that dramatically overestimates the percentage of independents that will vote in GOP primaries.
The Washington Post�s GOP primary poll is composed of all Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. NBC�s GOP primary poll is composed of not only all Republicans and Republican-leaning independents but all strict independents. Strict independents are independents that do not lean towards either the Republican or Democrat Party. Very rarely will these type of independents vote in either party�s primary. The types of independents that will vote in a GOP primary are independents that lean towards the Republican Party but it�s still a stretch to believe that GOP-leaning independents will comprise as large a percentage of the GOP primary electorate as the percentage claimed by the Washington Post and NBC News.

The Washington Post doesn�t tell you that Republican-leaning independents compose 42.5% of its GOP primary sample. NBC News doesn�t tell you that Republican-leaning independents and strict independents compose 58% of its GOP primary sample. Strict independents comprise 36% of its primary sample. The NBC News� pollster actually believes that a sample that shows independents outnumbering Republicans by 16% is representative of the actual Republican primary electorate.

It�s a fair assumption to believe that Governor Palin is performing better among Republicans than she is among Republican-leaning independents. It�s also reasonable to believe that Palin is performing better among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents than she is among strict independents.
I suspect her five-point deficit to Romney in the NBC News poll and the two-point deficit to Huckabee in the Washington Post poll would be smaller or gone completely had either pollster included fewer independents in their samples. Independents are only expected to comprise 33-35% of the GOP primary electorate even in New Hampshire.

To conclude, the Washington Post got it half-right by only polling for Republicans and Republican-independents but it still erred by including all Republican-leaning independents. NBC News didn�t get anything right as it included all strict independents, the type of independents that rarely vote in primaries, in addition to including all Republican-leaning independents in its sample. It�s simply unreasonable to believe that on average independents will comprise over 40% (or almost 60% in the case of NBC News) of the GOP primary electorate, let alone in states with a lot of independents like New Hampshire.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Originally Posted by Spanokopitas
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by BrentD
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Palin is Theodore Roosevelt in a size 6 suit, American flag pin, and some kick ass black leather boots.


Sadly, I know you are serious about that statement. The rest of us are laughing when we aren't crying. For damn sure, she ain't no Teddy Roosevelt.




You are right and Mike Metroulas was wrong, Sarah wears a size 4.
Those were his words not mine.

And you are right about Teddy, Palin is much more conservative and far less progressive that Teddy Roosevelt was.


Damn, Bow, this is getting scary.

You know her dress size and SHOE size? Do you know her bra size and what brand of TP she prefers? Does she wear red or blue panties? Any tats? Where? Body piercings? Where? Photos please.





As Sarah�s measurements are 35 and 1/4 - 30 and 1/2 - 40 and �, then her bra size would be 36C.
I did not mention her shoe size, but it is 7.5.
I have never noticed any tattoos or piercing.

This is important stuff.

Just now on FOX, Megyn Kelly and Ichabod Colmes were discussing Michelle Obama�s dresses. They are reportedly, size 8.

However, I checked with my staff and was informed that Palin is closer to a size 6 than she is a 4 and no way would Michele fit into anything smaller than a 12.
Posted By: RobJordan Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by RobJordan
"Ignorant" and "not very bright" are not synonyms. My conservative bonafides (which are considerable---but out of modesty shall remain private) are completely irrelevant to the merits of my criticisms of Palin.

Hijack attempt thwarted with logic.



That reminds me.
Some unfinished business…

Way back, last February, RobJordan posted this:
“All of the liberal critics of Palin are people I cannot stand. They are card carrying leftists utterly hostile to conservatism. But that is irrelevant to the factual questions surrounding Palin's competence. Whether or not Charlie Gibson is a liberal is utterly irrelevant on the question whether Sarah Palin did or did not know what the Bush doctrine was, or whether Africa was a continent and not a nation.
I did a little survey in my house this evening (granted, its not scientific): I asked my very conservative wife (pro-life, church-going, devoted mother), my very conservative son (reads everything conservative, just finished reading "Witness" by Whittaker Cambers, an intelligent critic of evolution etc.) and my very, very conservative 26 year old teacher daughter. I asked them all (ignoring what they know of my opinions on the matter) what they thought of Sarah Palin. The word they all used to describe her: "idiot". It was universal.”

And I posted:
“I would like to ask you and your family two reasonable follow up survey questions. How could an “idiot” accomplish as much as Sarah Palin has in her young life. The second is an essay question and based on the Dewie Whetsell challenge that I posted a few clicks back. Name someone else who has done better. This might be more constructive than flippin’ someone off as an “idiot”.

I hope your family did ignore your opinions and your “facts”.
Fact is that Charles Krauthammer has said that there are four Bush Doctrines and Sarah Palin answered with the correct one.
Fact is that the “Africa is a Nation” fable has been completely discredited.
Some who should know, say that there is several hours of good stuff in the Katie Couric interview locked away in the NBC vault.
I do know for a fact that Palin has done very well in her speeches, debates, and her other interviews. And those interviews are available in unedited transcripts.
My favorite is the one she did in her kitchen with Greta Van Susteren.”

I am still waiting for the results of my “follow up survey questions.”
Now that Palin has continued to do so well and her 2010 1040 is so much better then yours or mine…


It is amazing the nonsense some people will gobble up---including that when Palin answered Charlie Gibson on the Bush Doctrine she was actually displaying a nuanced understanding of it that would challenge the most sophiticated acolyte of US foreign policy. Pure bunk, because if that were the case she would have immediately defended her gaffe on that basis (i.e., there are four distinct and highly nuanced strands of the Bush doctrine and I was trying to clarify which one Gibson was asking about). She did no such thing on the show or thereafter when the critics started in on her ignorance. The notion that she actually had a knowledge of the Bush Doctrine that would practically challenge a political science professor is laughable. We also find massive confirmation of her lack of knowledge re how the world really works from insiders of the McCain campaign. Debate handlers and persons brought into "prep" her were universally dismayed at her appalling ignorance.

Of course its not Sarah's fault that McCain's supposedly fine judgment eluded him when it came time to choose a running mate, but that is no reason to bury our heads in the sand and think she is capable of governing this country when she couldn't even govern her own state (she quit mid-term, mind you because basically it was too hard---she couldn't stand the heat so she vacated the kitchen).
Posted By: NeBassman Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
As Sarah�s measurements are 35 and 1/4 - 30 and 1/2 - 40 and �, then her bra size would be 36C.
I did not mention her shoe size, but it is 7.5.
I have never noticed any tattoos or piercing.

This is important stuff.

Just now on FOX, Megyn Kelly and Ichabod Colmes were discussing Michelle Obama�s dresses. They are reportedly, size 8.

However, I checked with my staff and was informed that Palin is closer to a size 6 than she is a 4 and no way would Michele fit into anything smaller than a 12.


Important stuff indeed! laugh

On a more serious note, I would more interested to learn if she has released college transcripts and how well she did in school, looks aren't everything. wink
Posted By: ColsPaul Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
stick a fork in her
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/21/11
�In an interview on CNN�s �Piers Morgan Tonight,� Giuliani, who dropped out of the 2008 Republican presidential primary, said running against Palin for the 2012 GOP nomination would show him as a moderate Republican.

�The more Republicans in which I can show a contrast, probably the better chance, the better chance that I have,� Giuliani told CNN�s Piers Morgan in an interview set to air at 9 pm. ET Monday. Portions of the interview will air Friday (tonight) on CNN�s �John King, USA� at 7 p.m. ET.

But if he does run, Giuliani says he would concentrate on winning Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, sites of the first presidential nominating contests. In 2008 Giuliani focused his resources in Florida, a strategy that that led to the demise of his run after he finished third in the state�s primary.�

�Mike Huckabee and his top advisers insist that he's thinking seriously about running for president, but he's doing little to put together the sort of organization needed to mount a campaign. The latest evidence: Chip Saltsman, his campaign manager in 2008 and one of his closest confidantes, has accepted a job as Chief of Staff for freshman Rep. Chuck Fleischmann (R-Tenn.).

In an interview, Saltsman said his taking the job should not be read as an indication about Huckabee's intentions.�



Math problem.
Lets see now, if Huck stays out and you add his poll numbers of about 20% to Palin�s of about 20% because the polls always show that one of them is always the second choice to the other if the person being polled goes for either Huck or Palin.

And if Rudy gets in and you subtract his numbers from Romney�s�

The question is; how short will the GOP primary be?

Originally Posted by RobJordan
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by RobJordan
"Ignorant" and "not very bright" are not synonyms. My conservative bonafides (which are considerable---but out of modesty shall remain private) are completely irrelevant to the merits of my criticisms of Palin.

Hijack attempt thwarted with logic.



That reminds me.
Some unfinished business…

Way back, last February, RobJordan posted this:
“All of the liberal critics of Palin are people I cannot stand. They are card carrying leftists utterly hostile to conservatism. But that is irrelevant to the factual questions surrounding Palin's competence. Whether or not Charlie Gibson is a liberal is utterly irrelevant on the question whether Sarah Palin did or did not know what the Bush doctrine was, or whether Africa was a continent and not a nation.
I did a little survey in my house this evening (granted, its not scientific): I asked my very conservative wife (pro-life, church-going, devoted mother), my very conservative son (reads everything conservative, just finished reading "Witness" by Whittaker Cambers, an intelligent critic of evolution etc.) and my very, very conservative 26 year old teacher daughter. I asked them all (ignoring what they know of my opinions on the matter) what they thought of Sarah Palin. The word they all used to describe her: "idiot". It was universal.”

And I posted:
“I would like to ask you and your family two reasonable follow up survey questions. How could an “idiot” accomplish as much as Sarah Palin has in her young life. The second is an essay question and based on the Dewie Whetsell challenge that I posted a few clicks back. Name someone else who has done better. This might be more constructive than flippin’ someone off as an “idiot”.

I hope your family did ignore your opinions and your “facts”.
Fact is that Charles Krauthammer has said that there are four Bush Doctrines and Sarah Palin answered with the correct one.
Fact is that the “Africa is a Nation” fable has been completely discredited.
Some who should know, say that there is several hours of good stuff in the Katie Couric interview locked away in the NBC vault.
I do know for a fact that Palin has done very well in her speeches, debates, and her other interviews. And those interviews are available in unedited transcripts.
My favorite is the one she did in her kitchen with Greta Van Susteren.”

I am still waiting for the results of my “follow up survey questions.”
Now that Palin has continued to do so well and her 2010 1040 is so much better then yours or mine…


It is amazing the nonsense some people will gobble up---including that when Palin answered Charlie Gibson on the Bush Doctrine she was actually displaying a nuanced understanding of it that would challenge the most sophiticated acolyte of US foreign policy. Pure bunk, because if that were the case she would have immediately defended her gaffe on that basis (i.e., there are four distinct and highly nuanced strands of the Bush doctrine and I was trying to clarify which one Gibson was asking about). She did no such thing on the show or thereafter when the critics started in on her ignorance. The notion that she actually had a knowledge of the Bush Doctrine that would practically challenge a political science professor is laughable. We also find massive confirmation of her lack of knowledge re how the world really works from insiders of the McCain campaign. Debate handlers and persons brought into "prep" her were universally dismayed at her appalling ignorance.

Of course its not Sarah's fault that McCain's supposedly fine judgment eluded him when it came time to choose a running mate, but that is no reason to bury our heads in the sand and think she is capable of governing this country when she couldn't even govern her own state (she quit mid-term, mind you because basically it was too hard---she couldn't stand the heat so she vacated the kitchen).


a brilliant and erudite analysis.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/22/11
I repeat:
Fact is that Charles Krauthammer has said that there are four Bush Doctrines and Sarah Palin answered with the correct one.
You calling Krauthammer�s analysis �nonsense� is laughable.
And by the way, Palin has defended (several times) her answer to Gibson�s condescending questions including that particular one.
So you are wrong again. Check the record and prove me wrong.

Quoting the McCain Staff Stupids who are trying to cover up their own screw ups is a long ways from �massive confirmation.�
The 37 million people that tuned in her record VP speech and the way Sarah did as well in her VP debate after McCain wisely pulled her out of that zoo his staff had her in would more �massive.�
So you are wrong again. Check the record and prove me wrong.

McCain choose Sarah Palin for his running mate because of her record as a reformer in Alaska and that has been verified on so many different levels that to deny her success in governing Alaska is what is truly laughable.
As has been her sensible and valid reasons for resigning as Governor. And posted many times here on the �Fire.
So you are wrong again. Check the record and prove me wrong.

Your analysis is illogical and unsupported by any real world facts.
Anyone looking at the Palin record with honest eyes would agree with McCain��not you.
Check the record and prove me wrong.

And you still have no answer my question to why Sarah is so successful if she is as bad as you say.
As you won�t answer the core question, I have new questions:

Did you ever get straighten out about the �I can see Alaska from my house� Palin quote that she never said, that you said she said, and did you ever see any of the pictures of Alaskans standing in Alaska looking at Russia?

Are you still calling folks who live in trailers: �Trash�????




Posted By: pak Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/22/11
Palin in a bikini? Lets see mid 40s and 5 kids, this place needs another sniper thread.
pak
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
At least Obama would have had 4 years of OJT to fall back on.

JEff

OK. You're a Democrat defending your vote 2 years ago.

Thanks for clearing up that.
Posted By: rem141r Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/22/11
you want 4 more years of obama? vote for palin. she needs to go far, far away.
Another "D".
I didn't want the first four arduous years of Barry, but some of you fellers seem OK with it.
Originally Posted by rem141r
you want 4 more years of obama? vote for palin. she needs to go far, far away.


Is this what's known as "reverse campaigning?"

Problem is the Republicans will not have the "no experience" spear to chuck at the Halfblack. Now he is the experienced and popular President who will not be running against any past President.

That is why it is deadly serious to send up a man who maybe able to beat him, not some far right wackjob or giddygal who would lose in a tsunamic landslide. To do so would be to set back this recent, yet still nascent, rise of Conservatism to pre Reagan times.

Posted By: ihookem Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/22/11
You know guys, she has not even said she is going to run. She is most likely smart enough to not. She knows where she can be the biggest thorn in the side of the liberals. Not in the white house. Weather any want to admit it she had a ton of pull this last election and who did more than her? Dis her all you want, she is smart, a very good speaker, down to earth, and is more of an American than any liberal in the house, senate and most certainly the oval office. Lets not cut the throat of our own soldiers. We need all we can get and still might loose this nation the way it was supposed to be. Honestly, I like her kind. She's spunky, but simple, quick with an answer, to the point ( and they cut deep) , a gun owner, pro life, and honestly she is very easy to look at.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/22/11
Originally Posted by rem141r
you want 4 more years of obama? vote for palin. she needs to go far, far away.




The best chance to reelect Obama is to run Romney or some other RINO retread that loses the Tea Party vote.
I'm not at all sure Romney would lose the TP vote.

I am still predicting him as the GOP nominee.
Posted By: PMC Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/22/11
I won't vote Romney, but I will vote Palin.

Pmc
Posted By: ihookem Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/22/11
I can't get used to Romney. He had state health care like Obama, I also can't get used to a guy who thinks satan and Jesus were brothers. If he can't see through that, then his b.s. detector is lacking.
Originally Posted by ihookem
I can't get used to Romney. He had state health care like Obama, I also can't get used to a guy who thinks satan and Jesus were brothers. If he can't see through that, then his b.s. detector is lacking.


How do you know that Romney thinks Satan and Jesus were brothers? How do you know what anyone "thinks"? Not that it would make any difference. Just curious.
Posted By: Bumblebee Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/22/11
She is finished---nice looking lady who is a great mom but she is a quitter. Will never get the nod from the GOP too may issues like the current one with Todd and the Hooker....

Romney may be the best choice but Sara has had her 15 minutes.
Palin is just not presidential material. I like what she is doing politically, but she is nowhere near presidential material. Quitting as governor of AK is but one of the indicators she can't handle the heat. She WILL NEVER be president.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/22/11
Calling Sarah Palin a �Quitter� has been debunked and discredited so many times here on the �Fire by so many, that I am going to �Quit� posting all the valid and smart reasons Sarah did what she did for her family and the State of Alaska.

If you were the Governor of your State and frivolous lawsuits had you and your staff completely bogged down unable to do the State's work.

If those lawsuits were costing you and your family about a $1000 dollars a day.

Would you not something to changed that rigged game?

AND nobody has had to handle the HEAT that Palin has handled so well in her career.
Posted By: Squidge Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
and yet the perception lingers......

...and yet the perception persists because perception in politics is reality.
Posted By: rrroae Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
I'd wager a bet that the majority here that support Palin are the same ones who drool all over Houndgirl like little lost boys who need a good spankin'.


I remember how excited I was when McCain picked Palin as his VP after hearing so many here talk her up. Then I heard her talk. Haven't heard so much incoherent rambling since the days of the California valley girls. I mean sure, I'd nail her,... but Good Lord there would be no talkin' afterwards.


If she's the bright shining star of the Right and what many conservatives are counting on to turn our country around, then we're truly [bleep]. Trading a dimwit community organizer for some grown up teeny bopper that every man over 50 wants to screw ain't gonna cut it.
Posted By: nemesis Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
Originally Posted by rrroae
I'd wager a bet that the majority here that support Palin are the same ones who drool all over Houndgirl like little lost boys who need a good spankin'.

I remember how excited I was when McCain picked Palin as his VP after hearing so many here talk her up. Then I heard her talk. Haven't heard so much incoherent rambling since the days of the California valley girls. I mean sure, I'd nail her,... but Good Lord there would be no talkin' afterwards.

If she's the bright shining star of the Right and what many conservatives are counting on to turn our country around, then we're truly [bleep]. Trading a dimwit community organizer for some grown up teeny bopper that every man over 50 wants to screw ain't gonna cut it.


You are without a doubt the dumbest [bleep] on this forum..........

But you don't give a schit about that, because dumbphucks don't know enough to give a schit about anything!!
Posted By: rkamp Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11

"I pay heed to the counsel of a true rancher more so than from someone who raises dogs in a rabbit pen."



Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
Originally Posted by Squidge
and yet the perception lingers......





So what can you do with misperception except fight it with the truth.

Some battles you cannot win because: YOU CAN�T FIX STUPID!

Sarah is smarter than some of us.

Give your reasons why and move on.
Posted By: rrroae Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
Originally Posted by nemesis


You are without a doubt the dumbest [bleep] on this forum..........

But you don't give a schit about that, because dumbphucks don't know enough to give a schit about anything!!



lol

I don't Nem. Coming from the fella who illegally poaches deer on other people's private property and uses some BS Robin Hood analogy to justify it certainly has you in the running.
Posted By: rrroae Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
....of course coming onto a hunting forum and telling everybody you're a poacher and how you get away with it probably makes you a rocket scientist in your mind.
Posted By: chas05 Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
who prezactly is the "Tea Party"?
Posted By: rrroae Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
Originally Posted by nemesis


You are without a doubt the dumbest [bleep] on this forum..........

But you don't give a schit about that, because dumbphucks don't know enough to give a schit about anything!!




lolol

You really are priceless.

Originally Posted by nemesis
Most of the towns around me have passed ordinances that prohibit hunting on private land without the owner's written permission.

Since many of the landowners will simply not grant permission to hunt on their property for various reasons (i.e. they are anti-hunting, they have accident liability concerns, selfishness etc.), I have developed what I call the "Robin Hood Approach."

I just take my bow and hunt their property anyhow!


In some cases (if the property is big enough) I hang a relatively cheap tree stand that I'm willing to sacrifice if necessary, but most of the time (after I have identified a high deer traffic location), I simply sneak onto the property before daylight, set up a natural ground blind and ambush them if I can.

I only take high kill probability shots (25 yards or less) where I can be assured of a quick recovery and most of the time I remove the deer from the property before gutting it.

Since a first time offense for trespassing here is a verbal warning and a $100 fine thereafter, the financial risk associated with using the Robin Hood Approach is minimal.

BTW...........I never hunt a piece of property that the landowner hunts himself nor will I ever encroach on another hunter's stand location under any circumstances.

I only select properties that normally go unused for months at a time and where the landowner has absolutely no idea I'm even out there.

What's that expression again...."no harm, no foul"?

I thing it applies very well here.......but as always............. YMMV.


https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._Property_line_hunting_etiqu#Post4594441
Posted By: 700LH Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
I don't know if Palin is done or not, but she sure has been cookin the last couple of years.
Originally Posted by rrroae
Originally Posted by nemesis


You are without a doubt the dumbest [bleep] on this forum..........

But you don't give a schit about that, because dumbphucks don't know enough to give a schit about anything!!




lolol

You really are priceless.

Originally Posted by nemesis
Most of the towns around me have passed ordinances that prohibit hunting on private land without the owner's written permission.

Since many of the landowners will simply not grant permission to hunt on their property for various reasons (i.e. they are anti-hunting, they have accident liability concerns, selfishness etc.), I have developed what I call the "Robin Hood Approach."

I just take my bow and hunt their property anyhow!


In some cases (if the property is big enough) I hang a relatively cheap tree stand that I'm willing to sacrifice if necessary, but most of the time (after I have identified a high deer traffic location), I simply sneak onto the property before daylight, set up a natural ground blind and ambush them if I can.

I only take high kill probability shots (25 yards or less) where I can be assured of a quick recovery and most of the time I remove the deer from the property before gutting it.

Since a first time offense for trespassing here is a verbal warning and a $100 fine thereafter, the financial risk associated with using the Robin Hood Approach is minimal.

BTW...........I never hunt a piece of property that the landowner hunts himself nor will I ever encroach on another hunter's stand location under any circumstances.

I only select properties that normally go unused for months at a time and where the landowner has absolutely no idea I'm even out there.

What's that expression again...."no harm, no foul"?

I thing it applies very well here.......but as always............. YMMV.


https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._Property_line_hunting_etiqu#Post4594441


Holy [bleep] I never saw that.. What an ass!

rrroae---Stand by for the middle finger salute from our resident retard.

There can be no civilized debate with anyone whose main point is made with profanity, obscenity, and invective. Such response is a strong indication of a lack of education most likely occasioned by a lack of intelligence.

Most who exhibit this behavior are of very low economic and social status and seek the attention of their betters by yelling naughty words.

Like a two year old, they are best ignored or spanked and sent to their room.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
Originally Posted by rrroae
I'd wager a bet that the majority here that support Palin are the same ones who drool all over Houndgirl like little lost boys who need a good spankin'.


I remember how excited I was when McCain picked Palin as his VP after hearing so many here talk her up. Then I heard her talk. Haven't heard so much incoherent rambling since the days of the California valley girls. I mean sure, I'd nail her,... but Good Lord there would be no talkin' afterwards.


If she's the bright shining star of the Right and what many conservatives are counting on to turn our country around, then we're truly [bleep]. Trading a dimwit community organizer for some grown up teeny bopper that every man over 50 wants to screw ain't gonna cut it.





Another prime example of misperception.

According to the websites; incoherent, rambling Palin just signed a new contract with FOX.
So who is right? FOX or rrroae?
I ask how does she stay on FOX?
What does FOX know?

Whenever someone says Sarah can�t give a good speech or even talk well.
I just point to the size of all the crowds at all the speeches for the last two plus years.

After all that time, why does Sarah still get invited later this month to speak at both the Safari Club International and three days later at the Weatherby Awards?
Why would those old guys want to listen to some �grown up teeny bopper� that they can�t screw, when they are in Reno where there is plenty of screwing around to be done?

So I ask.
Never get a good answer, never get any answer.

Sarah is right.
Give your reasons why and move on.

You really can�t fix stupid.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
Sarah Palin will do a one-hour onstage unscripted interview in front of a crowd of 1,000 at the Long Island Association on February 17 at the Crest Hollow Country Club in Woodbury, New York.

Sarah is right.
Give your reasons why and move on.

Originally Posted by Spanokopitas
I'm not at all sure Romney would lose the TP vote.

I am still predicting him as the GOP nominee.


Your hero moderate Romeny getting ready to give all you moderates your Obamacare fingerwave. Owwwww is that a hang nail?

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http://www.chronicleonline.com/content/sarah-palin%E2%80%88-better-candidate-most-think
Posted By: antlers Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
Originally Posted by nemesis
Most of the towns around me have passed ordinances that prohibit hunting on private land without the owner's written permission.

Since many of the landowners will simply not grant permission to hunt on their property for various reasons (i.e. they are anti-hunting, they have accident liability concerns, selfishness etc.), I have developed what I call the "Robin Hood Approach."

I just take my bow and hunt their property anyhow!


In some cases (if the property is big enough) I hang a relatively cheap tree stand that I'm willing to sacrifice if necessary, but most of the time (after I have identified a high deer traffic location), I simply sneak onto the property before daylight, set up a natural ground blind and ambush them if I can.

I only take high kill probability shots (25 yards or less) where I can be assured of a quick recovery and most of the time I remove the deer from the property before gutting it.

Since a first time offense for trespassing here is a verbal warning and a $100 fine thereafter, the financial risk associated with using the Robin Hood Approach is minimal.

BTW...........I never hunt a piece of property that the landowner hunts himself nor will I ever encroach on another hunter's stand location under any circumstances.

I only select properties that normally go unused for months at a time and where the landowner has absolutely no idea I'm even out there.

What's that expression again...."no harm, no foul"?

I thing it applies very well here.......but as always............. YMMV.


https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._Property_line_hunting_etiqu#Post4594441 [/quote]

Wow.
Posted By: nemesis Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
Originally Posted by rkamp

"I pay heed to the counsel of a true rancher more so than from someone who raises dogs in a rabbit pen."


That's because you are a dumbphuck just like he is!

Off the ground kennels are the most common way that professional beaglers house their dogs.

As you can see in the following pix, they are a clean, efficient, desease free and comfortable way to keep your hunting beagle ............and the dogs love em'!

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Posted By: pod Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
i have 200 acres behind the house all prime deer land i used to let hunters in but got tired of beer cans, candy rappers and azzholes tearing up the hay fields with their 4 wheelers. not to mention people like numbnuts sneaking in the back door. by the way i hunt almost every day from sept-dec. and hopefully taught my sons, daughters and grandchildren better. i hunt with them all the time. [they are among us]

Palin supporters are as rabid and committed as Paul supporters once were. I suspect many are the same. Hopefully their efforts will end up having the same result.

The bottom line is: Nominate Palin and the result will be a tsunamic landslide victory for BHO. A victory that will set Conservatism back decades.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by rrroae
I'd wager a bet that the majority here that support Palin are the same ones who drool all over Houndgirl like little lost boys who need a good spankin'.


I remember how excited I was when McCain picked Palin as his VP after hearing so many here talk her up. Then I heard her talk. Haven't heard so much incoherent rambling since the days of the California valley girls. I mean sure, I'd nail her,... but Good Lord there would be no talkin' afterwards.


If she's the bright shining star of the Right and what many conservatives are counting on to turn our country around, then we're truly [bleep]. Trading a dimwit community organizer for some grown up teeny bopper that every man over 50 wants to screw ain't gonna cut it.





Another prime example of misperception.

According to the websites; incoherent, rambling Palin just signed a new contract with FOX.
So who is right? FOX or rrroae?
I ask how does she stay on FOX?
What does FOX know?

Whenever someone says Sarah can�t give a good speech or even talk well.
I just point to the size of all the crowds at all the speeches for the last two plus years.

After all that time, why does Sarah still get invited later this month to speak at both the Safari Club International and three days later at the Weatherby Awards?
Why would those old guys want to listen to some �grown up teeny bopper� that they can�t screw, when they are in Reno where there is plenty of screwing around to be done?

So I ask.
Never get a good answer, never get any answer.

Sarah is right.
Give your reasons why and move on.

You really can�t fix stupid.


She gets those gigs for the same reason any other entertainer gets gigs; because they make money for the promoters.

Appearing before adoring crowds and submitting to gushy interviews by slobbering syncophants means nothing. Has she ever been interviewed by anyone who is not completely enthralled by her childish ebullience (other than during the campaign)?
Posted By: Bumblebee Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
Originally Posted by nemesis
Originally Posted by rrroae
I'd wager a bet that the majority here that support Palin are the same ones who drool all over Houndgirl like little lost boys who need a good spankin'.

I remember how excited I was when McCain picked Palin as his VP after hearing so many here talk her up. Then I heard her talk. Haven't heard so much incoherent rambling since the days of the California valley girls. I mean sure, I'd nail her,... but Good Lord there would be no talkin' afterwards.

If she's the bright shining star of the Right and what many conservatives are counting on to turn our country around, then we're truly [bleep]. Trading a dimwit community organizer for some grown up teeny bopper that every man over 50 wants to screw ain't gonna cut it.


You are without a doubt the dumbest [bleep] on this forum..........

But you don't give a schit about that, because dumbphucks don't know enough to give a schit about anything!!



You sir are a POACHER----the lowest of all Swine Bred Period End of Discussion. I am sure Sara will look at you in complete disdain and gladly put you in jail. Something to think about..
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Calling Sarah Palin a �Quitter� has been debunked and discredited so many times here on the �Fire by so many, that I am going to �Quit� posting all the valid and smart reasons Sarah did what she did for her family and the State of Alaska.

If you were the Governor of your State and frivolous lawsuits had you and your staff completely bogged down unable to do the State's work.

If those lawsuits were costing you and your family about a $1000 dollars a day.

Would you not something to changed that rigged game?

AND nobody has had to handle the HEAT that Palin has handled so well in her career.


Palin made choices that put her in a position where she felt the heat that drove her to quit. She made some bad decisions. If she had been completely above board and not done anything that bears any semblance of impropriety, she wouldn't have felt the heat.
Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
Originally Posted by Spanokopitas
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by rrroae
I'd wager a bet that the majority here that support Palin are the same ones who drool all over Houndgirl like little lost boys who need a good spankin'.


I remember how excited I was when McCain picked Palin as his VP after hearing so many here talk her up. Then I heard her talk. Haven't heard so much incoherent rambling since the days of the California valley girls. I mean sure, I'd nail her,... but Good Lord there would be no talkin' afterwards.


If she's the bright shining star of the Right and what many conservatives are counting on to turn our country around, then we're truly [bleep]. Trading a dimwit community organizer for some grown up teeny bopper that every man over 50 wants to screw ain't gonna cut it.





Another prime example of misperception.

According to the websites; incoherent, rambling Palin just signed a new contract with FOX.
So who is right? FOX or rrroae?
I ask how does she stay on FOX?
What does FOX know?

Whenever someone says Sarah can’t give a good speech or even talk well.
I just point to the size of all the crowds at all the speeches for the last two plus years.

After all that time, why does Sarah still get invited later this month to speak at both the Safari Club International and three days later at the Weatherby Awards?
Why would those old guys want to listen to some “grown up teeny bopper” that they can’t screw, when they are in Reno where there is plenty of screwing around to be done?

So I ask.
Never get a good answer, never get any answer.

Sarah is right.
Give your reasons why and move on.

You really can’t fix stupid.


She gets those gigs for the same reason any other entertainer gets gigs; because they make money for the promoters.

Appearing before adoring crowds and submitting to gushy interviews by slobbering syncophants means nothing. Has she ever been interviewed by anyone who is not completely enthralled by her childish ebullience (other than during the campaign)?





All those 2010 campaign speeches were about money, not votes?
Chris Wallace and Bill O�Reilly are slobbering sycophants doing gushy interviews?
Add Greta to the mix, I have heard all three ask Palin the same questions that they ask others. They all have a reputation of asking tough questions.


As a private citizen, there was no need for Sarah to play in anymore LSM rigged interviews. Why should she?

Now as she moves out on her own campaign, she will move away from just doing FOX stuff.

Sarah Palin will do a one-hour onstage unscripted, taking the questions of a crowd of 1,000 business leaders at the Long Island Association on February 17 at the Crest Hollow Country Club in Woodbury, New York.

Sarah is right.
State your position, give your reasons why, never Retreat.
Reload and move out.

So I ask and never get a good answer, never get any answer.
Your demeaning name calling reply doesn�t even come close.

Have you noticed; that as bad, as hot, as the Heat gets, the classy lady never calls anyone names? Such as those used against her here on Campfire?

And Editor, you misspelled �sycophants.�




Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Calling Sarah Palin a “Quitter” has been debunked and discredited so many times here on the ‘Fire by so many, that I am going to “Quit” posting all the valid and smart reasons Sarah did what she did for her family and the State of Alaska.

If you were the Governor of your State and frivolous lawsuits had you and your staff completely bogged down unable to do the State's work.

If those lawsuits were costing you and your family about a $1000 dollars a day.

Would you not something to changed that rigged game?

AND nobody has had to handle the HEAT that Palin has handled so well in her career.


Palin made choices that put her in a position where she felt the heat that drove her to quit. She made some bad decisions. If she had been completely above board and not done anything that bears any semblance of impropriety, she wouldn't have felt the heat.




Good Grief!
Posted By: rem141r Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/23/11
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by nemesis
Most of the towns around me have passed ordinances that prohibit hunting on private land without the owner's written permission.

Since many of the landowners will simply not grant permission to hunt on their property for various reasons (i.e. they are anti-hunting, they have accident liability concerns, selfishness etc.), I have developed what I call the "Robin Hood Approach."

I just take my bow and hunt their property anyhow!


In some cases (if the property is big enough) I hang a relatively cheap tree stand that I'm willing to sacrifice if necessary, but most of the time (after I have identified a high deer traffic location), I simply sneak onto the property before daylight, set up a natural ground blind and ambush them if I can.

I only take high kill probability shots (25 yards or less) where I can be assured of a quick recovery and most of the time I remove the deer from the property before gutting it.

Since a first time offense for trespassing here is a verbal warning and a $100 fine thereafter, the financial risk associated with using the Robin Hood Approach is minimal.

BTW...........I never hunt a piece of property that the landowner hunts himself nor will I ever encroach on another hunter's stand location under any circumstances.

I only select properties that normally go unused for months at a time and where the landowner has absolutely no idea I'm even out there.

What's that expression again...."no harm, no foul"?

I thing it applies very well here.......but as always............. YMMV.


https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._Property_line_hunting_etiqu#Post4594441


Wow. [/quote]

Double wow. its people like him that are the reason for all the posted property. getting a sense of accomplishment from taking a peice of game while breaking the law is incomprehensible to me. i would rather shoot a legal doe than a poached 12 point. nemesis, you should call yourself "sportmans nemesis" congratulations on being an idiot.

She will receive scripted questions from those "thousands". When has she stood to take hardball questions from the LSM?

Yes, Hanitty, O'Rielly, Van Sustern, etc. are all of her clack. If she is man enough she will get the real treatment that will be accorded any other candidate. I doubt she will survive round one.

Sorry about the misspelling, I am publisher, not an editor. But we have editors on staff.
Posted By: John_G Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/24/11
Originally Posted by kraky111
At some point in time Sara will have to step out of the world of tweets and facebook and canned Fox interviews. Some here may think she'll do well.....and she won't do as bad as the McCain days...but she WILL NOT COME ACCROSS AS PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.



+1
I'm as conservative as they come, and I root for the Rebublicans from the Canadian side of the border, but ... in regards to Sarah, there are many positions I'd like to see her in, but POTUS isn't one of them.

The fact that she is closeted with the Fox bunch and never shows her pretty face to any MSM interviewer certainly shows she is not dumb.

If she wants the nomination, at some point she will need to run with the Big Dogs. I think she fully realizes she is not up to that task but intends to run her little tease as long as she can and then quit in a snit as she did her last job.

Just my opinion.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/24/11
Originally Posted by nemesis
Originally Posted by rrroae
I'd wager a bet that the majority here that support Palin are the same ones who drool all over Houndgirl like little lost boys who need a good spankin'.

I remember how excited I was when McCain picked Palin as his VP after hearing so many here talk her up. Then I heard her talk. Haven't heard so much incoherent rambling since the days of the California valley girls. I mean sure, I'd nail her,... but Good Lord there would be no talkin' afterwards.

If she's the bright shining star of the Right and what many conservatives are counting on to turn our country around, then we're truly [bleep]. Trading a dimwit community organizer for some grown up teeny bopper that every man over 50 wants to screw ain't gonna cut it.


[b]You are without a doubt the dumbest [bleep] on this forum..........

But you don't give a schit about that, because dumbphucks don't know enough to give a schit about anything!![/
b]


You continue to remove all doubt. Consistent, if nothing else.
Posted By: BrentD Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/24/11
Quote
Who would you be more likely to support for the Republican presidential nomination?


Rudy Giuliani 85% 267,324
Sarah Palin 15% 46,976
Total votes: 314,300
This is not a scientific poll


Crash landing imminent.
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/24/11
I, too, think Rudy is a sleeper, regardless of past statements.
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Is Palin Done? They Wish - 01/24/11
I voted for McCain because I felt that he was the "less bad" choice. The only democratic POTUS candidates who I've voted for are Carter, because Ford pardoned Nixon, and Dukakis, because GHWB didn't stand by his allegation of "Voodoo Economics" and accepted the role of VP for 8 years.

I think that McCain picked Palin as a running mate because he was running against a minority candidate and he wanted/needed a minority candidate on his ticket. I think that most people recognized that "the people" were angry at GWB and the whole republican party, so McCain was a throw away candidate, just like Bob Dole.

I won't vote for Obama in 2012, but I won't vote for Sarah Palin if she wins the republican nomination, since I wouldn't consider either candidate truely worthy of being POTUS. I don't think that Palin will win the nomination of her party, but I didn't think that Obama would win the democratic nomination in 2008, so what do I know.

JEff

I could go with Rudy, I thought he should have taken it in 08.

But, then again some around here would not like his stance on guns.
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